Need upgrade for F.E.A.R.

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It's time for another computer upgrade. I was going to buy the game FEAR a while back, but I realized my computer is not good enough anymore.

What CPU + mobo combination would be recommended?

The requirements for FEAR are here

thanks.
 
budget is very important when buying something , so whats yours mate?
 
For both cpu & mobo I'm looking to spend no more than $500. I've been out of the swing of things for 3 years now and I hope that's enough to buy what I want.

Any budget models would be appreciated.
 
What do you plan to use for a VID card? Did you forget that? Here is what I would use:

1 MOtherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130050

2. CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103637

3. RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231050

4. Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143064

I belive this is under $500.00, but if not, it gets you a VERY moderized PC, and will be a great OCer if you desire.
 
go for conroe and a mobo like the gigabyte quad , i reckon it will just be enough.Or a conroe and a cheaper board.

But the conroe is a must and the rest is to get you through.
I would have told you socket f but that is to long. Also the ram get some cheap 667mhz , they will be cheap because of supply and demand. Also it will help you to get at least a couple hundred more of your CPU , i got a extra 1ghz on the presscott using normal ram

PS NewLs1 _ the links dont work
 
The video card is more important than the CPU I would think...not that the CPU is not important, but if you already have some form of A64 or high end P4/PD, than video card is what is holding you back.
 
Just get a 3200+ and a DFI lanparty board. that will give you plenty of $$ for a decend graphics card for gaming.
 
it would be best if you posted the specs of your comp...if its 3 years old its most likely agp and if you only upgrade the mobo and cpu to pci-e then your card wont work...unfortunately...so plz post your comp specs :)

hey nooh come on msn sometime man! :p
 
ChaoticLlama said:
For both cpu & mobo I'm looking to spend no more than $500. I've been out of the swing of things for 3 years now and I hope that's enough to buy what I want.

Any budget models would be appreciated.
If you've been out of the swing for the past 3 years, then you don't know much about intel's conroe (core 2 duo). It's released on July 27. No matter if you choose intel/amd, you'll be using DDR2 :D Here are a few benchmarks showing CPU power.

Your_Boss said:
I couldn't find a thread on this site yet, so here it is, wow!

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Just look at the FEAR benchmarks! :eek:

Here is the entire link, it's in French, but I Googled it for English. It's a good read. :)
http://translate.google.com/transla...ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&prev=/language_tools

Some pricing too.

Xeon 5160 3.00 GHz, FSB1333, 4 Mo L2, socket LGA771 - 851 US dollars
Xeon 5150 2.66 GHz, FSB1333, 4 Mo L2, socket LGA771 - 690 US dollars
Xeon 5140 2.33 GHz, FSB1333, 4 Mo L2, socket LGA771 - 455 US dollars
Xeon 5130 2.00 GHz, FSB1333, 4 Mo L2, socket LGA771 - 316 US dollars
Xeon 5120 1.86 GHz, FSB1066, 4 Mo L2, socket LGA771 - 256 US dollars
Xeon 5110 1.60 GHz, FSB1066, 4 Mo L2, socket LGA771 - 209 US dollars
Core 2 Duet X6800 2.93 GHz, FSB1066, 4 Mo L2, socket LGA775 - 999 US dollars
Core 2 Duet E6700 2.66 GHz, FSB1066, 4 Mo L2, socket LGA775 - 530 US dollars
Core 2 Duet E6600 2.40 GHz, FSB1066, 4 Mo L2, socket LGA775 - 316 US dollars
Core 2 Duet E6400 2.13 GHz, FSB1066, 2 Mo L2, socket LGA775 - 241 US dollars
Core 2 Duet E6300 1.86 GHz, FSB1066, 2 Mo L2, socket LGA775 - 209 US dollars
Core 2 Duet E4200 1.60 GHz, FSB800, 2 Mo L2, socket LGA775 - Price nonavailable
Core 2 Duet T7600 2.33 GHz, FSB667, 4 Mo L2, socket mPGA479 - 637 US dollars
Core 2 Duet T7400 2.16 GHz, FSB667, 4 Mo L2, socket mPGA479 - 423 US dollars
Core 2 Duet T7200 2.00 GHz, FSB667, 4 Mo L2, socket mPGA479 - 294 US dollars
Core 2 Duet T5600 1.83 GHz, FSB667, 2 Mo L2, socket mPGA479 - 241 US dollars
Core 2 Duet T5500 1.66 GHz, FSB667, 2 Mo L2, socket mPGA479 - 209 US dollars

Here are comparisons of games at higher resolutions.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=185555
 
kirbyrj said:
The video card is more important than the CPU I would think...not that the CPU is not important, but if you already have some form of A64 or high end P4/PD, than video card is what is holding you back.

Yeah totally. If you're on a PCI-Express platform, you can definitely extend the life of your sysetm -- I on the other hand, had AGP (And an FX-era card, heh)
 
The types of games i have learnt in the last week makes a great difference and this is where PPU will make a great difference in the future after all driver issues are sorted . FPS and RTS both work differently with the GPU and CPU , the RTS requires more calculation than the first person shooter.

I have seen reviews and it shows that when a driver is working how it should be working then it takes all the load from the CPU and the PPU does all the complicated maths and the cpu can go on to other things , so i think it will become a key thing in the future of gaming.

ATI and Nvidia are taking it seriously too.

The new games have a lot more calculations and possibities than before. Evereything inside the system has to be balanced .
 
If he's been out of it for 3+ years, his head probably asploded looking at those CPU charts. Dual core, 64 bit, AMD & Intel both being viable choices... it is quite a lot to take in.
 
The conroes benchmarks are everywhere you look , there is no running away from them. I may have found a buyer for my sons system which has a Pentium d930 and if that goes well then its ......CONROE. Yes , Yes . :D
 
Those charts are fine and dandy, but are not indicative of what you'll see in real gaming situations. At any decent resolution, you're going to be GPU bound.
For gaming, you really cannot tell the difference between a $150 cpu and a $400 cpu.

With DX10 so close though, I wouldn't spend a fortune on the current videocards either.
So get a cheap A64 w/ a good mb and overclock it, and a medium-end GPU, something like a 7600GT. Should be able to afford cpu/mb/memory/gpu for $500. And then if you want, plan on upgrading that video in 6-9 months with whatever is the best DX10 card.
And that should last you another 2-3 years.
 
thunderstruck! said:
If you've been out of the swing for the past 3 years, then you don't know much about intel's conroe (core 2 duo). It's released on July 27. No matter if you choose intel/amd, you'll be using DDR2 :D Here are a few benchmarks showing CPU power.



Here are comparisons of games at higher resolutions.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=185555
those benchmarks just dont make sense. in FEAR the Conroe gets 100% better peformance than Opteron at 1600x1200 where it should be gpu limited but only gets 14% better performance at 1024x768 where it should be cpu limited. then in the Source stress test the Conroe only gets 3% better fps than the overclocked Opteron. i thought the cpu made a big difference in Source games.



FEAR Stress Test:
1024x768, 4xAA 16xAF, all max:
Opteron 165 @ 3GHz: Min 60 | Avg 142 | Max 370
Conroe @ 3GHz: Min 78 | Avg 162 | Max 485


1600x1200, 4xAA 16xAF, all max:
Opteron 165 @ 3GHz: Min 25 | Avg 43 | Max 172
Conroe @ 3GHz: Min 53 | Avg 86 | Max 310


Source Stress Test:
1600x1200, 4xAA 16xAF, Everything Maximum
Opteron 165 @ 3GHz: 134.15fps
Conroe @ 3GHz: 138.41fps
 
Benchmarks at low resolutions are completely irrelevant, even if one does play at those resolutions. Even the shittiest CPU does 100FPS or more.
 
454Casull said:
Benchmarks at low resolutions are completely irrelevant, even if one does play at those resolutions. Even the shittiest CPU does 100FPS or more.
did you even read what i posted? those benchmarks show the conroe doing better at higher resolutions than lower ones. that makes no sense since a more powerful cpu should make a bigger difference at lower resolutions. i dont get it.
 
thunderstruck! said:
If you've been out of the swing for the past 3 years, then you don't know much about intel's conroe (core 2 duo). It's released on July 27. No matter if you choose intel/amd, you'll be using DDR2 :D Here are a few benchmarks showing CPU power.



Here are comparisons of games at higher resolutions.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=185555


How come all these people have their cpu`s "Conroes" before launch date
 
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