jlbenedict
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well darn... all this stuff going on.... i bit the bullet and did the ole 2-factor auth.. even though I rarely sell high priced items..
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ND40oz **Possible Compromised Account**
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anabioz
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I don't understand why this is not a hard requirement yet for BST.
scojer
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Enabling 2fa logs you out everywhere, and every 30 days.
I am still a super mod (but inactive) over at Anandtech forums. I did check to see if your acct was compromised (which right now it isn't) I would enable 2FA there as well.
Thanks, updated and MFA setup over there, different password than here to begin with but might as well just move everything over to my pw manager.
Can you reverse the charge on the CC or bank?
primetime
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It's not a bad headache using bitwarden or descent pw managers
Armenius
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He said he sent the money via Zelle. They say right on their website that you should not use it for high-risk purchases. It is primarily meant to send money quickly among friends and family.
Yea I fucked up.
Nope, 2 different managers said I am out of luck. funds cleared and gone.
Damn dude. Sorry
Thought it was Venmo, which I ~think~ has some protection.
LFaWolf
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No, Venmo and Cash App are both the same - no protection just like Zelle.Damn dude. Sorry
Westwood
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Isn't [H] full of computer dudes that can find anyone, anywhere? can't you find the guy and flood his inbox with goatse or something?
SPARTAN VI
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Just wanted to add that Venmo does actually offer a purchase protection program, which benefits buyers & sellers with some recourse/redress options, granted its a qualifying purchase made to a business profile. Source: https://venmo.com/legal/us-user-agreement/#venmo-purchase-program
With Zelle, I've seen some transactions reversed in cases where the sender/originator's actual online banking account was compromised. In this case of course, Dark12 wouldn't be able to pull that string because he himself intentionally submitted the payment, not a 3rd party who gained unauthorized access to his online banking account. Zelle does recommend that you contact them though. Even if they can't get your money back, they can at least rat out the scammer to their bank/credit union: https://www.zellepay.com/support/report-scam
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The Venmo and Zelle accounts he/she are using have completely different names associated with them. This I believe counts as wire fraud though and Dark12 may be able to open a case for it.
Colonel Sanders
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don't give up yet. i assume you paid through Zelle via a credit card, debit card, or bank account - work with whichever one it is and explain the situation. the squeaky wheel gets the grease, as they say.
Westwood
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This day and age, I'd be amazed if he even was able to get an actual human to the phone; nevermind one that understands what he's saying.
LFaWolf
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Good info! Unfortunately, in this case this is to an individual. I would recommend PayPal Goods and Services for this type of transaction.
I spent an hour bitching to 2 different managers at Chase this morning. They said since I initiated the transfer I am on the hook, but they'll investigate.
My old business ran a million dollars through chase business without a single complaint. You'd think they could eat this for customer service reasons.
Considering moving to a credit union. I know this was my fault, but still.
A good credit union would be far more willing to work with you.I spent an hour bitching to 2 different managers at Chase this morning. They said since I initiated the transfer I am on the hook, but they'll investigate.
My old business ran a million dollars through chase business without a single complaint. You'd think they could eat this for customer service reasons.
Considering moving to a credit union. I know this was my fault, but still.
If your using a bank like chase get over it. Its just buisness in their mind, no customer service involved besides the nice people on the phone to politely tell you no.
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Kinda wish people would spend 5 minutes protecting themselves.
I fully agree here. But part of the problem is that the sellers are the compromised ones. The buyers should be wary of Venmo, PP F&F, and Zelle.
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The buyer could have easily not lost his money with one quick phone call.
We have done a sitewide pw reset in the past, and it is a fucking shitshow that I in no way have the resources to manage.
So if you are not protecting yourself on trades with some simple acts of self protection, that is on you.
I take the blame. Owned up to my stupidity. Don't be like me, folks.
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Not directed at you. Directed at people that think resetting passwords for a million people is no big deal or turning on 2FA for over a million folks is easy to work through. Props on you for taking responsibility. A lot of folks are not like you.
Thanks. Can you feature my GoFundMe on the main page? /s of course
DeadlyAura
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Oh shit, I was watching this go down this morning. Thank God ND40oz figured it out, but I feel awful for Dark12... Damn, what a nightmare....
Zepher
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What was the scammer trying to sell?
T4rd
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Still better than I did. I lost $1100 to a compromised account here right before the "Be Careful" thread was posted because I had done business with the guy before so I had let my guard down despite other red flags.
GoldenTiger
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A 1080ti for $380. Too good to be true.
I would like to know how the account owner failed from a security perspective so it can be shared as a PSA. The scammer could have easily "sold" the card as well as other scam deals at more reasonable prices and buyers would not have been aware until even later.
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It links back to what I thought was a leak/hack of Heatwave credentials that I don't think was every admitted by heatware. The effected users had the same password at Heatware as other sites.
I may be wrong, but this is what I gathered over the last few months.
Either way, this is from people using the same password at multiple sites/services.
notarat
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Based on your sys specs in your sig what were buying the 1080 for? A new build? Just wondering...
do you mean PP F&F?
Yes, sorry. Will correct.
Gideon
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I am always surprised by how many are willing to pay for things through services that offer no protection. Way to many scammers and scum bags out there these days to just blindly trust someone you really don't know.