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LG L246W

So I finally decided to drop 700 bucks the for monitor, tax, warranty and what not. I got a small discount from the open box, but it was all the store had.

My L246W has 0 dead pixels, and the colors are awesome out of the box, very little adjustment was needed. The size is awesome. However the ghosting in (for example) WC3 seems about the same as my old 8ms Samsung 204b (I was hoping for better). However in an FPS like UT2004 it seems a little better, so overall I still wish their was less ghosting.
Last gripe: The blacks are pretty bad, maybe it's just me. But certain things look kind of off. The black is its blackest at a brightness setting of around 63 and below. Does anyone know if theres any way to get better blacks? Or should I suck it up because this is the best 24" available? Or should I look into a different monitor for less ghosting/better blacks.
I'm not sure the best way to calibrate my monitor.
 
Blacks only look really good in sRGB mode because you can turn the brightness (backlight) down to a comfortable level without crushing the blacks. It's a bit odd that the other color temp settings don't deliver good blacks. You will need to adjust color, contrast and gamma with your video card control panel because sRGB will only let you adjust brightness on the monitor itself. Other controls are greyed out.
 
I have build date Jan 2007.. is there any benefit to the newer build dates (I've seen Feb and March mentioned on the thread). The only problem I have is slight cropping on my PS3.. otherwise it's fine.

Second, Best Buy dropped the price to 499 again.

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Does anyone else have the power saving mode issue when having their 360 connected by HDMI to the monitor? When I switch from RGB to HDMI to play my 360, the screen turns on power saving mode. The only way to get out of this is either reconnect the HDMI cables or turn off/on the monitor. It's not horrible but it's annoying.

Also does anyone have recommendation on speakers to connect to the monitors audio jack (for my 360)? The speakers I have (which are decent) right now have a lot of distortion and it's driving me nuts when I play games - unless I'm doing something wrong that I'm not aware of.

Anyways seeing that the BB price is back down to $500 I'd jump on the deal. Got this monitor when it was at that price earlier and love it - albeit the minor annoyances.
 
Can someone with an nvidia card help me configure my monitor is RGB mode to get better blacks? What should I set the brightness to on the monitor, and then what should the brightness/contrast/gamma be on the nvidia drivers.
 
M4573R said:
Can someone with an nvidia card help me configure my monitor is RGB mode to get better blacks? What should I set the brightness to on the monitor, and then what should the brightness/contrast/gamma be on the nvidia drivers.
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In sRGB mode, set the brightness on the monitor to around 15-20 at first. In the Nvidia control panel, here are my color, gamma and contrast settings:

Brightness - adjust for each color channel:

Red 50%
Green 52%
Blue 42%

Contrast - adjust for all channels

Contrast 55%

Gamma - adjust for all channels

Gamma 48%

Keep in mind I calibrated to 6500k by eye, so it's not the most accurate but looks pretty good. You can raise the Contrast setting higher to get more punch. Adjust brightness on the monitor to taste. A lower brightness setting means darker blacks. If you need more shadow detail, raise the gamma setting higher but not too much from 48%.

Be sure to apply these settings and then save the color profile.
 
dark_reign said:
You can switch it manually under Menu >> Screen >> ARC >> 1:1.
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Yes, I realize this -- but the option is grayed out and unselectable. I can only select "Full." (My panel is from Jan 2007 -- I'm returning it today and will be getting a new one, but I'd like to know that it is possible to have a HDMI PC-mode with 1:1 scaling)
 
Those settings seem to make everything pretty dark. It feels like I'm losing some vibrancy.
 
antioch said:
Yes, I realize this -- but the option is grayed out and unselectable. I can only select "Full." (My panel is from Jan 2007 -- I'm returning it today and will be getting a new one, but I'd like to know that it is possible to have a HDMI PC-mode with 1:1 scaling)
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The option to change it is only possible when the monitor is not set to native screen resolution. If you drop to 1600x1200 it will allow you to change it.
 
dark_reign said:
The option to change it is only possible when the monitor is not set to native screen resolution. If you drop to 1600x1200 it will allow you to change it.
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It doesn't seem to. I'm at 1600x1200 now, with the drivers installed, hook up via DVI>HDMI, set to PC-mode. I can only select Full, 1:1 is grayed out... :confused:
 
If you're using a Nvidia video card make sure to let it use the monitor's built in scaling. It probably is already set to that but make sure. Aspect scaling within the Nvidia drivers doesn't seem to work for me which is why I'm stuck switching to 1:1 manually until they get this fixed.

I just switched to 1600x1200 and I can use 1:1. I get the black bars on the sides.
 
antioch said:
It doesn't seem to. I'm at 1600x1200 now, with the drivers installed, hook up via DVI>HDMI, set to PC-mode. I can only select Full, 1:1 is grayed out... :confused:
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Not Windows. Leave Windows at 1920x1200, then load a game at lower resolution.
While you are in the game with the lower resolution, the option will stop being greyed out.
 
I have my L245WMP for close to 3 months now IIRC.
All in all, love it.
My only problem is with the nvidia XP drivers, anything above 97.44 and the nvidia correct aspect scaling doesn't work, I even tried the so called solution with the enable overscan thingy by nvidia. What pisses me off is that Nvidia, in their drivers, don't consider this even an issue, and say it is fixed. Fixed my ass.
Under Vista it works, but not under XP.

Anyway, the monitor is almost perfect. Would be perfect if it had a build in correct aspect scaling for connecting it to a PC. When I connect my Xbox 360 to it, I has it, to my PC, no.

I wrote a review of sorts (nothing even close to professional mind you) and you can find it here
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11225

BUT, I am talking about the LG L245WMP, and not the LG L246W. Don't know if any differences exist between the two models apart from the different position of the buttons and the inclusion of removable speakers on the L245WMP.
 
if u purchased this last week when it was 599, go get a adjustment because its back on sale for 499!!!! just a heads up.
 
I tried one last weekend to replace my Dell 2407HC but in the end I returned it because of the buzzing sound it does in srgb mode when you increase brightness. Out of the box it look very good but too bright and as soon as you lower the brightness you got horrible blackcrush. The only mode without blackcrush is srgb but then the monitor emit a buzzing noise :mad:

There was no ghosting, very good monitor if someone doesn't care about noise.
 
You must have gotten a bad unit. Mine does not emit any noise and I have my brightness set at 15.
 
dark_reign said:
If you're using a Nvidia video card make sure to let it use the monitor's built in scaling. It probably is already set to that but make sure. Aspect scaling within the Nvidia drivers doesn't seem to work for me which is why I'm stuck switching to 1:1 manually until they get this fixed.

I just switched to 1600x1200 and I can use 1:1. I get the black bars on the sides.
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When I plug in my L246 the scaling option in the nVidia control panel disappears - but when I plug my Samsung 204B back in it reappears. I have the stock driver provided on the L246 CD installed... does anyone else have this problem?
 
This is interesting.
Yes, nvidia correct aspect scaling options don't really work under windowx XP since version 97.44


Didn't think to make a connectionb etween monitor and graphics card drivers before.


BUT, make sure that the DELL monitor doesn't support its own native scaling too.



AS for the noise in that monitor, sounds like a bad unit. My monitor does no noise at all, ever after days on. sRGB or not, changing brightness or not. No noise at all.
 
Hey guys, I'm new to the forums, but I've been watching this thread very closely as I was in the market for a new LCD 24" Widescreen. After checking everything out, from the BenQ to the Dell, to the Westinghouse, I finally settled on this badboy and I LOVE it.

Only problems I've had was with my 360 when I first got it. I hooked it up through component and it looked HORRENDOUS. After researching some more (mostly in this thread) I bought a VGA adapter and now my 360 looks perfect!

I'm extremely happy with this monitor.

But I do have a question. My 360 looked horrible in component, and I'm assuming if I decide to get a Wii that it will look horrible as well. Has anybody tried using a Wii on this monitor?

The Wii doesn't have an HDMI or VGA hookup, and the adapter to go from component to VGA seems expensive. But even if I did go that route of converting, would the quality still be just as bad as if I had it on component?

Any help would be awesome. I really want a Wii and I game on this monitor (no TV, too expensive, its why I got the monitor ;)).

Thanks in advance!
 
A Wii connected to a 24" widescreen HD monitor? Ouch.
Bare in mind Wii games are already jagged to death, low resolution games that look bad as they are. Component or VGA, it would be better to play Wii games on a SD TV instead of a large monitor.


As for the question regarding component and 360.
I tried it at first (although I had the vga cable for the 360) and I would definetely not call it horrible. It was less sharp than VGA, but nothing else.
Don't forget! When you connect this monitor through the component, you CANNOT get 1080p for the 360. So, it is possible when you did that, the 360 changed to a much lower resolution. I advice you to check and make sure, after you connect the 360 to this monitor, to go and change the display settings of the 360 to show 1080i.
I still changed it and have it plugged in my LG though the VGA connection, because I prefer 1080p, but definetely it doesn't look horrible under 1080i.
 
So I'm guessing there's no hope for a PS2 either =(

I'm using VGA with my 360 now, but I was using the component, I didn't change the settings on the system, so that might have been why it looked so bad. With the VGA it looks perfect though.

I was really hoping to use a Wii and PS2 on it =/
 
I think PS2 games will look better on it than Wii games.

I advice you even if you use VGA, to check the display settings to make sure you play at 1080p.
 
I'm having trouble getting the monitor and my Asus 8600GT (EN8600GT/HTDI/256M) working. It seems like the card thinks it's talking to a TV, as only TV resolutions (1280x720, 1920x1080, 1024x768) will actually fill the display. When I use 1920x1200, about 50% of the sides of the image are cut off. I've tried PC and Video modes on the monitor, which just seems to reposition the cropped screen.

I tried a PNY 8600GT and it works fine, so it seems specific to that Asus (probably because it has additional hardware to support HDMI).

Anyone with similar issues?
 
What graphics drivers do you have?
You might want to try to change the scaling from inside the drivers and see if that works.
Also, if you check the nvidia control panel there is an option "Treat as HDTV", perhaps try to change that to see if something changes. Always remember though to click on Apply after any change to take effect.
 
My PS2 looks normal over component on my LG L246W. I think games look marginally better when played on my HDMI PS3 through the emulation, but it works natively through component as well.
 
BlueMak said:
What graphics drivers do you have?
You might want to try to change the scaling from inside the drivers and see if that works.
Also, if you check the nvidia control panel there is an option "Treat as HDTV", perhaps try to change that to see if something changes. Always remember though to click on Apply after any change to take effect.
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I tried the 162.22 (latest release) and 163.67 (latest beta) on Vista. The scaling option was only active in 162.22; in 163.67 the choices were greyed out. I tried all of the scaling options without success.

I don't see a "treat as HDTV" option. Where is that in the control panel?

One interesting difference - in the "Change the signal or HD format", on the Asus the connection was listed as HDMI, while on the PNY it was listed as DVI.

At TV resolutions on the Asus, the text is pretty bad, which makes me think the card is optimizing for TV display.
 
bryanb said:
I'm having trouble getting the monitor and my Asus 8600GT (EN8600GT/HTDI/256M) working. It seems like the card thinks it's talking to a TV, as only TV resolutions (1280x720, 1920x1080, 1024x768) will actually fill the display. When I use 1920x1200, about 50% of the sides of the image are cut off. I've tried PC and Video modes on the monitor, which just seems to reposition the cropped screen.

I tried a PNY 8600GT and it works fine, so it seems specific to that Asus (probably because it has additional hardware to support HDMI).

Anyone with similar issues?
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I bought the L246 yesterday and noticed the same thing with 1:1 selected&HDMI input. I changed the monitor setting to full screen. Still working with the nvidia control panel settings though. I loaded Star Wars 3 dvd in 1920x1080 had 1/2" black bars on left and right switch back to 1920x1200 filled it out across. good luck
 
SpacionS said:
I bought the L246 yesterday and noticed the same thing with 1:1 selected&HDMI input. I changed the monitor setting to full screen. Still working with the nvidia control panel settings though. I loaded Star Wars 3 dvd in 1920x1080 had 1/2" black bars on left and right switch back to 1920x1200 filled it out across. good luck
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What video card are you using? On mine the start menu etc. are all cropped out at 1920x1200.
 
have you custom timings in your control panel set up to your prior display or something? I didn't see any release note troubles for the 8600gts and 1920x1200 resolution.
 
Akilae said:
But I do have a question. My 360 looked horrible in component, and I'm assuming if I decide to get a Wii that it will look horrible as well. Has anybody tried using a Wii on this monitor?

The Wii doesn't have an HDMI or VGA hookup, and the adapter to go from component to VGA seems expensive. But even if I did go that route of converting, would the quality still be just as bad as if I had it on component?

Any help would be awesome. I really want a Wii and I game on this monitor (no TV, too expensive, its why I got the monitor ;)).

Thanks in advance!
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Glad to hear you're enjoying the monitor. I do have a Wii and I do play it on this monitor -- I posted my impressions in this thread a while ago, but it seems that my post was lost in the server problems over the past couple of weeks. Bah.

Anyway, the short answer is this: the jaggies are definitely noticeable, but the color is very good and overall the jaggies aren't distracting enough to keep me from being happy. As usual, whether you like it or not really comes down to personal preference. I'm usually the type of person who's distracted over little things (e.g. I can't stop noticing the compression artifacts when watching HDTV), so I was pleasantly surprised that I didn't find the jaggies as distracting as I thought they would be. In general, I find that the more "cartoony" the game is supposed to be, the better it looks -- Wii sports looks great, while games like Zelda, which tries to be more realistic, definitely look worse (but are still very enjoyable to play). As BlueMak said, if you have an SDTV the blurring will probably make the jaggies less noticeable -- I suppose this is one of the downsides to using an LCD, all the artifacts become crystal clear. :) In my case, I have neither the room nor the cash for a second TV just for the Wii, but I'm very happy with the L246WP as an all-around solution.

One other point: unfortunately, since 480p is an amamorphic resolution, this monitor's aspect ratio controls do not work properly with the Wii. There's no way to display 480p over component at 16:9; the best you can do is let it stretch slightly vertically to fill 16:10. Again, on the Wii this doesn't bother me much, since the graphics aren't that realistic to begin with (watching HDTV stretched to 16:10 drives me crazy), but it's something to consider if you're a perfectionist.

Unfortunately, my digital camera is broken, so I can't take any pictures, but if you have any other questions I'll do my best to answer them.
 
SpacionS said:
have you custom timings in your control panel set up to your prior display or something? I didn't see any release note troubles for the 8600gts and 1920x1200 resolution.
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I think it's a specific problem with the 8600GT that supports HDMI. The PNY 8600GT which uses standard DVI (w/ HDCP) works fine. Does your 8600GTS support HDMI?

No custom timings by the way.
 
bryanb said:
I think it's a specific problem with the 8600GT that supports HDMI. The PNY 8600GT which uses standard DVI (w/ HDCP) works fine. Does your 8600GTS support HDMI?

No custom timings by the way.
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You may be right but the asus 8600 does support hdmi and hdcp. good luck, you will figure it out.
 
SpacionS said:
You may be right but the asus 8600 does support hdcp. good luck, you will figure it out.
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It's actually this one, which has HDMI support rather than DVI w/ HDCP. I believe this is the cause of the problem, which leads the card to think it's talking to a TV. Unfortunately I don't see any way in the Vista nVidia drivers to disable "Treat as HDTV".
 
bryanb said:
It's actually this one, which has HDMI support rather than DVI w/ HDCP. I believe this is the cause of the problem, which leads the card to think it's talking to a TV. Unfortunately I don't see any way in the Vista nVidia drivers to disable "Treat as HDTV".
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In the Nvvidia control panel, under Display, choose Manage custom resolutions.
You should now have two tick options, one of them is the HDTV one..
 
i was wondering:
the bad blacks everyone is talking about, do you mean that black isnt really black, but grey?
or do you also mean that you cant see any detail in dark scenes?

just the bad blacks, i perhaps could live with, but no detail in dark scenes means you cant see dark movies, cant play dark games... and that would really suck...
 
The bad blacks or poor black levels are only present under the User, 9300k and 6500k color temp settings. The problem is that you can't lower the brighness setting much lower than 63 without crushing the blacks. 63 is too high a setting resulting in a washed out appearance. I almost returned this monitor until I switched it to sRGB.

The sRGB setting allows you to drop the brightness setting on the monitor down to 0 without crushing the blacks. At 0 the blacks are very dark with no washout look. I set my brightness at 15 and get excellent blacks. You just need to calibrate via your video card CP for color, gamma and contrast.
 
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