Linux versus Windows - bigadv folding results

Mrs. Musky: "Dave, what are you doing down in the basement?"
Musky: "Nothing honey. Just trying to get my cowgirl to do what I want her to do. She's being a bitch"
Mrs. Musky: "OK. Don't work to hard."
 
does this one have a case.... or are you....

nevermind...
 
I'd just like to thank you guys for encouraging MIBW to try Linux, which allowed me to finally(?!) overtake him for #20 on the team. :D

I'm currently installing Windows 7 on some new "D" to maintain the lead. Family Pack FTW.
 
does this one have a case.... or are you....

nevermind...
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Musky, do:

sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-ck linux-headers-generic-ck

H.
 
Did you run this command first?
Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chogydan/ppa && sudo apt-get update
You should get a wall of text after you run that, and then the install command will work.
 
Did you run this command first?
Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chogydan/ppa && sudo apt-get update
You should get a wall of text after you run that, and then the install command will work.

before you can install from a repo you have to add it... thats what the above command does
 
And you have to have the correct names for what you're installing..... ;)

sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-ck linux-headers-generic-ck

are the correct package names, it used to be linux-ck-generic but changed.

H.
 
The one hour shutdown may be a file system issue. I found a post over on FF talking about 10 minute shutdown with standard SMP when the partition is formatted with EXT4 - which is the default for most distros these days. I've just reformatted mine with EXT3 to see if it resolves it.

Can confirm with EXT3 it's not an issue - WU 6901, less than 1 minute from hitting 100% to sending.

H.
 
No need for apologies, just great to hear you are alive and kicking.:cool:
Thanks, musky and I are currently trying to piece together a 16-thread box for me to get Linux running here again at Tobit Labs.
 
alright, it is functioning. I am back to logging the pcie hotplug errors by the truckload, but i am running at close to 100% load so far. For some reason, Stanford thinks that this box should run regular A3 units for a while, so I don't know how frame times look yet.

And you have to have the correct names for what you're installing.....

sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-ck linux-headers-generic-ck

are the correct package names, it used to be linux-ck-generic but changed.

H.

This was my problem. Thanks for figuring that out.
 
... For some reason, Stanford thinks that this box should run regular A3 units for a while, so I don't know how frame times look yet.....

I captured a Linux 6701 - let me know if you want it for reference...
 
All of my Linux folders over the past two years have ALWAYS run the BFS scheduler so I'd agree with this.
It looks like musky is back on track now that he is running the BFS scheduler.. found my post from almost a year ago where I stated BFS was the way to go... even back when we were on the A2 core for bigadv. Sorry again that I wasn't around at the beginning of this thread.

All - Yes, I am running native Linux. It is the only way I will run bigadv until it gets released to the A3 core. I use a very minimal install of Gentoo Linux with a custom compiled 2.6.33 kernel that has the BFS scheduler patched into it. I am now running this on a 30GB Vertex SSD.
 
Well, the good news is, that appears to be the trick. I have been sitting at 2390%+ for an hour now. The bad news is, I am logging thousands of pcie hotplugging errors, which probably explains why i am not even closer to 2400%. The worse news is, 4 regular smp units in a row on this box - none of my windows machines have seen anything but bigadv for weeks. it makes me wonder oif there is a shortage of Linux bigadv units already...
 
It looks like musky is back on track now that he is running the BFS scheduler.. found my post from almost a year ago where I stated BFS was the way to go... even back when we were on the A2 core for bigadv. Sorry again that I wasn't around at the beginning of this thread.


do you suggest switching over to bfs even if I am not having core flux issues? I will try it on a box to check tpf just in case... it would be cool if it lowered them lol...
 
do you suggest switching over to bfs even if I am not having core flux issues? I will try it on a box to check tpf just in case... it would be cool if it lowered them lol...
Absolutely. I never had core flux issues with A2 or A3 but TPF was always noticeably better using BFS vs. CFS.
 
Patriot,

I went to try it - the linux_ck site didn't have a package for AMD64 ... :(

Standard Ubuntu Server 10.10 I had no issues with at all - did a couple of frames at 22:01. If I want to try BFS it's going to be patch the source and build a custom kernel. That is going to be an exercise for next week - but I'm not expecting any improvement over what I'm seeing.

Also going to test if running Fah off of a tmpfs does anything for ppd.

H.
 
Patriot,

I went to try it - the linux_ck site didn't have a package for AMD64 ... :(

Standard Ubuntu Server 10.10 I had no issues with at all - did a couple of frames at 22:01. If I want to try BFS it's going to be patch the source and build a custom kernel. That is going to be an exercise for next week - but I'm not expecting any improvement over what I'm seeing.

Also going to test if running Fah off of a tmpfs does anything for ppd.

H.

I don't think musky is running 32bit... I am pretty sure its one package to rule them all ... I will give it a shot on my ubuntu box in a min if you like...
 
I don't think musky is running 32bit... I am pretty sure its one package to rule them all ... I will give it a shot on my ubuntu box in a min if you like...

I'm sure Musky is on 64 bit, but there are different "standard" kernels for Intel vs AMD, I have the AMD64 kernel, he, and you, will have x86_64 kernels. linux_ck doesn't appear to have the pre-built kernels with BFS for AMD64, just x86_64.

I'll test the BFS on AMD64, but it looks like I'll be switching from OpenSuSE to Ubuntu however the test turns out - Ubuntu on a laptop SATA drive got the same tpf as SuSE on the SSD.

H.
 
unless they are doing something special.... the 64bit should be amd compat...

in linux 64 is shown as AMD64... because the intel is made to be compatable with it...

anyhow... I am at home... at home my main beasty is amd x6.... my backup is my ol Q6600... but my other two test rigs are amds... phenom II x4 and athlon x2
bryan@foldingfodder:~$ uname -a
Linux foldingfodder 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19 20:32:27 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
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Patriot,

You'd expect it to be compatible - but the "sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-ck" gives a 404 with a no path to ....\AMD64\... so I'm assuming it's architecture specific. If you find a work around - please share :)

H.
 
I am on fedora (only one I have tried that works with internet/my monitor out of the box)

If I try
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chogydan/ppa && sudo apt-get update
it bitches - will not accept my password (either dave's or my password for root) Sorry try again, or "dave is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."

In a terminal I log on as root,
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chogydan/ppa && sudo apt-get update
sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found

????? Stuck.


I'd just like to thank you guys for encouraging MIBW to try Linux, which allowed me to finally(?!) overtake him for #20 on the team. :D

I think you will stay ahead - not folding much at the moment. No work, tightening belt. :(
 
MIBW,

You have to update python to make add-apt-repository work:

sudo apt-get install python-software-properties

H.
 
Patriot,

You'd expect it to be compatible - but the "sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-ck" gives a 404 with a no path to ....\AMD64\... so I'm assuming it's architecture specific. If you find a work around - please share :)

H.

just to make sure.... what does "uname -a" print out for you

I am trying it now....
 
Hmmm, total linux noob here, thanks for your patience- I type that into a terminal and get:

sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
sudo: apt-get: command not found
 
Hmmm, total linux noob here, thanks for your patience- I type that into a terminal and get:

sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
sudo: apt-get: command not found

what distro you on?

apt-get is the default package manager for Debian...

yum for suse etc...

though you can install apt-get on whatever distro your on....
 
Worked fine for me...

bryan@foldingfodder:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chogydan/ppa && sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for bryan:
Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv B0AA6C4840A025DF2D10922259A5476C3644FE29
gpg: requesting key 3644FE29 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpg: key 3644FE29: public key "Launchpad sensors-applet" imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: imported: 1 (RSA: 1)
Get:1 http://downloadue.info lucid Release.gpg
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Fetched 19.0kB in 1s (14.3kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
bryan@foldingfodder:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-ck linux-headers-generic-ck
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
linux-headers-2.6.35-25 linux-headers-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
Suggested packages:
fdutils linux-doc-2.6.35 linux-source-2.6.35 linux-tools
The following NEW packages will be installed:
linux-headers-2.6.35-25 linux-headers-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
linux-headers-generic-ck linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
linux-image-generic-ck
0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 415 not upgraded.
Need to get 45.4MB of archives.
After this operation, 229MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/chogydan/ppa/ubuntu/ maverick/main linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic-ck amd64 2.6.35-25.44~ppa4 [34.3MB]
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Get:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/chogydan/ppa/ubuntu/ maverick/main linux-image-generic-ck amd64 2.6.35.25.32~ppa2 [5,420B]
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Selecting previously deselected package linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic-ck.
(Reading database ... 525329 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic-ck (from .../linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic-ck_2.6.35-25.44~ppa4_amd64.deb) ...
Done.

Selecting previously deselected package linux-headers-2.6.35-25.
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Selecting previously deselected package linux-headers-2.6.35-25-generic-ck.
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Setting up linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic-ck (2.6.35-25.44~ppa4) ...
Running depmod.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 2.6.35-25-generic-ck /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
* dkms: running auto installation service for kernel 2.6.35-25-generic-ck
* fglrx (8.821)... [ OK ]
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 2.6.35-25-generic-ck /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common 2.6.35-25-generic-ck /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/pm-utils 2.6.35-25-generic-ck /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/update-notifier 2.6.35-25-generic-ck /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 2.6.35-25-generic-ck /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
done
Setting up linux-headers-2.6.35-25 (2.6.35-25.44) ...
Setting up linux-headers-2.6.35-25-generic-ck (2.6.35-25.44~ppa4) ...
Examining /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 2.6.35-25-generic-ck /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
* dkms: running auto installation service for kernel 2.6.35-25-generic-ck
* fglrx (8.821)... [ OK ]
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/nvidia-common 2.6.35-25-generic-ck /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic-ck
Setting up linux-headers-generic-ck (2.6.35.25.32~ppa2) ...
Setting up linux-image-generic-ck (2.6.35.25.32~ppa2) ...
bryan@foldingfodder:~$ init6
 
MIBW,

Fedora uses rpm for it's package management rather than apt. The apt instructions won't work. Either install a Debian based distro (ie Ubuntu server) or google for BFS RPM install. The Ubuntu method is going to be quicker/easier.

H.
 
did you add the repo first?

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chogydan/ppa && sudo apt-get update

then
sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-ck linux-headers-generic-ck
 
I just realized that BFS is the default scheduler on Zenwalk 6.4+ and PCLinuxOS 2010 - might be a distro to try for those having issue patching their kernels.
 
I just realized that BFS is the default scheduler on Zenwalk 6.4+ and PCLinuxOS 2010 - might be a distro to try for those having issue patching their kernels.

also the Zen kernels for centOS
 
Patriot,

Dependency hell drives me even crazier than dll hell ......

IMHO: RPM or APT, the conflicts and dependencies are the reason there are so many linux noobs. Single task machines can be bad enough, making a useable desktop - ugh.

H.
 
Patriot,

Dependency hell drives me even crazier than dll hell ......

IMHO: RPM or APT, the conflicts and dependencies are the reason there are so many linux noobs. Single task machines can be bad enough, making a useable desktop - ugh.

H.

I tell you ... installed right away on my ulitmate edition 2.8 lol ....

not um came back up after the reboot... but small steps... lol..
 
Patriot,

Link for a BFS pre-built kernel ? Or did you install an APT rpm, then go that way ?

H.
 
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