NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

icedlink said:
I'm having the same idea, no doubt that the 120mm fan is superior compared to 92mm but thinking about tower fans able to direct exhaust hot air out vs top down fans (Into the casing ) given the two heat sink Noctua U9S and C12 weight 528g vs 550g (almost similar in weight and surface area),

1 top down , it can draw in fresh air from the side bracket directly and a fan can be attach to the rear casing as an exhaust,

2 tower with fan mounted horizontally , a fan can be installed on the side bracket ( psu side ) to draw in fresh air.


I can't decide which is better.


Has anyone compared both ?
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I have the C14 and U9B and the C14 cools my components much better with around the same noise level. The C14 setup uses 3 fans instead of 2. I know it's not a direct comparison to your ideas but that's been my experience
 
Hanakuso said:
I have the C14 and U9B and the C14 cools my components much better with around the same noise level. The C14 setup uses 3 fans instead of 2.
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How in the heck do you fit 3x fans on the C14?? (pretty sure 1x fan on that cooler would be more than enough for any ITX application).
 
AFD said:
How in the heck do you fit 3x fans on the C14?? (pretty sure 1x fan on that cooler would be more than enough for any ITX application).
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He's probably using another side fan (the second one covers the heatsink slightly)
 
Guys, someone can tell me how it should view the tracking page of the taiwan PS? My tracking number doesn't update and on taipei it's night friday. :(
 
Ncase recieved my order on the 16th and said that the case would ship by that following Tuesday. However, I don't know how I'm supposed to find the tracking number. I did not pay through a PayPal account.
 
ncaser said:
Has it been mentioned why the surface mail option increase in cost from $20 to $30?
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We were actually subsidizing surface delivery before. W360 doesn't want to do that anymore because "Ocean Freight is full of headache and unpredictable delivery time," in his words. Air shipping is subsidized though.

Bluehinder said:
Do we have to sign for the delivery here in the US?
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Probably, though this sometimes depends on the whim of your delivery person.

Yambag said:
Ncase recieved my order on the 16th and said that the case would ship by that following Tuesday. However, I don't know how I'm supposed to find the tracking number. I did not pay through a PayPal account.
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Email w360 (info at ncases dot com) about it.
 
Necere said:
Probably, though this sometimes depends on the whim of your delivery person.
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Ahhhh the whim of the delivery person. Most of the times I feel deep respect for them carrying the many packages around the country for us, as fast as possible. But then that one time they leave your package in front of the door or give it to some random person walking by and you feel pure rage going from your hate-filled face to your shaking fist and shout "damn you, delivery person, damn you !"
 
My case was supposedly on a flight on the 23rd but the tracking information hasn't been updated since then. Any other way to check where it is?
 
Saint001 said:
Did you get any other updates before you received it? Mine shipped the same day. I'm in New England.
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Yep. I got a "Inbound into customs" on the 24th and "arrival, sorting and out for delivery" on the 26th. I'm in Hawaii.
 
MisterClean said:
Man you aren't kidding. I'm not finding much of anything out there, and what I do find is outrageously priced. 200-300 bucks is way ou tof the range for me. I guess I'll just hope I can get lucky and find something good used, or look for a cheap combo build (maybe AMD has something). I really don't want to spend more than 150 bucks, since I'm holding out for a fresh build on skylake.
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Suggestion–– I just found GA-B75M-D2V on Gigabyte's website:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4402

This is a budget LGA 1155 board that should fit–– while I couldn't find it sold in the US, it can be found on amazon UK for ~45 pounds... $70 isn't too bad. A nice thing about this board is that it's got 2 extra PCIE slots, perfect for adding another card in addition to graphics with the M1's third slot!
 
Anagog said:
My case was supposedly on a flight on the 23rd but the tracking information hasn't been updated since then. Any other way to check where it is?
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m1user said:
This didn't work for me, I entered my tracking number and the captcha, then clicked GO.
Nothing happened...?

According to https://www.17track.net/ it should've been dispatched on the 23rd, but no updates since.
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Me too, the flight of mine was the 23rd but the tracking doesn't update yet. I hope they update it the monday, when my country PS work.
 
Holiday season people.


Shipments and tracking info. may not update until this coming Monday.
 
I'm trying decide on a rad. An x-flow 240 seems like it would work perfect like a hwlab nemesis gts. However I know they aren't suppose to be as good as a regular rad. Would a magicool g2 slim 27mm thick me worth those extra few mm, or get something with a little higher like 20 fpi but 35mm thick. Also has anyone cooled a cpu, and gpu with mild oc on a 120mm rad as with higher fpi... koolance comes to mind, they claim 400w of dissipation though I don't think its 30mm. Do black ice cool better than others if fpi is the same? I've only used Alphacool rads and they have low 8-9 fpi. I'm leaning towards the magicool g2 slim, but wanna hear some other opinions.
 
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I tested the cooling performance of this computer, Posts 14851, 14852, by running the following test for a half hour: Prime95 Version 28.5 Version 2 with Heaven Benchmark 4.0 (Resolution: 1920 x 1200).

Ambient Temperature: Approximately 20.556°C

Test results, as measured by HWiNFO64, were:

Pump RPM: Highest--3524; Average--3468
Bottom Radiator Fans RPM: Highest--1834; Average--1745
Side Radiator Fans RPM: Highest--1278; Average--1182

GPU Temperature: Highest--45.0°C; Average--40.5°C

CPU Temperature:
Core 0: Highest--99.0°C; Average--73.5°C
Core 1: Highest--91.0°C; Average--76.9°C
Core 2: Highest--87.0°C; Average--74.0°C
Core 3: Highest--84.0°C; Average--71.4°C

Note: I delidded the CPU and applied Coollaboratory Liquid Pro for the above-noted test. Prior to delidding, I performed the same test, but with HWMonitor, and the results were as follows:

Ambient Temperature: Approximately 20.556°C

Test results, as measured by CPUID HWMonitor, were:

Pump RPM: Highest--3835; Typical--3750
Bottom Radiator Fans RPM: Highest--1851; Typical--1829
Side Radiator Fans RPM: Not recorded

GPU Temperature: Highest--47.0°C; Typical--43.0°C

CPU Temperature:
Core 0: Highest--100°C; Typical--87°C
Core 1: Highest--100°C; Typical--86°C
Core 2: Highest--100°C; Typical--89°C
Core 3: Highest-- 99°C; Typical--82°C

(HWMonitor does not appear to record average results, and thus, I used the word "Typical" to indicate the typical RPM or temperature under the "Value" column of HWMonitor as the test neared its end.)
 
perfect rad for m1? :D

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Has anybody considered a large GPU heatsink like Morpheus (no idea if this particular unit will fit, just thinking) and using the bottom fans as exhaust, pulling air through it?

This should alleviate the issue of needing a noisy blower fan as the head dumped by the CPU is much smaller than that dumped by the GPU and the GPU heat will be effectively sucked right out of the case before it can dramatically heat up the internal volume.

This would basically make the top or the side the primary intake and would let us get a silent air-cooled system in the M1.
 
Zangmonkey said:
Has anybody considered a large GPU heatsink like Morpheus (no idea if this particular unit will fit, just thinking) and using the bottom fans as exhaust, pulling air through it?

This should alleviate the issue of needing a noisy blower fan as the head dumped by the CPU is much smaller than that dumped by the GPU and the GPU heat will be effectively sucked right out of the case before it can dramatically heat up the internal volume.

This would basically make the top or the side the primary intake and would let us get a silent air-cooled system in the M1.
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Morpheus is probably too thick for 25mm fans. Accelero Xtreme will be just right.
I'm doing bottom exhaust with a slightly modded PCS+ R9 290 with some ducting. With a Accelero Xtreme ducting isn't needed. And yes, my other components are spared from the heat from the GPU. My intakes are 2x120mm fans on the side and 1x92mm fan on the back.
 
Just ordered :) cant wait to start this build. Can someone give me the part number of a cheap optical drive that will work perfectly with this case? I dont need blu ray or anything fancy. Thanks
 
Also am I going to have any issue using the power cord that comes with the ncase v3 using a silverstone ST30SF PSU? (as far as it being the right angle without causing interference)
 

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I have installed the PSU and gfx card as you can see in the following pics. Problem is that due the SFX-L psu formfactor, the gfx card will not fit in the primary slots.

Now i'm in a doubt. I can buy a flexible pcie x16 riser card to connect the card with pcie slot. Question is, will this setup provide decent air inflow to the gfx card or should i go for a Silverstone SFX form-factor PSU?

PSU is a Chieftec http://www.chieftec.eu/en/psus/smart-series/sfx-500gd-c.html SFX-500GD-C
 
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Darth Punk said:
I have installed the PSU and gfx card as you can see in the following pics. Problem is that due the SFX-L psu formfactor, the gfx card will not fit in the primary slots.
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It's actually the combination of a (I presume) V1 or V2 Ncase M1 (thus without V3 PSU bracket), SFX-L PSU and a GPU with a backplate. But it was never going to easily fitting, as Necere has said many times.

Darth Punk said:
Question is, will this setup provide decent air inflow to the gfx card or should i go for a Silverstone SFX form-factor PSU?
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It would actually be ideal since your GPU has a reference design blower-fan cooling, meaning it will suck cool air from below the case through the ventilation holes and exhaust it out of the back of the card. Lowering it has the potential benefit of reducing the amount of warm air inside the case being sucked up into the GPU, although that won't be a problem in reality.

But no, it won't be a problem for decent airflow.
 
I attached the ATX-SFX adapter plate that came with my SX600-G power supply to the M1 ATX power supply bracket that comes with Versions 1 and 2 of the case. The ATX-SFX adapter has ridges that only permit it to be mounted on the underside of the M1 ATX bracket. This lowers the PS by the thickness of the adapter. Still, this allowed me to take some photos and measurements. (I couldn't find my digital calipers so the values in the photos could be off by a millimeter.)

I found that there is 5 mm of space between the top panel and the top of the power cable, though the PS is lower by the thickness of the ATX-SFX adapter. If you trim the ridges and edges from adapter plate it would be possible to attach it to the top of the M1 ATX bracket. This would raise the PS by the thickness of the M1 ATX bracket (~1 mm) to about its normal height. However, if you used longer (6-32) bolts and spacers or washers to attach the ATX-SFX adapter to the M1 ATX bracket, you could raise the PS even more. This might be an acceptable alternative to the V3 PS bracket for some people.

Doing this would eliminate the ability to have a 120 mm fan on the front position of the side bracket. I believe there is still enough room on the inside of the front panel to mount two 2.5 inch drives using the M1 piggy-back plates.



 
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Been using my M1 build for a year now.
Reference GTX 780 (overclocked) + i5 @ 4ghz (with the biggest Noctua, don't remember the name).

The only thing I'm not completely happy with, is the video card cooling.
While the blower cooler is fairly good, and probably the best out-of-the-box solution for this case, it is still unable to sustain overclocked boost clocks all the time.
Has anyone toyed with the idea of adding a home-made watercooling solution to work in tandem with the reference cooler? Similar to the Radeon 295x2.
 
Anyone received their V3 PSU bracket yet? Ordered 13th, supposed to ship 18th via USPS. Have not got any tracking information via email or in Paypal.
 
bbskd87 said:
Been using my M1 build for a year now.
Reference GTX 780 (overclocked) + i5 @ 4ghz (with the biggest Noctua, don't remember the name).

The only thing I'm not completely happy with, is the video card cooling.
While the blower cooler is fairly good, and probably the best out-of-the-box solution for this case, it is still unable to sustain overclocked boost clocks all the time.
Has anyone toyed with the idea of adding a home-made watercooling solution to work in tandem with the reference cooler? Similar to the Radeon 295x2.
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not sure but you could try a kraken cooler on it? not sure if it will fit.. or you could go water block connected to a swiftech h220
 
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