LG 43UD79 Information?

[christal]

They have exactly the same panels, don`t know the reason for the price difference. Also, do not believe specs written somewhere, they are probably wrong. Check the LG site for information.

 

[levifig]

They have exactly the same panels, don`t know the reason for the price difference. Also, do not believe specs written somewhere, they are probably wrong. Check the LG site for information.

That was my assumption: hard to make identical panels differ only by 3ms GTG right? But that difference is the difference listed on LG’s site: MU is listed as 8ms GTG, and UD as 5ms GTG… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[QuantumBraced]

It's no longer available on Amazon. Is it end of life? The 43MU79-B is available instead, which seems to be the exact same monitor, but meant for enterprise, and at only $650. The 43UD79T is also available, which also seems to be the same monitor, but with a different stand. Can anyone confirm any of this?

 

[levifig]

It's no longer available on Amazon. Is it end of life? The 43MU79-B is available instead, which seems to be the exact same monitor, but meant for enterprise, and at only $650. The 43UD79T is also available, which also seems to be the same monitor, but with a different stand. Can anyone confirm any of this?

No, it's not end of life: it's simply out of stock. Check other websites and you'll get stock prediction (B&H, for example). Another monitor that has gone through the same short supply is the 32UD99-W.

As for the 43MU79-B, I bought one (I posted about that literally 3 posts above yours). Amazon.com never sold the 43UD79-B (it was always sold by 3rd-party sellers), and they listed their 43MU79-B first when you searched for the UD… which led me to order one in error. I'm still not sure I'll keep it because I doubt LG will release firmware updates/fixes as frequently as for the 43UD79-B. At the same time, from everything I've gathered, the MU has 8ms GTG vs 5ms GTG on the UD. I find that extremely odd, but I wonder if it has to do with firmware differences/optimizations (since the MU is the "business" version, with that ridiculous $2,200 MSRP), though I'm pretty certain the panel is exactly the same.

 

[Airjarhead]

Just got an email from Newegg...the LG 43" (MU model) Monitor is $550 with promo code:
http://promotions.newegg.com/neemai...0&et_p1=&email64=cmljay5iaXJ0QGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==
That deal might be too hard to pass up.

 

[Khadgar]

Just got an email from Newegg...the LG 43" (MU model) Monitor is $550 with promo code:
http://promotions.newegg.com/neemai...0&et_p1=&email64=cmljay5iaXJ0QGdtYWlsLmNvbQ==
That deal might be too hard to pass up.

Yeah, I'm tempted too, but based on what levifig said above, I'm thinking I'll wait until UD goes on sale instead.

For example, not seeing that 480Hz PWM firmware update for the MU. I wonder what else will be missed.

 

[levifig]

Yeah, I'm tempted too, but based on what levifig said above, I'm thinking I'll wait until UD goes on sale instead.

For example, not seeing that 480Hz PWM firmware update for the MU. I wonder what else will be missed.

Yeah: the panel looks absolutely identical, but I'm 90% sure I'll return the MU to make sure I don't miss on any firmware updates for the UD… Sucks that LG isn't coming out and saying something about that! I've tried reaching out to them to no avail. Will try again today…

 

[QuantumBraced]

No, it's not end of life: it's simply out of stock. Check other websites and you'll get stock prediction (B&H, for example). Another monitor that has gone through the same short supply is the 32UD99-W.

As for the 43MU79-B, I bought one (I posted about that literally 3 posts above yours). Amazon.com never sold the 43UD79-B (it was always sold by 3rd-party sellers), and they listed their 43MU79-B first when you searched for the UD… which led me to order one in error. I'm still not sure I'll keep it because I doubt LG will release firmware updates/fixes as frequently as for the 43UD79-B. At the same time, from everything I've gathered, the MU has 8ms GTG vs 5ms GTG on the UD. I find that extremely odd, but I wonder if it has to do with firmware differences/optimizations (since the MU is the "business" version, with that ridiculous $2,200 MSRP), though I'm pretty certain the panel is exactly the same.

Thank you very much, I should have read the previous posts more carefully.

Does anyone know anything about the 43UD78T? Is it just a different stand? I'm in the UK currently and I found it on Amazon for pre-order, it's substantially cheaper than the 43UD78-B here and I will be using a monitor arm, so the stand doesn't matter to me.

I'm also wondering if my AmazonBasics arm can support this monitor, it's 27.1 lbs and the arm officially supports up to 25 lbs... I guess I'll have to try and see. Worst case scenario it'll be resting on my desk, which may not be bad, perhaps easier to utilize the vertical space.

I've been planning this upgrade for half a year, it'll be a big change from my cheap Dell S2415H. Wondering if I should pull the trigger now or wait for something better. I don't see a 4K/OLED/120Hz/HDR 43" monitor coming out anytime soon at under $2K, so I think this is a wise purchase until something like that becomes available.

 

[brianbrook]

43UD78T is international version item so it may have Korean on remote and that NewEgg promotion for $550 is something I wouldn't pass up if your looking for an amazing 43' monitor...nothing comes close at that price! Expires at
11:59pm PT on 11/14/2017!

 

[levifig]

Alright: I talked to LG and they said that there is a difference between the UD and the MU (8ms vs 5ms GTG). I then asked about firmware updates and they said they would be different. I then asked if any new firmware updates had been released for the MU recently, to which he said no.

I decided to install the OnScreen Tools from the UD page anyway (no downloads listed for the MU), and voilá: there was a firmware update. After the update, PWM frequency was DEFINITELY higher (I have video of the before and after that I'll post later). Now, I don't know how much the response time differs between the 2 models. I have a hard time thinking that firmware alone could change that though I'd be hard pressed that there are ACTUAL hardware differences between these 2 models. Furthermore, it would seem my MU took the firmware update for the UD, unless the LG support person was wrong and there was a recent firmware update to the MU specifically.

I ended up starting the return for the MU (bought it on Amazon for $649+tax) and ordered the MU (same) from NewEgg ($550+no tax). The return will cost me about $36 (shipping, because even with Prime you don't get 2-day shipping or free return shipping on these big box items). Even with that, I'll save a little over $100! Once I get the new one, I'm going to try to replicate what I did with this one (e.g. firmware update) and report back. I'll keep you guys update as I have new info!

Btw: is there a way that someone with a UD and I with the MU could compare response times/input lag *reliably*? That would be a cool thing to try…


PS: Like Brian said above: at $550, even the MU is a no brainer, especially if the PWM firmware update works on it too (or if LG did indeed release an update for the MU too). It's a fantastic panel… At $550, I'm considering spending $200-250 on a 24'' 144Hz *just* for gaming, so the input lag/response time on this will mean absolutely nothing to me on competitive FPS games (which is where this stuff *actually* matter; for everything else, this monitor is more than capable enough already anyway).

PS2: Of note: the MU also offers a 3-year warranty with some "business" features (i.e. advanced replacement, etc) versus the 1-year warranty on the UD. I still don't understand how this UPC is on sale for these prices when the MSRP is over $2k… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Skott]

I got the email as well. Very tempting. First thing I did was come here to see what others were saying about the NE sale. NE shows the response time of 8ms which isnt too bad for a non competitive gamer. I just wish we had more info on this. I still want to wait for the 2018 units. Ever hopefull we get better than 60Hz.

 

[QuantumBraced]

I got the email as well. Very tempting. First thing I did was come here to see what others were saying about the NE sale. NE shows the response time of 8ms which isnt too bad for a non competitive gamer. I just wish we had more info on this. I still want to wait for the 2018 units. Ever hopefull we get better than 60Hz.

Are you referring to specific LG large monitors with 4K 120Hz planned for next year or speaking generally? I would definitely wait if I could get something this big in 4K 120Hz.

 

[Skott]

Speaking generally. We been hearing rumors of big 4k @120hz for a few years now. I'm of the opinion I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[levifig]

43UD79-B vs 43MU79-B (official reply)

Am I the only one who finds this difference VERY odd? But that would explain the 5ms vs 8ms GTG. Other than that, what are the other fundamental differences? Curious to find out which IPS panel is on the MU…

 

[Skott]

AH-IPS is the newer type IPS panel isnt it? More advanced? I suppose I'd choose it over the older type IPS but it could be nothing more than marketing.

 

[Martha Stewart]

Grabbed one of these on the cheap NE sale. Too cheap to pass up, worst case ill use it as another TV in the bathroom

 

[Khadgar]

Grabbed one of these on the cheap NE sale. Too cheap to pass up, worst case ill use it as another TV in the bathroom

LOL, meaning you already have a TV in the bathroom?

Maybe I'm missing out... I just use my phone like a poor person, I guess

 

[levifig]

LOL, meaning you already have a TV in the bathroom?

Maybe I'm missing out... I just use my phone like a poor person, I guess

It's Martha Stewart, dude… Her toilet is in her room, remember?

 

[Lateralus]

Grabbed one of these on the cheap NE sale. Too cheap to pass up, worst case ill use it as another TV in the bathroom

I believe you've tried several of the 40"+ 4K options, both monitors and TVs, correct? Still looking for that unicorn or was this just an impulse "why not" purchase?

 

[nameBrandon]

I believe you've tried several of the 40"+ 4K options, both monitors and TVs, correct? Still looking for that unicorn or was this just an impulse "why not" purchase?

and if I could piggy-back on that.. what was your experience with the 40"+ 4K TV's? I started off looking at the LG but have now switched to thinking the TV might be the way to go. Would love to hear about your experience with the 40"+ 4K TV's.

 

[Martha Stewart]

LOL, meaning you already have a TV in the bathroom?

Maybe I'm missing out... I just use my phone like a poor person, I guess

Yes

its like Bestbuy at my house lol

we have a TV above the bath for my wife to watch while she is getting ready for work

might as well add one to the pooper so I don't have to sit on my phone looking at Twitter

 

[Martha Stewart]

I believe you've tried several of the 40"+ 4K options, both monitors and TVs, correct? Still looking for that unicorn or was this just an impulse "why not" purchase?

basicly a "why not" purchase

Like Vega I go through monitors every 4-6 months

once a 40" 16k glossy gsync 240 hz OLED monitor comes out ill be happy

 

[QuantumBraced]

I'm starting to consider getting the LG OLED55B6P. It's $1500 yes, so roughly double the price of this one, but you get OLED, 120Hz, Dolby Vision HDR, 94% DCI-P3, great sound, and after the latest firmware update input lag is only 28ms which is good enough for casual gaming, and I hardly play games. It's also 55", so you'd need a deeper desk, but you can mount it on a beefier monitor arm with an adapter. Not sure about the response time, but it's OLED, so I'm guessing it's excellent.

I mean if they made a monitor with those specs it would be at least $5000. The Dell 120Hz OLED alone was $5000 MSRP before it got cancelled, and it was much smaller and no HDR. I'm starting to seriously consider it, I always thought TVs made poor monitors, but they've made huge strides lately, and if you're not a serious gamer I really don't see a big downside. I really want a 40+" OLED 120Hz HDR WCG monitor, and I don't see the monitor industry giving us anything like that for a few more years at least. Any thoughts?

 

[Lateralus]

basicly a "why not" purchase

Like Vega I go through monitors every 4-6 months

once a 40" 16k glossy gsync 240 hz OLED monitor comes out ill be happy

Oh, OK.

I tend to keep mine for a while. I used my JS9000 as my monitor, from 2015 until last weekend. I totally skipped the various monitor offerings from Philips, Wasabi Mango, Crossover, Dell, LG, etc. and 2016/2017 LCD TVs from Sony etc. because nothing seemed like a clear cut upgrade from what I was using. One might be better in terms of input lag or viewing angles but worse in other areas, etc. so I just stuck with what I had hoping that a 40"+ 120 Hz 4K display would surface eventually.

I'm starting to consider getting the LG OLED55B6P. It's $1500 yes, so roughly double the price of this one, but you get OLED, 120Hz, Dolby Vision HDR, 94% DCI-P3, and after the latest firmware update input lag is only 28ms which is good enough for casual gaming, and I hardly play games. It's also 55", so you'd need a deeper desk, but you can mount it on a beefier monitor arm with an adapter. Not sure about the response time, but it's OLED, so I'm guessing it's excellent.

I mean if they made a monitor with those specs it would be at least $5000. The Dell 120Hz OLED alone was $5000 MSRP before it got cancelled, and it was much smaller and no HDR. I'm starting to seriously consider it, I always thought TVs made poor monitors, but they've made huge strides lately, and if you're not a serious gamer I really don't see a big downside. I really want a 40+" OLED 120Hz HDR WCG monitor, and I don't see the monitor industry giving us anything like that for a few more years at least. Any thoughts?

That's what I did last weekend and for me there is no going back unless something drastically changes. I got mine when Newegg had them for $1399 w/free shipping. It's larger than I really want as a monitor, but literally everything else about it is so exquisitely good, I don't care. I'll deal with the size.

I posted my thoughts here. Also the lag is more like 21ms, not 28ms if I remember correctly. edit: Oh I see now, you were talking about the 2016 B6 model which did have a touch higher input lag. I got the 2017 model (B7) which has 21ms.

 

[QuantumBraced]

That's what I did last weekend and for me there is no going back unless something drastically changes. I got mine when Newegg had them for $1399 w/free shipping. It's larger than I really want as a monitor, but literally everything else about it is so exquisitely good, I don't care. I'll deal with the size.

I posted my thoughts here. Also the lag is more like 21ms, not 28ms if I remember correctly. edit: Oh I see now, you were talking about the 2016 B6 model which did have a touch higher input lag. I got the 2017 model (B7) which has 21ms.

Thanks very much, I'd missed that thread. Just checked, and in the UK it's a LOT more, like $2200 when you convert. I miss home haha.

So it doesn't do 120Hz at 4K?

I don't mean to derail the thread. I'm still on the fence, I don't know... Waiting for the 43UD79 to drop to £650 here as it's currently £750 due to shortages. Again, a lot more. And I got a response from LG, the only difference between the -B and T versions is the stand.

 

[Lateralus]

Thanks very much, I'd missed that thread. Just checked, and in the UK it's a LOT more, like $2200 when you convert. I miss home haha.

So it doesn't do 120Hz at 4K?

I don't mean to derail the thread. I'm still on the fence, I don't know... Waiting for the 43UD79 to drop to £650 here as it's currently £750 due to shortages. Again, a lot more. And I got a response from LG, the only difference between the -B and T versions is the stand.

You're welcome. 4K @ 120 Hz requires HDMI 2.1, which isn't available yet to my knowledge. I believe it is possible (from a bandwidth standpoint) with DisplayPort 1.3, but TVs usually do not have DP connectors and even in the monitor world I am not aware of a 4K 120 Hz panel yet. I'm sure they're coming but boy has it been a long wait (and severe compromise for those who have had to choose between 4K @ 60 Hz or a lower resolution at a higher refresh rate).

I don't wish to derail the thread either, but since you mentioned the OLED I figured I'd chime in. This LG looks like a nice monitor for the price, so let us know your impressions if you get it.

 

[QuantumBraced]

You're welcome. 4K @ 120 Hz requires HDMI 2.1, which isn't available yet to my knowledge. I believe it is possible (from a bandwidth standpoint) with DisplayPort 1.3, but TVs usually do not have DP connectors and even in the monitor world I am not aware of a 4K 120 Hz panel yet. I'm sure they're coming but boy has it been a long wait (and severe compromise for those who have had to choose between 4K @ 60 Hz or a lower resolution at a higher refresh rate).

I don't wish to derail the thread either, but since you mentioned the OLED I figured I'd chime in. This LG looks like a nice monitor for the price, so let us know your impressions if you get it.

Thanks, will do. Indeed, you're right about HDMI 2.1, and also 4K monitors at more than 60Hz. ASUS and Acer are releasing 4K 144Hz monitors with G-Sync HDR in Q1 2018, but alas only 27". I think next year will be big for HDR and 120Hz 4K, which is why I am reluctant to buy now, but......... I'm still at 1080p 60Hz and I've waited a long time, so I do want to get something finally.

 

[levifig]

Got my 43MU79-B from that Newegg deal today (holy fast shipping; ordered Monday). Once again, firmware totally upgradeable using the OnScreen Tools from the 43UD79-B. Totally fixed PWM frequency!

 

[surfhick reborn]

That was fast. I ordered mine last Mon. too. Not going to be here until tomorrow.

 

[levifig]

43UD79-B vs 43MU79-B (official reply)

Am I the only one who finds this difference VERY odd? But that would explain the 5ms vs 8ms GTG. Other than that, what are the other fundamental differences? Curious to find out which IPS panel is on the MU…

The more I use the MU the more I find it difficult to believe that it isn't an AH-IPS panel: the matte coating is super light, the viewing angles are superb, and not to mention 10-bit color seems to be a thing with AH-IPS too… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #confused

 

[Khadgar]

Eh, customer support generally doesn't have real information.

 

[Bob123]

I just got my 43MU79 and find it not uniformly lit. Left and right sides are darker with bottom corners more than top. How uniform should I expect the screen to be?

I can mitigate it somewhat by making picture warmer (so white is more yellow) with dark room 1 setting.

 

[Bob123]

The more I use the MU the more I find it difficult to believe that it isn't an AH-IPS panel: the matte coating is super light, the viewing angles are superb, and not to mention 10-bit color seems to be a thing with AH-IPS too… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #confused

From what I understand there are no IPS screens per se as it's a generic term indicating particular technology. I'm guessing it's the same type of panel as in UD but driven (slightly) less aggressively because of 3 year warranty.

 

[levifig]

I just got my 43MU79 and find it not uniformly lit. Left and right sides are darker with bottom corners more than top. How uniform should I expect the screen to be?

I can mitigate it somewhat by making picture warmer (so white is more yellow) with dark room 1 setting.

Absolutely not. This display is incredible and definitely uniformly lit. You might've gotten a faulty panel. I'd talk to the vendor to get it replaced. If not, you can always reach out to LG directly (the MU has the business warranty which is WAY better, and even gives you some neat features like advanced replacements and stuff).

From what I understand there are no IPS screens per se as it's a generic term indicating particular technology. I'm guessing it's the same type of panel as in UD but driven (slightly) less aggressively because of 3 year warranty.

That's what I'm thinking too… I'm just happy that it seems to take the firmware updates from the UD, which probably means that 1) it's the same panel and 2) we won't get "stuck" without some of the updates the UD is bound to get in the upcoming months (like the PWM firmware update). WIN-WIN?

 

[Bob123]

Here's a photo my 43MU79. Uniformity is better than my TV but shadows do bother me a little especially when in side-by side split picture mode. Does your (UD or MU) look better?

 

[Martha Stewart]

and if I could piggy-back on that.. what was your experience with the 40"+ 4K TV's? I started off looking at the LG but have now switched to thinking the TV might be the way to go. Would love to hear about your experience with the 40"+ 4K TV's.

Not really a fan, Ive had a 48" Samsung LCD and a LG 55" OLED 4k as monitors and both were good, but too big. 4k just isn't enough at that size. 40"+ needs 5k at the least. I prefer a high PPI

 

[Lateralus]

Not really a fan, Ive had a 48" Samsung LCD and a LG 55" OLED 4k as monitors and both were good, but too big. 4k just isn't enough at that size. 40"+ needs 5k at the least. I prefer a high PPI

Sounds like that's more about the size being an issue, though; I was under the impression that he was looking for pros/cons of using a TV vs. a monitor. I can weigh in on the TV side but I haven't used any of the 40"+ monitors. Didn't you have the Philips BDM (or another one) at some point? (I can't remember, too many threads and too much time has passed).

Also, did you consider any of the Samsung or Sony 40"-43" TVs? There have been several of those since 2015 - they might have helped with your PPI preference and I know there were people who were very happy with them.

 

[Bob123]

I bought this LG because of side by side picture feature. I always miss vertical space and there are no monitors that offer 1920x2160. I feel that 43" 4k is perfect if you look at it from 3ft as it leaves more work space in front of the monitor.

 

[nameBrandon]

Sounds like that's more about the size being an issue, though; I was under the impression that he was looking for pros/cons of using a TV vs. a monitor. I can weigh in on the TV side but I haven't used any of the 40"+ monitors. Didn't you have the Philips BDM (or another one) at some point? (I can't remember, too many threads and too much time has passed).

Also, did you consider any of the Samsung or Sony 40"-43" TVs? There have been several of those since 2015 - they might have helped with your PPI preference and I know there were people who were very happy with them.

Please do weigh in.. I'm going back and forth between this LG, and two Samsungs (43" IPS and 49" VA curved). Strangely enough the Samsung 43" IPS (MU6300) is the only option of those three, including the LG monitor, that has an RBG sub-pixel layout, which I was hoping to have in a new 'monitor'. I wouldn't ever try a 49" flat, I know that would be too big, but am intrigued as to how the curved option changes that equation for monitor usage.

For my needs (mostly development work and (non-professional) photo editing), the LG monitor has some 'nice to haves but probably won't really use', like the split screen, etc.. They're all under $1k which was my target, so price difference isn't that big of a deal, just not sure what the experience of using a TV as a monitor is like, and if there are things that get annoying or become a PITA where I'd wish I just had a regular PC monitor instead of a TV.

 

[Khadgar]

Here's a photo my 43MU79. Uniformity is better than my TV but shadows do bother me a little especially when in side-by side split picture mode. Does your (UD or MU) look better?

If you move your head around, do the bright spots follow your eyes? ie, is the area centered in front of your eyes always the brightest? Could it just be a viewing angle thing since the screen is so large and you're so close?