LulzSec Hack Suspect Fighting Extradition To US

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  1. HardOCP News

    HardOCP News [H] News

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    Why do defense attorneys in the UK scream "Asperger's syndrome" every time a hacker gets busted? It's not like it has stopped anyone from being extradited...ever. :rolleyes:

     
  2. blackscreen

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    Ah, yes, because the US is a medical backwater, completely incapable of handling the treatment of Asperger's...
     
  3. Jack Hammer

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    'Cause it's a great excuse to keep breaking laws for fun.
     
  4. Raffin

    Raffin Limp Gawd

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    If he functions well enough to hack, he can function well enough to stand trial in the US.
     
  5. Outamyhead

    Outamyhead [H]ardness Supreme

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    Is this the same kid with Asperger's or another one?

    From the look of it, there is a fine line between this version of Autism, and ADHD (heck I get focused on something for a few weeks and then get bored and move on) minus the social awkwardness, and lack of empathy.
     
  6. Obi_Kwiet

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    I don't think Asperger's is something you treat. It's just a condition that causes people to process social interaction a little differently.
     
  7. NKDietrich

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    Everyone and their cousin has Ass Burgers now
     
  8. MartinX

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    It's the only angle they have.

    The UK got pwnt like little bitches when they were negotiating the extradition treaty with the US.

    If the UK wants to extradite a US citizen, they have to present the US government upfront with evidence to prove that the person did something wrong and that there is a credible case to answer, basically almost equivalent to a grand jury level indictment.

    If the US wants to extradite a UK citizen, they pretty much just have to ask, there's no meaningful standard of discovery that can be challenged before the handover, so this assburgers type stuff is the only form of "due process" the victims have to challenge the extradition before getting sucked almost automatically into the US' railroading process.

    I mean, they probably did it and should be punished, but the US definition of justice is kind of medieval, I'd fight extradition any way I could too :p
     
  9. hoppjah

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    This xInfinity.

    The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world at 754 per 100,000.

    Unacceptable.
     
  10. JoeUser

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    Hey, the UK has to do what we say or there might be a "terrorist" attack caused by Brits that will then leave us with no "choice" but to have to invade Britain and occupy their land...
     
  11. Jospeh

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    Assburgers is a made up condition.
     
  12. MavericK

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    No, it isn't, and yes, you can treat it.

    It's kind of like ADHD in that a lot of people claim to have it and throw the term around a lot, so it gets marginalized as something "made up". It's a legitimate condition for someone who actually has it, though.
     
  13. MavericK

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    Also, I'll add that many people with Asperger's can be high-functioning and intelligent, but they just have little to no concept of empathy/sympathy and have trouble reading and expressing facial and social cues.
     
  14. NKDietrich

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    Not really made up, but psychological disorders are fuzzy science at best. There is no Assburgers Virus that you can test for, so they have to trust the word of the patient a lot. Short of someone having a real physical condition underlying their psych problems, everything else is just a matter of trying to line up behaviors with known disorders and see what sort of fits.
     
  15. Sycraft

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    While I understand having disabilities, they don't mean you have a license to do whatever you want. I see an awful lot of self-proclaimed Asperger's people on the Internet that think it gives them license to act like dicks and do as they please. No not so much, actually.
     
  16. RadCliffeX

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    This this and some more of THIS.
     
  17. SkribbelKat

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    He's fighting extradition for the lulz! :p
     
  18. Jospeh

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    I don't believe ADHD is a real disorder either.
     
  19. Outamyhead

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    Good luck with that, didn't happen in WWII with 1 brit fighter against 10 German fighters, and from what I understand of the red flag military sims, not much has changed.

    Besides we are far too busy with tea and scones to bother with bombing people.
     
  20. Outamyhead

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    Tell that to my wife, and anyone that knows me.
     
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    Holy shit i didnt know it was that much damn
     
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  23. DeathPrincess

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    Depends if you have insurance or not. :p
     
  24. rapid

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    this guy is already in prison in the UK on the same charge. What's the point in wasting money and effort extraditing him?
     
  25. SkribbelKat

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    Because he violated US law and an realistically only be put on trial where those laws actually apply in a court that has the authority to interpert them. That's pretty much a standard legal thing across the planet. It prevents someone from going to someplace, doing something against local law, and the fleeing to another nation where the aforementioned thing is actually not illegal.
     
  26. Yossarian22

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    Sounds like sociopathy. :eek:

    Although, I do understand the realities of such and I heard the DSM-V is finally going to come out soon. They're worse than Nvidia. :) ;) :D
     
  27. djgizmo

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    So much [H]ard fail in this thread to those that are supposed to be intelligent. I think some of the community might more fluoride than they're supposed to be.

    Asperger syndrome is a form of autism that can be 'managed' but never cured. Typical persons affected by this condition are usually high functioning individuals and can be highly intelligent. Asperger syndrome affected individuals can often concentrate on a single task for hours, and frequently have difficulty letting the task go unfinished. Certain habits/traits/inabilities of a person can put him or her 'on spectrum' for Asperger syndrome. While any one of us may have 1 or 2 traits of Asperger syndrome, its the multitude and combination of those traits that usually concludes a true diagnosis.

    Most Asperger syndrome persons have sensory and social dysfunctions and often pull away from all but their closest loved ones when under stress. Some people rock in a corner, others spin in a circle until dizzy or passing out, others go to their room and lock everyone out..

    While the written description of Asperger or any form autism makes it seem almost anyone could have the condition depending on the day of the week... those affected by Asperger syndrome is on going forever and usually something a person is born with and diagnosed with at a later age.
     
  28. djgizmo

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    *might be drinking more fluoride*

    dam lack of edit.
     
  29. rapid

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    But he is to be tried by local law, in the UK where he allegedly committed the crime. The US prosecutor has now decided they don't want him:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ker-Ryan-Cleary-to-be-tried-in-UK-not-US.html
     
  30. SkribbelKat

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