LG V20

Skripka said:
As opposed to Shamu? Or how about Pixel?
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Just checking back on the V10, one can be had for less than $300-350 used and about $450 new.
More than a 50% loss in resale value in less than a year. I had my 6 Plus for two years and sold it for $400 used.
 
WorldExclusive said:
When charging $700+ for a phone, seeing $200-300 trade in discounts before the phone is even released points to low resale value.
Pixel was just released and not running massive discount sales.
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The only consumer products that tend to hold value are Apple ones.
 
Seriously... Resale value on a phone.. Its fucking android. There is not much your going to get for ANY. Hell the Galaxy s7 is just 7 months old & when new it was 670 dollars & now you can buy it used for 360.. Thats almost 50 percent loss in 7 months from a flagship phone from what was regarded as the best android manufacturer.. Just as whats said above the only phones that resale is even somewhat decent on is iPhones. Nothing else at all should you be buying with hopes of getting half your money back in a year.
 
bastage said:
Hell the Galaxy s7 is just 7 months old & when new it was 670 dollars & now you can buy it used for 360..
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When they came out it was BOGO. $670 for TWO of them, which immediately killed resale value. The smart people waited and got them a few weeks later for $450-500, from people wanting a quick sale.
 
entropism said:
When they came out it was BOGO. $670 for TWO of them, which immediately killed resale value. The smart people waited and got them a few weeks later for $450-500, from people wanting a quick sale.
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So. It doesn't matter what killed resale value, the fact is that the resale still sucks. Show me any mainstream Android phone that the resale doesn't suck on.
 
I dunno I just sold a 2yr old phone for $200 and I thought that's pretty good
 
Trading in a phone that I paid $50 for on ebay for $200 is pretty sweet. Throw in $150 earbuds is even sweeter. Makes it a $480 phone. Not too shabby. Sell it in a year for $300-$350 and its a no brainer.
 
g1xx3r said:
Trading in a phone that I paid $50 for on ebay for $200 is pretty sweet. Throw in $150 earbuds is even sweeter. Makes it a $480 phone. Not too shabby. Sell it in a year for $300-$350 and its a no brainer.
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I walked out like a bandit from Sprint...

$792 retail, $33/month for 24 months payment plan.

Because I've been a sucker on Sprint so many years....they automatically knocked off the payment plan to $23USD...saving my 30% off the phone outright before rebates.

Now my old L900 Note 2 in the morgue I never threw out counts as worth $10USD....knock another $200 off in that rebate.



My v20 ends up costing half retail value.....and then there's the headphone deal too.
 
I got my v20 from Tmo, EIP of 30 a mo. Getting the 200 off and the headphones which ill resell. I have much nicer headphones than these. I have already tried the phone with nice cans and it sounds great. If I can get 100 for the included buds ill be into this phone for about 500. Not bad overall after rebate. I dont care what resell is, as ill use this thing till it dies or I get the itch to upgrade to something better.
 
Skripka said:
I walked out like a bandit from Sprint...

$792 retail, $33/month for 24 months payment plan.

Because I've been a sucker on Sprint so many years....they automatically knocked off the payment plan to $23USD...saving my 30% off the phone outright before rebates.

Now my old L900 Note 2 in the morgue I never threw out counts as worth $10USD....knock another $200 off in that rebate.



My v20 ends up costing half retail value.....and then there's the headphone deal too.
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How does it feel in the hand?
 
People are reporting that the glass over the camera lens cracks easily. Be careful using the flash as a flashlight.


I just saw this from a review. JerryRigEverything recommends you don't take off the plastic protector on camera lens.

 
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123Lanoix said:
How does it feel in the hand?
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Wasn't allowed to go home with one... Later that day the shipment of stock came in... But Sprint corporate doesn't want that shipment used for preorders. Groan.

Probably not until Friday. Because Sprint are tards.
 
123Lanoix said:
How does it feel in the hand?
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Got it tonight....just finished setup.

I'm used to Shamu Nexus 6....which is a huge phone....v20 feels good, with a light/medium case on it is about the same size as Shamu is naked. Performance wise, I don't notice I'm using a skinned Android much at all. There's 3 themes, one of which is dark and works well-it is basically like running Substratum. DPI scaling works well. I dig it. Running Adguard, this is the first Android I've bought that I didn't want to go will-nilly rooting and ROMing, because there's not much there I miss unrooted. Sprint allows all their bloatware to either be disabled or uninstalled.

Rylan said:
People are reporting that the glass over the camera lens cracks easily. Be careful using the flash as a flashlight.



I just saw this from a review. JerryRigEverything recommends you don't take off the plastic protector on camera lens.
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I'll just mention that in the month plus of this phone being out....and 10,000+ confirmed handsets in the wild (based on number of registers for free earbuds) there have only been 3 known instances of this. As of now, mountain out of molehilll.

But I ain't cocky...that camera protector is staying on there.
 
Skripka said:
Got it tonight....just finished setup.

I'm used to Shamu Nexus 6....which is a huge phone....v20 feels good, with a light/medium case on it is about the same size as Shamu is naked. Performance wise, I don't notice I'm using a skinned Android much at all. There's 3 themes, one of which is dark and works well-it is basically like running Substratum. DPI scaling works well. I dig it. Running Adguard, this is the first Android I've bought that I didn't want to go will-nilly rooting and ROMing, because there's not much there I miss unrooted. Sprint allows all their bloatware to either be disabled or uninstalled.



I'll just mention that in the month plus of this phone being out....and 10,000+ confirmed handsets in the wild (based on number of registers for free earbuds) there have only been 3 known instances of this. As of now, mountain out of molehilll.

But I ain't cocky...that camera protector is staying on there.
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I'm going to try to get my V20 today. My JUMP isn't ready until tomorrow but I think I'm going to give them call just to see if they can make an exception. 10 hours shouldn't matter. :p

Speaking of Adguard this just hit the Android Community in the last few days:

F-Droid

Open source VPN ad blocker that blocks on the DNS level. So only DNS queries are filtered. Traffic isn't. Much better solution and much faster Internet on the phone. Plus with it being open source it's easier to audit and verify nothing shady going on behind the scenes. Also means a user certificate isn't needed to filter ads when site is using HTTPS.

Now it is missing functionality at the moment. Like no easy way to whitelist a site or prevent an app from going through the VPN. All of that is coming though supposedly. The developer so far is being very responsive. Seems like he really wants to make this the best non-root adblocker out there.
 
Vermillion said:
I'm going to try to get my V20 today. My JUMP isn't ready until tomorrow but I think I'm going to give them call just to see if they can make an exception. 10 hours shouldn't matter. :p

Speaking of Adguard this just hit the Android Community in the last few days:

F-Droid

Open source VPN ad blocker that blocks on the DNS level. So only DNS queries are filtered. Traffic isn't. Much better solution and much faster Internet on the phone. Plus with it being open source it's easier to audit and verify nothing shady going on behind the scenes. Also means a user certificate isn't needed to filter ads when site is using HTTPS.

Now it is missing functionality at the moment. Like no easy way to whitelist a site or prevent an app from going through the VPN. All of that is coming though supposedly. The developer so far is being very responsive. Seems like he really wants to make this the best non-root adblocker out there.
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WARNING:

The $200 rebate promo for TMo expired last night. You can still file for the $150USD headphones (while supplies last, I'm 10,000th in line or so literally-and I filed last night).


Might give a go at that blocker...Adguard is clicking fine-haven't paid for it yet-going to milk my trial out


One of the LG themes is a dark-minimal one....resembles a dark-grak/black AOSP Material with the stock Google statusbar icons. Font theming works-for those that hate Roboto (like me)
 
Finally got my V20 today. My JUMP wasn't ready until Saturday so it was sold out everywhere. I finally managed to find a store today that had ONE in stock.

Man I love this device. No more needs to be said. It's just pure quality. It's too bad LG isn't pushing this device more because the only phone I'd want over this one right now would be Pixel and honestly I'm going to be more than happy with V20 for a nice long while.

EDIT: Side note I'm so far quite happy with DNS66 versus Adguard. A few little bugs that need to be worked around but nothing show stopping.
 
Vermillion said:
Finally got my V20 today. My JUMP wasn't ready until Saturday so it was sold out everywhere. I finally managed to find a store today that had ONE in stock.

Man I love this device. No more needs to be said. It's just pure quality. It's too bad LG isn't pushing this device more because the only phone I'd want over this one right now would be Pixel and honestly I'm going to be more than happy with V20 for a nice long while.

EDIT: Side note I'm so far quite happy with DNS66 versus Adguard. A few little bugs that need to be worked around but nothing show stopping.
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Yea thanks for that DNS66 link...only catch is that it tends to interfere with APK downloads....but the battery drain is basically zero unlike AdGuard

The DAC on this thing seriously is as good if not better than my sig rig Essence STX with rolled opamps. Texture, resolution, staging, it is damned good nvm that it is in a phone (Neutron music player with HD595s and FLAC).


Gripe list:
-LG bricked SystemUI tuner...which is just punk. Not huge, just punk.
-Have an odd WiFi-toggling-off problem...tried most options in WiFi and power saving to no avail.
-LG dialer does not appear to include business white-page lookup from the search field. Again. Punk.

Otherwise that is it.
 
Skripka said:
Yea thanks for that DNS66 link...only catch is that it tends to interfere with APK downloads....but the battery drain is basically zero unlike AdGuard

The DAC on this thing seriously is as good if not better than my sig rig Essence STX with rolled opamps. Texture, resolution, staging, it is damned good nvm that it is in a phone (Neutron music player with HD595s and FLAC).


Gripe list:
-LG bricked SystemUI tuner...which is just punk. Not huge, just punk.
-Have an odd WiFi-toggling-off problem...tried most options in WiFi and power saving to no avail.
-LG dialer does not appear to include business white-page lookup from the search field. Again. Punk.

Otherwise that is it.
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Yeah he's been working on the downloads thing and has already worked around the Play Store. There is a bug about it on Github. Looks like it's actually a Nougat bug when using a VPN because the issue isn't limited to only DNS66. I'm actually tempted to fork it and play with the code and add back to Master. We'll see if I can find the time to do that though. I'd love to contribute though.

I actually haven't had a chance to fire up headphones just yet on my V20. Been too busy tonight. Phone is hardly setup lol. Still adding apps back to it and restoring data from my backups.
 
Rylan said:
People are reporting that the glass over the camera lens cracks easily. Be careful using the flash as a flashlight.


I just saw this from a review. JerryRigEverything recommends you don't take off the plastic protector on camera lens.

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I don't understand why manufactures have to raise camera up off the back surface. Apple did it with the iPhone 7 and LG with the V20. I'm sure I'm missing many more.
Anytime you lay the phone down without the case it's going to rest on the camera lens and potentially damage it like the video shows. Completely stupid design!
 
Nirad9er said:
I don't understand why manufactures have to raise camera up off the back surface. Apple did it with the iPhone 7 and LG with the V20. I'm sure I'm missing many more.
Anytime you lay the phone down without the case it's going to rest on the camera lens and potentially damage it like the video shows. Completely stupid design!
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They wager that most people would prefer an overall thinner phone....they also wager that most people will be using cases anyway.

So far in over 25,000+ USA-only v20s sold....there are only maybe 6 confirmed instances of glass cracking. This doesn't even include the v20s in the wild being sold in Korea for over a calendar month. Looking back, Nexus 6P had a similar "shattergate" that was blown out of proportion on release too.
 
Really liking this phone so far. I miss the screen size a bit from my nexus 6, but everything and I mean everything else is superior on the v20.
 
liiroy said:
looks good, but for the price, I would expect it to be build better.
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What's wrong with the build quality? I find it to be quite good. Feels good in hand. Feels very premium being aluminum. Features other devices don't have (SDcard, removable battery). Small bezels. Great screen. Very fast. Clean interface that's been left alone for a lot of it.

So what exactly needs to be better?
 
Vermillion said:
What's wrong with the build quality? I find it to be quite good. Feels good in hand. Feels very premium being aluminum. Features other devices don't have (SDcard, removable battery). Small bezels. Great screen. Very fast. Clean interface that's been left alone for a lot of it.

So what exactly needs to be better?
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just a personal preference, seems rather fragile.
 
Ordered one on Verizon on Sunday, picked it up Tuesday from FedEx. Using my thumbprint to unlock it is handy. Can tell the difference when streaming Pandora when using the DAC vs not (and its low quality Pandora on cheap earbuds.) The quick charge is nice, need to get a car and travel charger so I can quick charge on the go. I find the second screen to be useful. Double-tap to unlock/lock is cool too. Picked up a Poetic case, has built-in screen protector without the Otterbox tax. I'll have to check the packaging but I don't believe this came with headphones like Samsung or iPhones (outside of the B&O offer, which I did not jump on).
I feel bad dumping my Samsung Galaxy S4. I mean, I love this new phone, but my old Samsung had a removable battery, SD card, and is still rock solid after 2.5 years and there is nothing wrong with it. Will have to donate it to a worthy cause.
 
WorldExclusive said:
Just checking back on the V10, one can be had for less than $300-350 used and about $450 new.
More than a 50% loss in resale value in less than a year. I had my 6 Plus for two years and sold it for $400 used.
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I bought the V20 used yesterday (Verizon unlocked, using on T-Mobile) for $250 USD. Came with a pack of new screen protectors, a Spigen Rugged Armor case, and the original box/packing. Should be a solid upgrade to my G4, just waiting on my tempered glass to come in tomorrow before using the phone regularly.
 
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