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Could this get worse? FYI, keep an eye out on your card temps and behavior with the latest driver build?
Could this get worse? FYI, keep an eye out on your card temps and behavior with the latest driver build?
Super jelly of your chippy doohickys on the wall.
Reminds me of the recent story where one small repair shop was claiming that PS5 consoles were being killed when used vertically due to the liquid metal seeping and shorting the board out. If this was such a huge issue the info would be much more widespread.This does not pass the smell test. You know how many of these cards were sold in North America and not a peep about this problem here??? One small computer repair shop in Germany has these flooding in? There is more to this story if it actually is a real story.
Hide 'em from Ian Cutress!Super jelly of your chippy doohickys on the wall.
And an entire 300mm wafer of the first dual core CPUs in the middle.Super jelly of your chippy doohickys on the wall.
Fuck you.
its really weird this pops up right after the 7k series lmao. All at one shop, I mean where did these people get their card? a Mining dump? There are so many used one rolling around i wouldn't lose sleep over this lmao. I would like to see all the 60 cards he is talking about.It's more of a PR nightmare for AMD right now, just a heads up for any 6x series owners as I'm hesitant to do any updates on my htpc rig now, but honestly haven't wanted to update the drivers on that pc for awhile as the games I play there work fine.
Reminds me of the recent story where one small repair shop was claiming that PS5 consoles were being killed when used vertically due to the liquid metal seeping and shorting the board out. If this was such a huge issue the info would be much more widespread.
This does not pass the smell test. You know how many of these cards were sold in North America and not a peep about this problem here??? One small computer repair shop in Germany has these flooding in? There is more to this story if it actually is a real story.
Everyone is trying to push the next issue it seems. Its crazy this comes out right after the 7k series vapor chamber. I don't want to ignore it but really make it seem like propaganda machine is hot against AMD, just everyone gonna jump on it now.
Interesting here is this person stated 30% fail rate of Nvidia cards in his farm and the Radeons didn’t die in the mines but shortly thereafter. Where is the outrage concerning dead RTX cards? I think we all collectively can agree that mining runs the piss out of any gpu so the service life is likely affected.Some miner guy posted this in youtube video comments. IDK how true it is but didn't sound too far fetched, I mean its true shit load of mining cards got sold off last year that are dying out and coming to his shop.
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Interesting here is this person stated 30% fail rate of Nvidia cards in his farm and the Radeons didn’t die in the mines but shortly thereafter. Where is the outrage concerning dead RTX cards? I think we all collectively can agree that mining runs the piss out of any gpu so the service life is likely affected.
Not sure why people will have a big outrage about miners ending up with dead cards on their hands, has those cards get over their 2 years warranty (1 or 3 years depending on the markets/AIBs) since last October and has they get into gamers hands via the used market it will change how people react to issues.Interesting here is this person stated 30% fail rate of Nvidia cards in his farm and the Radeons didn’t die in the mines but shortly thereafter. Where is the outrage concerning dead RTX cards? I think we all collectively can agree that mining runs the piss out of any gpu so the service life is likely affected.
The timing is a bit suspicious. Piling on AMD for the cooler batch issue put them in focus so more attention on them right now for sure. What if after mining for a year or more lots of Radeon cards barely make it past warranty? What if the 6000s for whatever reasons wear out faster when used for mining than the previous gen cards? We will start to see lots of them die here soon based on the launch date maybe. With gpu mining all but dead there are a ton of 6000 series being sold off near end of warranty. Also what if a hobby miner is bag holding with dozen or so cards right now and wow it sure is convenient that they die suddenly before the warranty is up.. Lastly if this is anything at all it should make people consider the risk used card purchases. Like they should anyway. Personally I buy lots of used stuff and understand that anything out of warranty is all risk so the price just needs to reflect that.
But miners claimed that it doesn't harm the cards one but. They are even better then the average used GPU cause they are always ran under volted in a well conditioned space!Interesting here is this person stated 30% fail rate of Nvidia cards in his farm and the Radeons didn’t die in the mines but shortly thereafter. Where is the outrage concerning dead RTX cards? I think we all collectively can agree that mining runs the piss out of any gpu so the service life is likely affected.
I can't speak for anyone but myself, but my mining cards ran cooler and at a lower voltage than any of my system GPUs. I only mined for about 2 years, but I didn't have any failures.But miners claimed that it doesn't harm the cards one but. They are even better then the average used GPU cause they are always ran under volted in a well conditioned space!
Yeah, all these talking heads on YouTube telling you, "Sure, go buy those mining cards, they are excellently cared for," is a load a bullshit.But miners claimed that it doesn't harm the cards one but. They are even better then the average used GPU cause they are always ran under volted in a well conditioned space!
Not all miners are the same. If you take that as 100% guarantee you should think harder Lmao.But miners claimed that it doesn't harm the cards one but. They are even better then the average used GPU cause they are always ran under volted in a well conditioned space!
Every time someone says something like this it sounds like they're trying to sell a load of bullshit. I've never done any mining but I've done plenty of distributed computing projects which includes running on GPUs. I had a couple Radeon RX570s in my system running DC projects part of last year; one of them my own personal card for the system and the other my son's identical card he gave me after replacing it with an RX6700. Those RX570s normally ran pretty damn cool but once there were two of them in the case it was a different story. The one in the middle slot would run normal temperatures because it was getting most of the cool air but my card running in the primary PCI-e slot was almost baking (relative to the normal temps with only one card) because the only air it could get was already pre-heated by the card below and there was very little space between them.Yeah, all these talking heads on YouTube telling you, "Sure, go buy those mining cards, they are excellently cared for," is a load a bullshit.
Using two gpus in your case doing DC is not what most miners were doing. If you don't know, either ask or shut up about topics you know nothing about.Every time someone says something like this it sounds like they're trying to sell a load of bullshit. I've never done any mining but I've done plenty of distributed computing projects which includes running on GPUs. I had a couple Radeon RX570s in my system running DC projects part of last year; one of them my own personal card for the system and the other my son's identical card he gave me after replacing it with an RX6700. Those RX570s normally ran pretty damn cool but once there were two of them in the case it was a different story. The one in the middle slot would run normal temperatures because it was getting most of the cool air but my card running in the primary PCI-e slot was almost baking (relative to the normal temps with only one card) because the only air it could get was already pre-heated by the card below and there was very little space between them.
There's no way you can tell me that a bunch of cards packed as tightly as possible in as small an area as possible running full load 24/7 is considered "cared for". They were beating on those cards as hard as they could and the only thing they cared about was getting their money's worth before the card died.
This is another reason I refuse to buy used video cards. First of all, people lie. There's little chance you can be assured that the owner hasn't mined on the card. There's also no way to know how many times the card has changed hands. The person you're buying from may have never mined on the card but that doesn't mean they were the only owner and if not the person before may have mined the card into the ground.
I don't trust anyone and caveat emptor.
As for the original report, it's way too odd and too convenient to be considered credible for the most part. It's likely every one of the cards being talked about was from a mining setup and abused badly. It's also likely as stated by another poster that the cards probably had been modded for mining and never changed back which caused some really odd issues when used as a normal card. Is it technically possible that the newer drivers are the "cause" of the card failures? Sure, as long as you ignore everything else which was done to the card which had it probably run way out of spec. On those specific cards something different in the new drivers may have been the straw that broke the camel's back but won't likely be the cause unless you ignore everything else loaded onto the camel.
Using two gpus in your case doing DC is not what most miners were doing. If you don't know, either ask or shut up about topics you know nothing about.
MOST miners spent the small price to buy a rack. A rack they needed to run more than 3 or 4 cards per system. Racks have tons of fans and aren't trapped inside a case.
You had a gpu heating issue because you ran then in an enclosed case. Dumb. Inexperienced.
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You think that’s significantly cooler?
Are you implying that cards next to each other with very little space in between is the same as this with cards separated by at least an inch with fans blowing over them?View attachment 541063
You think that’s significantly cooler?
Mining or not. Yes that is gonna be cooler in open air.View attachment 541063
You think that’s significantly cooler?
No shit open air might be cooler. Yay for captain obvious. But you know what else? Those people don't give a shit about the hardware as long as most of it lasted long enough for them to make something off of it and get rid of it. If you think that everyone had "perfect" mining setups designed with keeping the hardware in good shape in mind, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you. I posted one small example of what I have personally experienced. I didn't say I killed the cards. I didn't say the cards were running at the limit regarding thermals. I flat out stated that one of the cards ran a hell of a lot hotter than normal because of the setup. And guess what, the same thing is going to happen with your precious mining setups. We're not talking about a datacenter with a/c units blowing cold air over everything. We're talking about something someone probably has shoved in a closet somewhere because the sound and noise are too much to put up with.Using two gpus in your case doing DC is not what most miners were doing. If you don't know, either ask or shut up about topics you know nothing about.
MOST miners spent the small price to buy a rack. A rack they needed to run more than 3 or 4 cards per system. Racks have tons of fans and aren't trapped inside a case.
You had a gpu heating issue because you ran then in an enclosed case. Dumb. Inexperienced.