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MGS 4 Trailer

chameleoneel said:
the in game will look that good, it just won't have the same "feel" or seem as cinematic as the "cinemas" or "videos because you can't exactly play a game while using cinematic camera angles and in camera effects. heh.
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That is EXACTLY wat I was going to say. It's the truth. In-game will never feel the same as the cinematics.....NEVER. Even if the graphics were EXACTLY the same in-engine, it would sill look and feel different from the static character movement, animations, as they would all be the same and predictable. That's not the case in cinematics....they are not going to use the same animations in the cinematics because it wouldn't be as beleievable or "real looking". You can't get that same effect in-game as it would be confusing for the player. This is why we all know that the Killzone PS3 video was not in-game. Because movements were not predictable, they were always different and changing. It would be interesting for developers to do something like that, but ultimately wouldn't be significant.

What do you want? To move the camera around in-game to create your own P.O.V. while at the same time pushing a combo of buttons to make snake slowly pull out a cigarrette and push another button to light it while you're pushing more buttons to make his bandana flow while at the same time controlling the soldiers walking down the street as well as the mechs? Come on, none of that can be controlled by YOU in-game, that's the reason it's a video and not you playing....but what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter, and things will always look more realistic in a cutscene even if it is in-game. It's all in camera and character movement.
 
Let's just put this to rest. From 1up:

To quiet any disbelievers, and to give TGS showgoers a sense of how powerful the PS3 hardware really is, Hideo Kojima held a special presentation today to prove the authenticity of his recent Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer. In a demonstration at the Konami booth, Kojima, along with MGS4 character designer Yoji Shinkawa, played the trailer -- and then interacted with it in real time.
 
:rolleyes: What part did he interact with?

The parts that feature a front-view of Snake look possible. Those aren't the pictures that are in question.
 
DarkSeraphim said:
:rolleyes: What part did he interact with?

The parts that feature a front-view of Snake look possible. Those aren't the pictures that are in question.
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Do you know how stupid you sound?
 
RocketFast321 said:
I guess i'm the only person that gets the little joke. The robot that Otacon is on is the same robot from Snatcher. Another game that was made by Kojima in 92ish for the sega cd. And the robot's name in snatcher was metal gear.
http://www.classicgaming.com/reviews/snatcher/snatcher.htm
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that is damn weird dude
how in the world did you remember this game

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jdunner3 said:
After watching the video....that does not show one thing that proves thats what the gameplay will look like. Simply showing us how you can move a camera and change shadows now means that is realistic graphics for gameplay? I would like it to be true.....I am just a realist and not a phanboi. I do love the series and Sony though. Flame on....
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Just wait till the PS3 acctually comes out in the spring................. :p
 
Terpfen said:
Let's just put this to rest. From 1up:

To quiet any disbelievers, and to give TGS showgoers a sense of how powerful the PS3 hardware really is, Hideo Kojima held a special presentation today to prove the authenticity of his recent Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer. In a demonstration at the Konami booth, Kojima, along with MGS4 character designer Yoji Shinkawa, played the trailer -- and then interacted with it in real time.
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you understand that real time means they can stop/pause, pan around, rewind, fast forward, and continue, these things are "real time" and what they did for the Unreal engine presintation. It doesnt mean thats the game play, which it isnt. Its very obvious things in that were scripted, i honostly cant believe you are that easily fooled. That may be the engine, that may be real time, but that sequence was a script.
 
Shifra said:
you understand that real time means they can stop/pause, pan around, rewind, fast forward, and continue, these things are "real time" and what they did for the Unreal engine presintation. It doesnt mean thats the game play, which it isnt. Its very obvious things in that were scripted, i honostly cant believe you are that easily fooled. That may be the engine, that may be real time, but that sequence was a script.
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Clearly, the trailer is a cutscene. Clearly, it isn't gameplay. That isn't the point. The point is that it's a realtime ingame cutscene generated by the PS3 hardware, as opposed to being pre-rendered CG (ala Advent Children.) The fact that Snake's model was displayed from multiple camera angles means it's a real engine-generated model, not a static CG display. Your agreement is not required for this to be true.

To paraphrase you, "I honestly can't believe you are that dense.'
 
Shifra said:
you understand that real time means they can stop/pause, pan around, rewind, fast forward, and continue, these things are "real time" and what they did for the Unreal engine presintation. It doesnt mean thats the game play, which it isnt. Its very obvious things in that were scripted, i honostly cant believe you are that easily fooled. That may be the engine, that may be real time, but that sequence was a script.
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um, what game doesn't use scripting nowadays? scripting is a good thing btw, ever played call of duty and the expansion? those games rock a lot of socks.
 
Terpfen said:
....The point is that it's a realtime ingame cutscene generated by the PS3 hardware, as opposed to being pre-rendered CG (ala Advent Children.) .....
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I havent seen any concrete proof that is running on the PS3 hardware. It would make me very happy if it was....but I hope everyone knows companies have showed some sweet stuff that wasnt necessarily running on the systems hardware.
 
My understanding was that they were shown on a Dev kit, it looked like a slightly larger version of the PS3.
 
jdunner3 said:
I havent seen any concrete proof that is running on the PS3 hardware. It would make me very happy if it was....but I hope everyone knows companies have showed some sweet stuff that wasnt necessarily running on the systems hardware.
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As CrimandEvil said, it was running on a PS3 dev kit, which looks like a slightly-oversized PC.
 
Terpfen said:
which looks like a slightly-oversized PC.
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Actually it was said to look like a slightly over sized PS3 or atleast thats how I remember it. I think it was in the article about Kojima interacting with the trailer or somewhere on IGN.
 
CrimandEvil said:
Actually it was said to look like a slightly over sized PS3 or atleast thats how I remember it. I think it was in the article about Kojima interacting with the trailer or somewhere on IGN.
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Same 1up article.

"It's also worth noting that Kojima had a PS3 development machine (which looked like a slightly oversized PC) on the stage with him to generate the real-time footage."
 
That's now two links I've clicked on to watch the video and two links that have not let me do so.

But from the screenies I've seen it looks like there is some similaries between some of the robots in the MGS game and Mechwarrior (Battletech). The one tall robot thing looks like a Mad Cat III,
 
Now THAT almost makes me want to buy a console.


Almost.






Hopefully it gets ported to PC.
 
OMFG.... i LOVED MGS3, played it seven.. yes seven.. times over, and now this... I can't wait... :eek: :eek: :eek:

EDIT: Seven times in two weeks :D
 
Entropy said:
OMFG.... i LOVED MGS3, played it seven.. yes seven.. times over, and now this... I can't wait... :eek: :eek: :eek:

EDIT: Seven times in two weeks :D
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Thats just wrong. Hope your in HS.
 
hahaha... i actually took a a semester off, but im in a civil engineering course at Uinversity of BC now :p
 
for anyone who hasn't seen the video yet, check my sig, there is a link to the highest res video i have seen so far.
 
Entropy said:
hahaha... i actually took a a semester off, but im in a civil engineering course at Uinversity of BC now :p
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Take the semester off after or before you played it seven times in a row? Boston College? You guys lost me 50 bucks this weekend....damnit. EE is where its at though :cool:
 
That could be too....your probably right. I automatically think college football I guess....
 
jdunner3 said:
I havent seen any concrete proof that is running on the PS3 hardware. It would make me very happy if it was....but I hope everyone knows companies have showed some sweet stuff that wasnt necessarily running on the systems hardware.
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Kojima controlling the demo in realtime and has the ability to alter effects in the game aswell in realtime. http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/18/news_6133820.html
 
the game does look very dope...i didnt watch the trailer posted, because im assuming its the same one a freind showed me last week with all the FPS shit and youare this army guy and infiltrating somewhere and snake comes out and kicks everyones ass....that was dope.
 
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