Ncore V1 No Frame Water Block Prototype Sneak Peek

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by Kyle_Bennett, Mar 5, 2018.

  1. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Do I look like a pusssy? (And I have couple extra CPUs sitting around as well, which gives me a bit bigger balls.) ;)
     
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  2. pendragon1

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    from certain angles maybe... :) what'd you coat it for?
     
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  3. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Metal TIM spillage....just in case.
     
  4. pendragon1

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    was my next guess. lookin forward to the results.
     
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  5. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Yanno, yer CPU is gonna sneak up on you in your sleep and slit your throat for doing this to it...
     
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  7. Big_Rig_Stig

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    Well... with that black fingernail polish on...
     
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    Wondering if the V2's mounting hold down will come different colors also or standard black/chrome?
     
  9. pcgeekesq

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    Very interested in this product.

    If it works, perhaps it will motivated Intel or AMD sell enthusiast CPUs with integrated water blocks.
     
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  10. Batboy88

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    Somebody needs to rig up something man...if you could have like a compressor co2 tank/canister tied to and in to the line some how lol, I don't know not the crazies trying to set records on Ln2 and probably killed boards doing it...
     
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  11. Big_Rig_Stig

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    Someone should create an ammonium-cooled rig...
     
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    Hard to the core. :blackalien:
     
  13. sirmonkey1985

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    personally i like the no mounting kit setup, looks cooler and way cleaner in the process.. all they'd really need to do is make the tabs that attach to the retention bracket slightly longer so there's less of a chance of it sliding out from the tabs on the bracket when you close it.
     
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  14. Batboy88

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    idk if that board is like that or not...like all the others not very great at undervolter and even then still hottt.
     
  15. Fixall

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    This block makes me wish the ASRock Taichi came in bronze/copper. The two would look SICK together. I'm not a huge fan of the tab system they're using to hold the block in place, but it seems like a more than fair trade off if it allows you to ditch the backplate.
     
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    Yeah he needs a Nickel version.
     
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    I guess you're probably waiting for the final version to do any serious testing, but does it do a decent job as is Kyle_Bennett?
     
  18. Nickbaldwin86

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    nickle would be great but honestly more important to just use liquid metal and crank up the GHZ!!!! I would love to test one of these blocks! my temps are already so low with my delidded chip (@ 5hz) that I would honestly be amazed if this block could get them lower, willing to find out though. ;)

    Cant wait to see the results!
     
  19. IKV1476

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    How is the testing coming on this?
    Am anxiously awaiting the results. This thing could be so cool, I really hope it works.
     
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  20. Kyle_Bennett

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    Just getting back to this in the coming weeks.
     
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    I wanna test it, I got a delid tool coming, but I still gotta wait some more now, gotta send another board back. wonder what he wants for it.
     
  22. NUDEcnc

    NUDEcnc NUDEcnc Inventor

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    Hi NUDEcnc here

    I want to thank you, Kyle, for posting a video about the Ncore.
    You took a risk of putting an unproven concept on your private CPU in the name of an innovation and this forum's amusement.

    Also I would like to thank the forum for the warm welcoming of the design and novelty idea behind this project. I hope the testing goes well and look forward to see independent results.
     
  23. Nenu

    Nenu PM Kyle for the TItle You Pick.

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    Do you have a ballpark on cost and time to market?
     
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  24. Nickbaldwin86

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    I would love to test this out on my delidded 8Gen CPU. it is running at 5Ghz and my temps never get above 60c, would love to see if this block can keep them even lower.
     
  25. NUDEcnc

    NUDEcnc NUDEcnc Inventor

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    The contact surface was machined but not polished. However, since then, I have revised the Ncore’s base design. This allowed me to improve the finish of the die contact surface. Final product will be grounded to achieve near to perfect flatness and surface finish.

    If the Kickstarter will be success I’m planning to verify compatibility with wider intel range sockets. It looks that older generations could work with this design too.

    Yes, there will be Ncore V1D version which has a delidding tool.
     
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  26. NUDEcnc

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    [​IMG]


    I used Soildworks simulation to verify design with very high margin. I could do life testing on dead motherboard to verify this in real life.


    [​IMG]

    For all of you who want to know the exact metal I use:

    C106 / CW024A is phosphorous de-oxidised non-arsenical copper that is 99.9% pure.

    Mechanical Property

    Value

    Proof Stress 50-340 MPa

    Tensile Strength 200-360 MPa

    Elongation A50 mm 50-5 %

    Hardness Vickers 40 to 110 HV
     
  27. NUDEcnc

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    In regards to small audience – I hope you will be wrong ;)

    1) There will be detailed video with step by step installation. After little practice I can argue that its easier than “standard” installation.

    I do believe that Ncore mounting mechanism is safer than “standard” as you do not have lose heavy bolts which you can drop on a motherboard and damage it.


    2) Will it blend or bend :smug:? Notches in prototype send to Kyle are thinner than intendent in final design. If Kyle’s prototype won’t bend I can assume that it won’t in finished Ncore V1.

    I’ve made extended computer simulation which confirmed that it should be not an issue

    3) It’s single colour LED diode. Lack of space and additional cost of RGB light forced me to go with single colour light.
     
  28. Nickbaldwin86

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    Would be a none issue for us that use rigid tubing ;)
     
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    I was curious if it was going to be for other sockets, because would be extremely interested on this with my upcoming I9 build. Do we have an ETA on the kickstarter ?
     
  30. Nickbaldwin86

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    Did I miss something? are they coming out with a block for the i9? this block fits 1151.
     
  31. craigdt

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    Cool. Can I use this with my CoolerMaster MasterLiquid? :p
     
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    NUDEcnc do you have an exact official start time for the Kickstarter? Also, when searching, what name should we input?


    Thanks!
     
  33. NUDEcnc

    NUDEcnc NUDEcnc Inventor

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    Hi Everyone!

    My Kickstarter campaign for The Ncore is in now live!

    Check it out at

    https://kck.st/2GHoE65

    I will very much appreciate your feedback and comment
     
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  34. Nenu

    Nenu PM Kyle for the TItle You Pick.

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    Backed.
    I like the built in delidder with the mounting bracket and the method of delidding.
    I would appreciate being able to get the instructions without the use of a phone.

    What OD tube does it take?
    Will there be a 1/2" OD option?
     
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  35. TTIEFoxDK

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    Great work on this innovative cncept...just backed!
     
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  36. NUDEcnc

    NUDEcnc NUDEcnc Inventor

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    Happy that you find the delidder interesting.

    I will be putting a video instruction manuals for the Ncore. I wanted to give people an option to just scan a QR code. But there will be links to manuals available soon.

    I used 12mm OD hard tubing and 13mm OD soft tubing. I do not think that it’s possible to fit bigger size than that.
     
  37. Nenu

    Nenu PM Kyle for the TItle You Pick.

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    Thanks, thats exactly the size I want, even better the flow rate is designed for it.
    1/2" = 12.7mm