Like every LG phone...The resale value on this phone is going to be terrible.
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Like every LG phone...The resale value on this phone is going to be terrible.
The resale value on this phone is going to be terrible.
As opposed to Shamu? Or how about Pixel?
When charging $700+ for a phone, seeing $200-300 trade in discounts before the phone is even released points to low resale value.
Pixel was just released and not running massive discount sales.
Hell the Galaxy s7 is just 7 months old & when new it was 670 dollars & now you can buy it used for 360..
When they came out it was BOGO. $670 for TWO of them, which immediately killed resale value. The smart people waited and got them a few weeks later for $450-500, from people wanting a quick sale.
Just don't buy a phone when it first comes out
The phone cost 700? So I will probably drop to 400 or 500.
Trading in a phone that I paid $50 for on ebay for $200 is pretty sweet. Throw in $150 earbuds is even sweeter. Makes it a $480 phone. Not too shabby. Sell it in a year for $300-$350 and its a no brainer.
How does it feel in the hand?I walked out like a bandit from Sprint...
$792 retail, $33/month for 24 months payment plan.
Because I've been a sucker on Sprint so many years....they automatically knocked off the payment plan to $23USD...saving my 30% off the phone outright before rebates.
Now my old L900 Note 2 in the morgue I never threw out counts as worth $10USD....knock another $200 off in that rebate.
My v20 ends up costing half retail value.....and then there's the headphone deal too.
How does it feel in the hand?
How does it feel in the hand?
People are reporting that the glass over the camera lens cracks easily. Be careful using the flash as a flashlight.
I just saw this from a review. JerryRigEverything recommends you don't take off the plastic protector on camera lens.
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Got it tonight....just finished setup.
I'm used to Shamu Nexus 6....which is a huge phone....v20 feels good, with a light/medium case on it is about the same size as Shamu is naked. Performance wise, I don't notice I'm using a skinned Android much at all. There's 3 themes, one of which is dark and works well-it is basically like running Substratum. DPI scaling works well. I dig it. Running Adguard, this is the first Android I've bought that I didn't want to go will-nilly rooting and ROMing, because there's not much there I miss unrooted. Sprint allows all their bloatware to either be disabled or uninstalled.
I'll just mention that in the month plus of this phone being out....and 10,000+ confirmed handsets in the wild (based on number of registers for free earbuds) there have only been 3 known instances of this. As of now, mountain out of molehilll.
But I ain't cocky...that camera protector is staying on there.
I'm going to try to get my V20 today. My JUMP isn't ready until tomorrow but I think I'm going to give them call just to see if they can make an exception. 10 hours shouldn't matter.
Speaking of Adguard this just hit the Android Community in the last few days:
F-Droid
Open source VPN ad blocker that blocks on the DNS level. So only DNS queries are filtered. Traffic isn't. Much better solution and much faster Internet on the phone. Plus with it being open source it's easier to audit and verify nothing shady going on behind the scenes. Also means a user certificate isn't needed to filter ads when site is using HTTPS.
Now it is missing functionality at the moment. Like no easy way to whitelist a site or prevent an app from going through the VPN. All of that is coming though supposedly. The developer so far is being very responsive. Seems like he really wants to make this the best non-root adblocker out there.
Finally got my V20 today. My JUMP wasn't ready until Saturday so it was sold out everywhere. I finally managed to find a store today that had ONE in stock.
Man I love this device. No more needs to be said. It's just pure quality. It's too bad LG isn't pushing this device more because the only phone I'd want over this one right now would be Pixel and honestly I'm going to be more than happy with V20 for a nice long while.
EDIT: Side note I'm so far quite happy with DNS66 versus Adguard. A few little bugs that need to be worked around but nothing show stopping.
Yea thanks for that DNS66 link...only catch is that it tends to interfere with APK downloads....but the battery drain is basically zero unlike AdGuard
The DAC on this thing seriously is as good if not better than my sig rig Essence STX with rolled opamps. Texture, resolution, staging, it is damned good nvm that it is in a phone (Neutron music player with HD595s and FLAC).
Gripe list:
-LG bricked SystemUI tuner...which is just punk. Not huge, just punk.
-Have an odd WiFi-toggling-off problem...tried most options in WiFi and power saving to no avail.
-LG dialer does not appear to include business white-page lookup from the search field. Again. Punk.
Otherwise that is it.
People are reporting that the glass over the camera lens cracks easily. Be careful using the flash as a flashlight.
I just saw this from a review. JerryRigEverything recommends you don't take off the plastic protector on camera lens.
I don't understand why manufactures have to raise camera up off the back surface. Apple did it with the iPhone 7 and LG with the V20. I'm sure I'm missing many more.
Anytime you lay the phone down without the case it's going to rest on the camera lens and potentially damage it like the video shows. Completely stupid design!
looks good, but for the price, I would expect it to be build better.
What's wrong with the build quality? I find it to be quite good. Feels good in hand. Feels very premium being aluminum. Features other devices don't have (SDcard, removable battery). Small bezels. Great screen. Very fast. Clean interface that's been left alone for a lot of it.
So what exactly needs to be better?
Just checking back on the V10, one can be had for less than $300-350 used and about $450 new.
More than a 50% loss in resale value in less than a year. I had my 6 Plus for two years and sold it for $400 used.