LG Unveils Its 1st QNED Mini LED TV with Up to 2500 Dimming Zones

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Just wondering are any of this new tv better than the plasma tv or laser tv?
Dolby Vision (and I would guess the Samsung equivalent) is pretty stunning.

if you buy one of the top performing models, they can get uncomfortably bright in some scenes. They can also create neon/pastel colors because of the increased brightness range.
 

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The biggest weakness I've found so far in OLED - it completely exposes how TRASH (even 4K) streams are. Rambo:Last Blood on Amazon looked horrible in certain scenes this weekend. It's stuff you never notice on a typical LCD or (I can assume) plasma.
Yep. (hugs his Blu ray discs) Streaming just can't compare.
 

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MiniLED's are probably the best of breed right now for LCD TV technology...Oled is still Oled but OLED doesn't get very bright due to the nature of how it produces its image, and you absolutely can get burn in......and the problem with burn in is once you see it, you'll never, ever unsee it......so its like, do you risk it? A lot of people do, and they wind up just fine. Some people do it, and they get the image retention/burn in...sometimes it clears, sometimes not...lots of factors in play at that point, but OLED still produces true blacks like CRT's used to, which even the best LED LCD cannot claim to do.
it would be cool if Dual LCD were possible to be cheap like miniLED. very similar in quality to OLED and it can do bright but, only at the low low price of $40,000
 

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it would be cool if Dual LCD were possible to be cheap like miniLED. very similar in quality to OLED and it can do bright but, only at the low low price of $40,000
The only reason dual-LCD is expensive is because they are only available as reference monitors. I don't think anybody has bothered trying to make one for the consumer space, but it would be interesting to see. Those can reach 4000 nits or higher, which is still much higher than what current mini LED can do.
 

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I really don't see the point in buying an 8K TV unless all you do is watch movies (Do they even make 8K Blu Ray's or Players?) Besides that, the infrastructure here in the US doesn't even support 1080P over the air much less 4 or 8K.
 

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The only reason dual-LCD is expensive is because they are only available as reference monitors. I don't think anybody has bothered trying to make one for the consumer space, but it would be interesting to see. Those can reach 4000 nits or higher, which is still much higher than what current mini LED can do.
Nah there's a lot of cost to them. A big one is just, well, two panels. The panel is a non-trivial part of the cost of a TV/monitor and you need two of them to make a dual-LCD. Another is that they are inefficient as hell, they need a lot of light to deal with the two panels so you tend to need some big backlights which increases cost and power consumption.

They'd be cheaper if mass produced for sure, but probably not cheap like you think, they'd be decidedly high end products.
 

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I really don't see the point in buying an 8K TV unless all you do is watch movies (Do they even make 8K Blu Ray's or Players?) Besides that, the infrastructure here in the US doesn't even support 1080P over the air much less 4 or 8K.
Supposedly they are going to start broadcasting 8K over the air in Japan, but that will absolutely never happen in the US. As of now there is no delivery medium, physical or otherwise, that is sufficient for 8K media. I still say that with the prevalence of USB on televisions that we should just ditch the idea of optical drives entirely and start delivering video content on USB drives. UHD Blu-ray discs are actually more expensive in bulk than 64GB USB flash drives are these days.
 

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The biggest weakness I've found so far in OLED - it completely exposes how TRASH (even 4K) streams are. Rambo:Last Blood on Amazon looked horrible in certain scenes this weekend. It's stuff you never notice on a typical LCD or (I can assume) plasma.
OLEDs also make CGI in live action movies really stick out and look bad. Still it is not possible to go back to anything else after owning a OLED. When I was at my brother's house over the holidays he got one of those cheap crappy 70" LG LCDs and made my eyes bleed.
 

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Nah there's a lot of cost to them. A big one is just, well, two panels. The panel is a non-trivial part of the cost of a TV/monitor and you need two of them to make a dual-LCD. Another is that they are inefficient as hell, they need a lot of light to deal with the two panels so you tend to need some big backlights which increases cost and power consumption.

They'd be cheaper if mass produced for sure, but probably not cheap like you think, they'd be decidedly high end products.
Yea if I remember correct those reference dual lcd monitors consume something like 300w for just a 30" or something. I can't imagine how much power a 55 or big would it consume.
 

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The biggest weakness I've found so far in OLED - it completely exposes how TRASH (even 4K) streams are. Rambo:Last Blood on Amazon looked horrible in certain scenes this weekend. It's stuff you never notice on a typical LCD or (I can assume) plasma.
From everything I've read, the 4K streams still aren't as good as 4K Blu-Rays in HDR (Dolby Vision, etc). I looked at a side-by-side comparison of the Star Wars Original Trilogy recently, and the streams have that grey, washed-out look. 4K HDR looked incredibly vivid and vibrant (especially in monitors that met the DisplayHDR 1000 [or better] standard, as well as OLED).
 

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if you can afford $40,000 or so DUAL LCD is VERY impressive, goes toe to toe with OLED and then some.

Not really. The viewing angles are terrible, the size is super small, and the power usage is insane. It's only good as a mastering monitor which is its intended use.
 

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Dolby Vision (and I would guess the Samsung equivalent) is pretty stunning.

if you buy one of the top performing models, they can get uncomfortably bright in some scenes. They can also create neon/pastel colors because of the increased brightness range.
I had to install an 85" Samsung into our main conference room paired with a Logitech Meetup, and it is the most beautiful TV I have ever used. I now need one for my living room and despite the wife's claims that it is too big and won't fit I assure her that it will, and she will come to like it.
 

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I had to install an 85" Samsung into our main conference room paired with a Logitech Meetup, and it is the most beautiful TV I have ever used. I now need one for my living room and despite the wife's claims that it is too big and won't fit I assure her that it will, and she will come to like it.

You worded it like that on purpose. :ROFLMAO:
 
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