NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by wahaha360, Sep 15, 2012.

  1. brahbruh

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    Hi all!

    Recently built a system in the Ncase and since it's right beside me, the stock intel CPU cooler is driving me insane.

    What are some quiet air coolers that you guys would recommend?

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  2. Virtu

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    What are some of the best CPU air coolers for a 4790k that I can replace my Corsair h100i with? I think I am just going to give up on trying to use the h100i as I cannot get great load temps. Which begs the question still, what are people getting temp-wise on a 4690k or 4790k using an air cooler under Prime95 load?
     
  3. Nobu

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    If you're willing to try again, I know I had issues installing an H80i on a Z97 ATX board because the capacitors near the socket were getting in the way. I managed to get a half-decent seat after orienting the block a certain way and pushing it away from the caps while I tightened the screws.

    Of course, your issue might be entirely different, but just in case.
     
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  5. Virtu

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    So... I was using the new Prime95 that looks to be eating Haswell processors alive (according to a lot of places online). I switched to the Prime95 26.6 version that everyone says to run and I am at a cool & crisp 55-60 degrees Celsius.
     
  6. Anagog

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    Does anyone know if the Dark Rock TF fits in? It is 130.8mm tall and the compatibility says 130mm.
     
  7. Necere

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    Here's a build with the Dark Rock TF. That's not the ideal orientation for the cooler - the heatpipes work less efficiently against gravity, and he mentions they contact the backplate - but it does fit. Orienting the heatpipes towards the front or rear would be better, but like the NH-C14 it might prevent the bottom fan from being used.
     
  8. Anagog

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    OK thanks. In your opinion what is the best air cooler that you can fit in the NCase? Seems to be a toss up between the Dark Rock TF and the NH-C14 with the TF looking nicer.
     
  9. Necere

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    Best is subjective, and depends on the rest of your setup, like what motherboard you want to use, where you have fans mounted, and whether you want to use the 3.5" HDD cage or not. Personally, I like a quiet system and don't care much what the CPU temperatures are as long as they're not too high, so the NH-U9S is probably what I'd go with. It stays within the CPU socket footprint, maximizing motherboard compatibility and making it easier to work around. If you just want the biggest, highest performance cooler, the NH-C14 or Dark Rock TF are the obvious choices.
     
  10. Anagog

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    Well I'm looking at having it as quiet as possible while managing a 4.4 Ghz OC'd 4690k. I have no drives in it as I'm using a M.2 SSD so I'm not that bothered about that. The H100 I ahve ATM is an OEM one that has no pump control at all. Would it be worth just getting a slightly more different AIO cooler?
     
  11. Necere

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    Yeah if you're going with an AIO I'd definitely recommend getting one with PWM pump control. Pumps can be quite loud at full speed, and running them at half or even a quarter speed doesn't have much of an effect on performance.
     
  12. davewolfs

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    Will the MSI 970 cards fit into this case? The Zotac Extreme Core Edition seems that it will. Not sure which one is quieter.
     
  13. csd

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    Has anyone got any results from using a bottom mount radiator vs sidemount?
     
  14. mrtea45

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    Long time follower of this thread, finally received my v4 the other week and felt like chipping in. Currently using this build until the skylake itx boards start releasing.

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
    CPU Cooler: Silverstone Tundra TD02-LITE
    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77I
    Memory: 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600
    Storage: Samsung 830 256GB 2.5" SSD + Western Digital Blue 500GB 2.5" HDD
    Video Card: EVGA GTX960 ACX2.0+ SSC - with backplate
    Power Supply: Silverstone 500W SFX-L
    Case Fan: 2 Corsair Air Series SP120 Quite PWM
    Monitor: 2x Dell U2414H

    CPU, Motherboard, RAM
    Simply reused from a old itx system running in a prodigy.

    Storage
    Again SSD reused, HDD spare and mounted in drive bay as a steam drive.

    EVGA GTX 960
    Not much to say, fits easily, silient and at about 40 when idle or under low load.Gets up to 70 under load and the fans can be heard. Will probably replace with a blower style card at some point.

    500W SFX-L
    Was expecting issues but fit in without to many problems, does slightly push the GPU down but nothing much more than the card would drop anyway. Main point to take away would be spending time bending the cables first and not being afraid of a bit of force when installing the GPU. Would fix easier without the back plate but I don't like the idea of cables pushing directly against the back of the card. As for the "chirping" noise its barely noticeable for me at least.

    Corsair Fans
    Really impressed with these, was going to reuse some old noctuas but though id give these a try for the looks, considering there only running 700rpm most of the time temps seem good and they are inaudible, highest ive had them under load was 900rpm and still no noise. Probably not the best for the volume of air they move but are silent.

    Silverstone Tundra TD02-LITE
    Only just released and read good reviews on performance, managed to pick one up new for £50 so thought id give it a try. Overall pretty impressed with the unit. Fans included are like jets so avoid! Considering the Corsair fans are running at the bottom end performance seems good, idles mid-low 30's and hits low 40's under load with the fans still running quite low. For the money cant really go wrong with the performance. Only down side is the pump noise, its the only audible part of the system and is a fairly distinctive buzzing although not annoying it is noticeable.
     
  15. RPGmod

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    Hey guys. I've just finished my Ncase M1 mod. Hope you like it!

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  16. QinX

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    Nice mod but that radiator is getting 0 air, how are stressed temps?
     
  17. WiSK

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    Nice Murderbox snake vent :)
     
  18. RPGmod

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    Its getting enough air to cool the delidded 4790k. At 100% load ity around 55-60 celsius. Room temp is 24 celsius.
     
  19. grazina

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    Hey guys.

    Bennmeaning to ask this. Those of you that have a GTX 980 Ti, whick model do you have?
    Benn looking at the palit jetstream since it the cheapest available right now and with two huge fans will produce great temps. Don't know if it will fit.
     
  20. cowsgomoo

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    At least the cable won't be the problem.
     
  21. grazina

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    I'm aactually thinking about the lenght and how it might interfere with the front panel on the M1. Width wyse we might be able to pull it off. But don't want to risk buying such a card and it not fitting.
     
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    According to the Specifications tab on the product's webpage, the dimensions are 133 mm x 280 mm, so it should be fine.
     
  24. Skhmt

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    Is it dangerous to put a regular HDD under a high TDP (980 ti) blower GPU? It seemed really hot.
     
  25. Phuncz

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    Pretty well done ! Too bad the phone's camera doesn't do it justice, the ISO noise and interpolated micro-sensor make it into a blurry mess that's no sharper than pictures half the resolution.

    You should resize them to about 800x600 or 1000x750, it will hide most of the ISO noise and overzealous interpolation.
     
  26. djskinnyb

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    Just to add to the list. I also received all of my parts except the plastic clips.
     
  27. RPGmod

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    Ok, thanks for the info, I will try that! Im planning to buy a dslr soon!
     
  28. Phuncz

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    You don't need a DSLR for shooting good photos, firstly you need good lighting (sun is free, lamps are cheap) and secondly a good camera. Something like a Sony RX100mk2 is already very capable of making good photos, no need to get a huge camera that one doesn't ever take along with them because it's too big.
     
  29. RPGmod

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    Ok, I'll look after it!
     
  30. Nobu

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    Cannon's PowerShot S110 is pretty good (though a bit old now) and shoots raw+jpeg (if you're into that) for about $150. Has manual focus, apeture, shutter speed, and iso (at once and individually) and a pretty good range of zoom. Grip's a bit small, though.
    If you want a good shot now, though, just drop the iso, decrease the shutter speed or open the aperture (if applicable), and get a good platform to place your camera/phone on before setting the timer, for a crisp, blur-free shot. ;)

    As long as the HDD doesn't block all of the vent below the blower's intake it should be fine--most of the heat is blown out the back of the case. The rest will radiate mostly upward, and should be blown out by any exhaust fans you have up there.
    Edit: Well, assuming we're talking about the same style cooler. Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...cm_re=980_ti_reference-_-14-487-068-_-Product
    Here's a review of a reference 980 Ti where they took some flir photos of the GPU from a few angles.
     
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  31. Skhmt

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    I dont have any exhaust fans, not enough space for any.
     
  32. caycep

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    Quick question - is anyone using the Samsung SM951 M.2/PCIe ssd in their Ncase M1 builds? I'm assuming it's the slot out on back of the board. Would you have to mount a fan over it or something?
     
  33. Skhmt

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    I am, but my mobo m.2 slot is on the front.
     
  34. Topsu

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    Is it possible to use accelero xtreme 4 without the huge backside heatsink, using my own heatsinks in frontside ofc.

    No store sells accelero xtreme 3 in Finland. =/
     
  35. klatox

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    Did you ever try this?
     
  36. Phuncz

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    Yes it's possible, although you should mind that the shafts going through the four main holes in the PCB around the core extend about 20 or 30mm above the PCB. You can see this somewhat in the following picture:

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    Above the heatpipes on the left, the silver vertical long thumbscrews.
     
  37. Zangmonkey

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    Is that your setup? It's pretty much exactly what I was looking to do.
    If so, can you comment on heat/noise?
     
  38. flatlander

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    Also, is that the NH-C14? I have most of this already, just waiting for Skylake availability.
     
  39. Skhmt

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    Will a Corsair h75 fit in an ncase m1? If not, does it come with screws to mount only one fan?
     
  40. Necere

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    Yes it will fit, but with significant difficulty if using both fans. It looks like it comes with 8 long screws - 4 for each fan - so using it with one fan is straightforward.