My Far Cry 2 Quick Thoughts, AWESOME

AVT said:
You can. Buy the dart rifle - it's exactly the same as a bolt action sniper.
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4 shots? No thank you. 15 is not enough to infiltrate 5-10 camps on the way to objective,
Riftsaw said:
Correct. Also a one hit kill not matter where you pop an enemy. Unfortunately, without a bandolier upgrade you only get 4 shots. FOUR shots. FOUR SHOTS. Atleast its silenced though.

On an unrelated note: can't you tell I'm horrible at sniping? :p
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Why can't sniper be in a special slot? :(
 
I love the assassination style missions. It's like a free roaming hitman game. I'm a noob in the solo game still so all i had was my knife, a pistol, a machine gun and a rocket launcher so i decided to play it stealthy.... well I tried.

I spent ages going around to the back of the area where my target was - got down in the grass... as i approached i decided to turn back and come at him at a different angle. as i turned soe guard who must have seen or heard something was stood a little behind me looking around - i crouched over to him and stabbed him then ran off into the thick jungle. when i knew it was clear i went around the side or the base and then i heard shouting and everyone started running around - i whipped my rocket launcher out and got the target in sight - but then i noticed the guards weren't after me - someone must have heard me kill the other guy because everyone was running around that area - so i ended up jumping into the water... swimming to the target climbing up behind him stabbing him and then running off as the guards spotted me and gave chase.

I thought i was well clear a few minutes later so i bailed out of my boat and took off on foot - after getting lost i went back to my boat area and there were 2 other boats there with guards on them so after firing off a rocket blowing them up i got back in my boat and sped away.

Awesome AI cant beleive people say the AI is shit
 
jonneymendoza said:
I love the assassination style missions. It's like a free roaming hitman game. I'm a noob in the solo game still so all i had was my knife, a pistol, a machine gun and a rocket launcher so i decided to play it stealthy.... well I tried.

I spent ages going around to the back of the area where my target was - got down in the grass... as i approached i decided to turn back and come at him at a different angle. as i turned soe guard who must have seen or heard something was stood a little behind me looking around - i crouched over to him and stabbed him then ran off into the thick jungle. when i knew it was clear i went around the side or the base and then i heard shouting and everyone started running around - i whipped my rocket launcher out and got the target in sight - but then i noticed the guards weren't after me - someone must have heard me kill the other guy because everyone was running around that area - so i ended up jumping into the water... swimming to the target climbing up behind him stabbing him and then running off as the guards spotted me and gave chase.

I thought i was well clear a few minutes later so i bailed out of my boat and took off on foot - after getting lost i went back to my boat area and there were 2 other boats there with guards on them so after firing off a rocket blowing them up i got back in my boat and sped away.

Awesome AI cant beleive people say the AI is shit
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I love the Cell phone tower missions.. IEDs FTW!.. just watch the circuit then place the IED.. They get close.. KABOOM. Not a shot fired.
 
This is the best Far Cry 2 thread over here... The whiners don´t come in here and I actually get some useful info. I got the DART Rifle just recently... I love the sound of it. Of course it´s totally unrealistic being able to fire darts such distance and with no ballistic trajectory but well who cares if it works :). 4 shots isn´t much but just loot guard posts they carry special ammo as well it seems?

As for the AI yes I can´t believe why there is so much complaints about it. Really only Crysis may have better AI but they don´t try to rescue their buddies. When the Far Cry 2 AI behaves their best it´s on par certainly. Of course sometimes you catch them doing strange things but not often in hardcore difficulty anyway.

And no the AI don´t hit me with every shot even the snipers miss... I watched a sniper in a binocular. He didn´t have X-ray vision but when he pointed the scope at me he saw me. I was quite a bit away but if I see him in a binocular you don´t think he would see me in a scope??? If you can see a sniper he can see you. Can´t even lay down in Far Cry 2 that is a bit of a miss though not being able to lay down or lean left to right to make you less visible... Console damage for sure not enough buttons I suppose they figured or console users can´t memorize to many commands.

I also like the way you have to work for your weapons... And yes I mean work... Not just going through the game and get new weapons the more you progress like is the standard in fps but you actually have to hunt for diamonds. As for the camo suite havent seen that I guess I will put that on my wish list... I have unlocked rocket launcher and a lot but lacks the diamonds... Time to start to do the primary missions I suppose.
 
Anyone running an HD4850 in DX9? At 1600x1200, no AA, I can set everything to ultra high except shading and shadows, which bring my framerates from 35-40 down to 15-25. I see HardOCP has the HD4850 at 32 fps minimum at 1920x1200 with ultra high everything. Wondering if it's a benefit of DX10.
 
the only problem i have with this game is how quick the enemies respawn. other then that. this game is fucking legend mate.
 
i still haven't tried the dart gun - made the mistake of buying it, but then when i saw how much ammo i could carry in it, i put it back on the wall without ever firing a shot. :p

my setup of choice is the drugonov in primary, saw chain-gun in secondary (i'd recommend this for people who want the assault-riffle to go w/ their sniping - the saw fits the bill nicely, and it holds more ammo!), and the silence pistol for my stealth needs. i'll occasionally carry the rocket-launcher for anti-vehicle missions, in which case you'll want the mac or uzi for the up-close auto.

i was shocked at first at how poorly the machete works as a stealth weapon, but it really makes sense if you think about it - unless you slit their throats (which would be pretty hard w/ a machete) the victim is going to be screaming pretty loudly after that first strike. not the best way to get a silent take-down. has anyone tried going for head/throat shots w/ the machete? maybe that works better.

i agree that the camo suit is almost completely useless - i was expecting something more like the ghillie suit in cod4, but it didn't change the player model (you can see most of yourself while driving) at all. i noticed that i can be ignored by enemies while crouching but they still see you as soon as you move. i'm pretty sure these stealth tactics worked almost this well before i had the "camo suit" - certainly not worth the 45-diamonds it costs in the gear-shop - should be available for well under the costs of the cheapest gun in the game. not sure where these game devs buy their cloths, but i can a simple set of camo-bdu's for around $45-usd - for the in-game price, the camo-suit should have been something much more spectacular.

lastly ***minor spoiler*** i have one more gripe. i decided last night to treck into every single sector of the maps (looks like the map is broken into 9 sections from which you can see all the items up close) and complete all of the guard check-points to get completion on that part of the game. I got to all 57 of 57 (or whatever the total number is) guard posts scouted, and absolutely nothing happened afterwards! :mad: i was expecting at the very least to go up a couple of reputation levels or something, but nothing happened. oh well... i'm guessing there won't be any benefit to completing the other easter-egg type exercises as well... less motivation to get to the absolute 100% completion. I'm still having loads of fun with this game tho... rant over.


edited for spelling :p hope you're happy now...
 
madFive said:
i agree that the camo suit is almost completely useless - i was expecting something more like the guini suit in cod4...
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lmao i think you mean ghillie suit. a guini suit would consist of a brightly colored shirt and lots of gold chains.
 
:p ya, i knew i was spelling that wrong, but didn't feel like looking it up... at least you knew what i was talking about. :cool:

porter makes a very complicated spell-check - if only i was allowed to use firefox at work. (don't ask)

edited again - lol - i dumped the whole thing into word just to be on the safe side, and it still didn't suggest ghillie - apparently this term isn't exactly common knowledge...
 
hmm another reason I like Far Cry 2 is all the 4850 owners that for some weird reason can´t max Far Cry 2 out... I know the 4850 is generally quite a bit faster then my 8800 GTX but I max Far Cry 2 out at 1920x1200 with no aa and 8x aniso and get 35 fps minimum... It´s a bit stuttery still though... Makes it easier for me to save money and keep my 8800 until it dies and then go ATI again :)

Even though Far Cry 2 is optimized using nvidia hardware I do wonder... I would love to see head to head images since I suspect some fishy things going on... nVidia loves to sacrifice image quality for speed so it may be that rather then poorly optimized ATI drivers for this game.
 
oqvist, is that DX9 or DX10? If it's DX9 then something really is going on with the optimization of those shadow settings.
 
Looking forward to playing a patched Far Cry 2. One that has
1. Much slower respawns
2. A line-of-sight system for the AI so that hiding in the bushes actually does you some good
3. A limited point-based fast travel system (perhaps you could earn three fast travel points for every mission you complete and one fast travel would cost two points)
 
dochmbi said:
Looking forward to playing a patched Far Cry 2. One that has
1. Much slower respawns
2. A line-of-sight system for the AI so that hiding in the bushes actually does you some good
3. A limited point-based fast travel system (perhaps you could earn three fast travel points for every mission you complete and one fast travel would cost two points)
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dont forget a much better multiplayer setup system.. man does it blow right now.
 
oqvist said:
This is the best Far Cry 2 thread over here... The whiners don´t come in here and I actually get some useful info. I got the DART Rifle just recently... I love the sound of it. Of course it´s totally unrealistic being able to fire darts such distance and with no ballistic trajectory but well who cares if it works :). 4 shots isn´t much but just loot guard posts they carry special ammo as well it seems?

As for the AI yes I can´t believe why there is so much complaints about it. Really only Crysis may have better AI but they don´t try to rescue their buddies. When the Far Cry 2 AI behaves their best it´s on par certainly. Of course sometimes you catch them doing strange things but not often in hardcore difficulty anyway.

And no the AI don´t hit me with every shot even the snipers miss... I watched a sniper in a binocular. He didn´t have X-ray vision but when he pointed the scope at me he saw me. I was quite a bit away but if I see him in a binocular you don´t think he would see me in a scope??? If you can see a sniper he can see you. Can´t even lay down in Far Cry 2 that is a bit of a miss though not being able to lay down or lean left to right to make you less visible... Console damage for sure not enough buttons I suppose they figured or console users can´t memorize to many commands.

I also like the way you have to work for your weapons... And yes I mean work... Not just going through the game and get new weapons the more you progress like is the standard in fps but you actually have to hunt for diamonds. As for the camo suite havent seen that I guess I will put that on my wish list... I have unlocked rocket launcher and a lot but lacks the diamonds... Time to start to do the primary missions I suppose.
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AI is pretty good indeed. They do mess up sometimes, ie look straight at me and do absolutely nothing; doesn't happen often.

Has anybody tried DX10 vs DX9 comparison? Game looks sharper in DX9 and bloom makes it look pretty . I also noticed that with bloom enabled, I get about 15 less FPS in DX9 mode. :rolleyes:
 
I have tested both Dx 9 and Dx 10 and both XP and vista 64-bit... I get a bit better fps in vista then in XP. As for image quality well it seem they rather optimized for speed then enhancing the DX 10 though the special effects smoke etc look a bit better in DX 10 it feels like :).

But it stutters in every configuration possible a bit.
 
Started playing this game on an 8800GTS but recently upgraded to a 4850, and I can confirm the studders. I'd say about once every 2 or 3 minutes I'll get a little video hiccup. It only lasts a split second and ultimately I'm almost finished with the game, so I wasn't going to worry about it too much.

Other than that, I was able to put a few choice video settings from High to Very High, and I'm still averaging about 10 to 15 frames higher than the 8800. Considering how inexpensive the 4850's are, I'm happy with the upgrade.
 
Does 45fps feel choppy to anybody else? I dunno, I like playing with 2xaa and everything max, I get anywhere between 45-70 FPS; 45 most of the time. Anyway, it feels choppy and barely playable.
 
Yes most do it seems... Try the MaxFPS to 30 or similar workaround helped a bit.
 
was getting the choppiness/mous lag at first, which was unacceptable, but that seems to have completely gone away once i updated to the new nv 180.42 beta drivers - that's my only recomendation.

i think i'm averaging around 40-50fps and the game runs perfectly smooth now (maxed, 1920, 2xAA).

i do tend to get some odd stuttering when driving around after having played the game for several hours. i'm guessing this has to be either a gpu-cooling issue, or a slight memory leak of some kind. 2gb of memory is hardly enough to play most newer games in vista - i'm guessing the stuttering will go away once i get the chance to upgrade to 4gb.
 
Last night when I was playing I had a literal "WHOA!" out loud moment - and I don't do a lot of those. So I was driving down a jungle dirt road in the second (southern) map - which has a lot of canyons. I came around a corner and there was a wooden bridge about wide enough for a single car. About halfway across this bridge there was this gringo with an AK who started opening up on me. A few rounds hit the jeep and the windshield and I tried to maneuver out of the way. I lost control a bit and my jeep rammed right into the side railing - which, of course, was also made out of wood. Now, this game doesn't have the greatest destructible environments, so I was quite shocked when the railing actually broke away and sent pieces flying down into the river below. My jeep lurched over the side and got stuck with my rear opposite tire about two feet off the ground. I climbed into the back of this precariously perched jeep to man the machine gun and proceeded to fill the commies full of lead. I then exited the jeep out the rear just as the jeep gave way and fell into the river below. I was just so gdamn awesome. You can't script action that good.
 
PoweredBySoy said:
Last night when I was playing I had a literal "WHOA!" out loud moment - and I don't do a lot of those. So I was driving down a jungle dirt road in the second (southern) map - which has a lot of canyons. I came around a corner and there was a wooden bridge about wide enough for a single car. About halfway across this bridge there was this gringo with an AK who started opening up on me. A few rounds hit the jeep and the windshield and I tried to maneuver out of the way. I lost control a bit and my jeep rammed right into the side railing - which, of course, was also made out of wood. Now, this game doesn't have the greatest destructible environments, so I was quite shocked when the railing actually broke away and sent pieces flying down into the river below. My jeep lurched over the side and got stuck with my rear opposite tire about two feet off the ground. I climbed into the back of this precariously perched jeep to man the machine gun and proceeded to fill the commies full of lead. I then exited the jeep out the rear just as the jeep gave way and fell into the river below. I was just so gdamn awesome. You can't script action that good.
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a real man would have jumped out of the jeep and charged the enemies with his machete.

:D on a more serious note that does sound like a cool event. i'm surprised they included the ability for the jeep to just hang off the side of the bridge.
 
I have 4 GB it doesn´t fix any stuttering obviously... I don´t want to exaggerate with the maxfps 30 tweak it´s playable but not as smooth as I am used to in for example Crysis at 25 fps...
 
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