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nano!!!

Fedex just delivered mine. After 30 minutes, I can tell that flash is the future of music players.

Really guys, this thing is freakin' awesome.

I am STILL disappointed Apple did not incorporate an FM tuner, but I only take .01 points off for that.

-Larry
 
It certainly does. Just like a USB key. No software needed.

-Larry

Jaxie said:
I'm thinking of buying one of those... i just wonder if it comes up as a standard USB-mass-storage device in windows.... so you can use it as a USB flash-memory stick also? or do you hafta have the apple software installed on the computer it is used on?
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The iPod phones are as good as you'll get in the box, but I don't really like Earbuds (except for rare occasions).

I picked up a set of Sennheiser PX-100's from Newegg. For the price, these are the best over-the-head headphones I've heard.

-Larry

Black Morty Rackham said:
The head phones the iPod ships with are kind of crummy. They're some of the better "free" head phones I've used, but nothing for someone with high quality demands.
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acaurora said:
That's why you wait for the iPod Tubes, which won't be available for a month. I am returning mine, taking the 10% hit, then going to buy another black 4 GB once it hits my store (I work @ BestBuy), then buy the Tubes once we start carrying them (accessory = high margin = big discount). While I wait for the Tubes to arrive I wont touch, breathe, or even stare at the Nano, otherwise I"ll get "distracted", lol.
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No tubes for me... Unless the "clear" is REALLY "clear". I'm checking out these guys as well: http://www.ezgear4u.com/ezSkinNanoPR.htm

Onyx black!

I can always buff out the little scratches with my 3-step novus plastic polishes anyhow.
 
It has a plastic layer on top of the ipod (except for the wheel). Any normal mild plastic cleaner/polisher should clean that right up.

YMMV :)

-Larry

MikeDeuce said:
Picked mine up from apple store SF yesterday, it's amazing!

Just a warning to the folks picking up the black one, it scratches ridiculously easily. I had it in my shirt pocket with a pack of orbit gum (not particularly abrasive) and it has a ton of scratches already. And of course I can't find any cases yet...
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It's not overpriced really. It IS expensive.

Word has it the 4GB cost Apple $90 for the flash memory alone.

Predicted margins are far less than the other iPods.

UNLESS Apple got one hell of a killer deal with Samsung.

BTW... There's no guarantee it has Samsung flash either. At least one 2GB has been seen with Toshiba memory.

-Larry

Hal|9k said:
Apple, once again, nails style right in the teeth. This thing is HAWT. Certainly overpriced and decidedly NOT cutting-edge technology, but I'm smitten. If I wasn't still "on the honeymoon" with my iMate Jam, I'd have already mugged the debit card.

I saw the commercial Thursday night during the Pats game and it was an eye-opener, for sure. Funny thing is, I had no idea it was coming. I'm surprised it's bumping off the mini, too, since it's taking that niche and lacks some of the mini's functionality. Seems more like what the Shuffle should have been in the first damn place. Oh, well. It's still hawt.

Here's a gynecologist's-eye view for y'all:

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/0908/nano.htm
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Stern and Don & Mike fixes :)

-Larry

btf1980 said:
Why do people keep complaining about the lack of an fm tuner? I thought the point of MP3 players was for you to listen to your own music? Who the hell listens to the radio these days? Who wants to? I don't know about you, but anytime I listen to music, I love mine to be edited, interjected by obnoxious DJ's and interrupted every 10 minutes by un-ending commercials. I gotta have that!!!
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TechLarry said:
Stern and Don & Mike fixes :)

-Larry
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But the Sirius move for Stern is just around the corner... then the FM tuner will be dead weight (For those of us that don't know who Don & Mike are, at least).

So really what we need to be complaining about is the lack of a Sirius tuner... heh.
 
soulsaver_8229 said:
no one posting pics of their nano or cube? :(

soulsaver
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For Size Reference.
ninenano1.jpg


Taking a picture of a mirror is tough.
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Finally, in focus.
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Logitech MX Duo Keyboard, for size reference.
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From my "Engrave my iPod poll" in GenMay.
 
can somebody confirm that they act like removable harddrives and don't require the use of itunes?

edit: hehe great pics by the way
 
hm they do act like removable HD, but you cant play the music you xfer that way.

May I suggest ml_ipod winamp plug in for non itunes use? or ephpod seems popular too.

with ml_ipod + winamp you can copy files to and from the ipod on any machine with the plug in + winamp.

If you want to use itunes in addition, you can always unlock any purchased music with jhymn.

I use itunes at work at home, just don't sync it to either library. This allows me to put songs from either itunes library on it.
 
Wow, all these years I couldn't give a shit about Macs IPod crap but the second I saw that thing, I was ready to wip out the credit card, me like alot!! I used to love iRiver but I think they are in deep shit now.
 
can anyone recommend a set of headphones/earphones suitable for working out with but still have good sound? Most tend to fallout or slip off while getting sweaty.
 
Check out the current sony lineup... ex71sl are working out very well for me with the nano in my shirt pocket (it comes with a short cord and an extension, great if you use a shirt pocket like me or that goofy armband). They have the 3 different sized silicon ear bud thingies that seal really easily and are very comfortable to me.

I have a pair of etymotic er6i also that are great for trains/planes/automobiles because they seal really well, but I have to jam them pretty far in my ears.

Apple also sells a set with the different sized silicon jobbies, but they don't fit too well in my ear, and sound a bit too bright to me (possibly a result of the imperfect seal?).

You can also pull the sony's out a bit and hear outside noise fairly well, which might be important if you are out running in public. They still hold well even pulled out a bit in my experience... and they come in black. For $35 online you can afford to drown these in sweat, too.
 
Meh, My Sony NW-HD1 is 20 gigs and fits in the smaller pocket inside the pocket.
I never liked the I-Pods. The nano in black is cool looking but the 2 gigs of space just is a major major turn off. Style is no excuse at that price unless your rich.
 
{NG}Fidel said:
Meh, My Sony NW-HD1 is 20 gigs and fits in the smaller pocket inside the pocket.
I never liked the I-Pods. The nano in black is cool looking but the 2 gigs of space just is a major major turn off. Style is no excuse at that price unless your rich.
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Not knocking the Sony, but this is Apples to oranges really (heh... Apple)... the Nano is a flash player, it's smaller in nearly every dimension and lighter (3.5x1.6x0.27 @ 1.5oz vs 3.5x2.4x0.6 @ 3.8 oz), and presumably more shock resistant. Also keep in mind that these factors can be very important to some buyers (for functional reasons, too).

But really there's too much comparison of these guys to HD based Mp3 players.

They should be compared to flash based mp3 players like the creative zen nanos 1gb @ $120-160 or Sony's network walkman which is around the same range as the creatives in 1gb sizes (Prices I just grabbed off shopper...). The 2gb ipod nano is offering 2x the space for far less than twice the price, and the 4gb offers 4x the space at roughly 2x the price.

Take a look at the difference in price and I think you will agree that it's inaccurate to say the ipod nano is style at a price (ESPECIALLY the 4gb version).
 
Another little tidbit is the solid state memory is detachable. Theoretically, just like I did with my normal Ipod (10 Gig=>40 gig off ebay), you can swap out the flash card for a larger size when one becomes available.

So, in a year when there is a 8 gig flash card, pop it open drop in the new one, badda bing, upgrade. At least, that's what I am hoping.
 
Disco_Stu_04 said:
Another little tidbit is the solid state memory is detachable. Theoretically, just like I did with my normal Ipod (10 Gig=>40 gig off ebay), you can swap out the flash card for a larger size when one becomes available.

So, in a year when there is a 8 gig flash card, pop it open drop in the new one, badda bing, upgrade. At least, that's what I am hoping.
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I think the chip is soldered on to the board. And even if you put a new chip on, you'd have to deal with the firmware since its solid state. Its not like there is any old chip in there. There only two makers of the chips. The 4gb is the Samsung and then the 2gb seems to be either Samsung or Toshiba. I expect that the firmware is locked to those two. But we can all wish I guess. hah...I bet by the time the 8gb chips come out and someone figures out how to put one on, my warranty will be up. tee hee
 
I thought about that ... till I saw one torn apart

2Gb has the TOSHIBA memory soldered in .
4Gb has the SAMSUNG memory attached on a daughter card
if Apple decides to make bigger SAMSUNG daughter cards in the future, welps ... then we're in luck
 
SB22 said:
Best Buy is retarded. They told me the Nano won't be released until Christmas. (They told me this last week).
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Whoever told you this is wrong. We have them. Both capacities and both colors. As for the Nano Tubes (the cases) I don't know when we will carry them but soon, I'm guessing, as I am told by the supervisor at the Apple Store in the nearby mall (Arden Fair) that they are expecting them within this week, and as a competitor of course we will start carrying them soon as well.

Also, Sony has released a flash MP3 player, the NW-E507 I think, i forget the name. It's 512 to 1 GB, uses a very sexy OLED display, and is rated at 40 hrs (or 50, i forget again) of battery life! I like it a LOT, although the color LCD and the damn thiness of the Nano is what made me get that instead of the Sony, which has MUCH better sound.
 
markt435 said:
I think the chip is soldered on to the board. And even if you put a new chip on, you'd have to deal with the firmware since its solid state. Its not like there is any old chip in there. There only two makers of the chips. The 4gb is the Samsung and then the 2gb seems to be either Samsung or Toshiba. I expect that the firmware is locked to those two. But we can all wish I guess. hah...I bet by the time the 8gb chips come out and someone figures out how to put one on, my warranty will be up. tee hee
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Check it out. I'm hoping we can take advantage of this in the future.


http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2F2005%2F0908%2Fnano.htm&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&c2coff=1&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools


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I just wish I could customize the EQ. Thats only gripe I have right now...that and what seems to be crappy batt life...may just be mine though.
 
acaurora said:
Also, Sony has released a flash MP3 player, the NW-E507 I think, i forget the name. It's 512 to 1 GB, uses a very sexy OLED display, and is rated at 40 hrs (or 50, i forget again) of battery life! I like it a LOT, although the color LCD and the damn thiness of the Nano is what made me get that instead of the Sony, which has MUCH better sound.
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Sony is crap, plain and simple. I don't need to go into details but that battery life is seriously inflated. The only way to achieve abnormal battery lengths with the Sony hardware is to play back files encoded in their shite ATRAC3 codec.
 
I just got one and am absolutely blown away by the gui. I found myself thinking, "no way it's gonna do this when I press...SWEET, how friggin' intuitive!" The nano FAR exceeds my previous player, the Samsung MT6-Z. There's really nothing I can't say that's been said...gotta check it out yourself....mmmm...yummy apple :D
 
Picked up a nano for my fiancee last night. First Apple product I have ever bought. I'm really impressed with it. The iTunes s/w may not be great, but still easy for a average user.

 
Rich Tate said:
The iTunes s/w may not be great, but still easy for a average user.
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I used to be a hardcore Winamp user, almost to the point of being a fanatic. I have been following the growth of mp3 since its inception. How many people on these forums can say that they listed to their first mp3 on Winplay 3? Then Winamp was born and I was loving every minute of it. Then they built the plug-in system and it got even better. I always thought that the feature set and performance of Winamp was unrivaled, but when I wanted to catalog and properly organize my music, Winamp just didn't fit the bill. That and I wanted easy and proper integration with my iPod. So I tried iTunes and have been in love ever since.

The only real gripe I have about iTunes is the sheer lack of visualizations and plug-ins. But it's alright, because I get by with some R4. It's nice because it works with anything. ;)

Which leads me to my question, what don't people like about iTunes? BTW, bloat is not an option.
 
Night Fox said:
I used to be a hardcore Winamp user, almost to the point of being a fanatic. I have been following the growth of mp3 since its inception. How many people on these forums can say that they listed to their first mp3 on Winplay 3? Then Winamp was born and I was loving every minute of it. Then they built the plug-in system and it got even better. I always thought that the feature set and performance of Winamp was unrivaled, but when I wanted to catalog and properly organize my music, Winamp just didn't fit the bill. That and I wanted easy and proper integration with my iPod. So I tried iTunes and have been in love ever since.

The only real gripe I have about iTunes is the sheer lack of visualizations and plug-ins. But it's alright, because I get by with some R4. It's nice because it works with anything. ;)

Which leads me to my question, what don't people like about iTunes? BTW, bloat is not an option.
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Here are a couple of my gripes in general:
1) No good documentation in the product
2) On a freshly installed machine, I had to disable the services it installed, to make it properly run. It would not let me disconnect the iPod anytime that stuff was in the background.
3) Bloated install. I don't want quicktime to run my mp3 player.
4) And it (the iTunes s/w in general) is bloated. Sorry but thats a big deal to me.

Overall I think it's a nice product for managing your music onto the device, but there is some room for improvement. I have yet to figure out totally how the library works, haven't really played with it much, but It's also not very clear. I'm not sure if you can have songs in the library and not on the iPod etc. That's why I gripe about having a nice book bundled with the product.


 
Rich Tate said:
Here are a couple of my gripes in general:
1) No good documentation in the product
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What software product comes with a decent manual nowadays anyway?

But if you have questions about the software, you could always try the web-based Help and Support system, which is very thorough as well as the support reps being very helpful as well.

Rich Tate said:
2) On a freshly installed machine, I had to disable the services it installed, to make it properly run. It would not let me disconnect the iPod anytime that stuff was in the background.
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Well that sounds like an issue with your machine.

Rich Tate said:
3) Bloated install. I don't want quicktime to run my mp3 player.
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It is possible to download iTunes separately. But since some features of iTunes, like Video Podcasts, require QuickTime; why not bundle them together?

Rich Tate said:
4) And it (the iTunes s/w in general) is bloated. Sorry but thats a big deal to me.
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Not enough information. You claiming it's "bloated" doesn't make it so.
 
Trust me it's not the machine. I read several forums where other people had the same issue, and that was the suggested fix. Now granted, I will give you it's surely some form of common software (or pieces of software) conflict, but it doesn't have a single problem except for iTunes.

I understand your point as well about the bundling, but shouldn't it be my choice what I want to use? I come from a winplay/winamp background, still have winplay on disc actually. ;) So maybe I am used to a more open end way to use my software, being able to make my own choices about what does what etc.

And in terms of bloated, I meant that the program uses a bit more resource to do a simple job than it should.

Once again, I am not bashing your proggie, I'm not a f an bo y by any means, just a few of my complaints. As I said, overall, I think it's a great little program, just has some room for improvement.



 
Rich Tate said:
I have yet to figure out totally how the library works, haven't really played with it much, but It's also not very clear. I'm not sure if you can have songs in the library and not on the iPod etc. That's why I gripe about having a nice book bundled with the product.
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http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/

Lots of tutorials for ipod/itunes use.

PS you can have songs in the library and not the ipod as long as you do not sync the library to the ipod. Note that if you do change from manually to automatically updating the ipod, your library will remove any songs on the ipod that are not in your library as it is basically thoroughly synching the two.

And Rich, I'm not sure if you read my post above, but you would probably love the ml_ipod plug in as it will allow winamp to act just like itunes, without the bloat and associated incompatibilities that you have experienced. Plus, it will let you copy files to and from any machine as long as it is running ml_ipod.
 
It is possible to download iTunes separately. But since some features of iTunes, like Video Podcasts, require QuickTime; why not bundle them together?
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You can't run iTunes without QuickTime, since it uses QT for audio playback and such. NOT bundling them is not an option.
 
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