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Not exactly, it just runs on the same engine that their main site does. It certainly makes it easy to not need to set a dozen filters, at least.Great idea. If handled by their normal ordering process it makes an easy interface for the average consumer.
Edit: It literally just links you to Newegg.
Nvidia doesn't really *need* to do anything, raising MSRP or otherwise - the market will decide what the prices are, and they'll be sky-high for 4000 series. Or at least high enough that the entitled whiners will find them out of reach once again.If you were really in the market for a 30 series, you'd have paid for one by now...everyone else on the fence this whole time is going "But 4000 is right here, and I've learned how to be patient just a little bit more".........if the performance increases are realistic, you'd be absurd to buy a 30 series at even these 'near MSRP prices'............Nvidias only option is to jack the price of the 4000 series cards to pandemic price points to make the 30 series at half that look desirable 2 years after release
NV already sold the components to AIBs. They are the ones who need to sell.If you were really in the market for a 30 series, you'd have paid for one by now...everyone else on the fence this whole time is going "But 4000 is right here, and I've learned how to be patient just a little bit more".........if the performance increases are realistic, you'd be absurd to buy a 30 series at even these 'near MSRP prices'............Nvidias only option is to jack the price of the 4000 series cards to pandemic price points to make the 30 series at half that look desirable 2 years after release
Prices started dropping as soon as miners stopped buying cards and were already most of the way down before miners started dumping cards on the resale market. The bigger issue will be if they can't unload all the current stock before they launch the next gen then they'll be competing with their own previous gen in retail.Nvidia doesn't really *need* to do anything, raising MSRP or otherwise - the market will decide what the prices are, and they'll be sky-high for 4000 series. Or at least high enough that the entitled whiners will find them out of reach once again.
IOW don't get too excited by the momentary glut of oversupply + kiddie miners dumping GPU's and putting downward pressure on resale - won't mean much for prices in 3, 6 and 9 months. 3000 prices will also come back up.
Yes, but they were also doing a lottery to try to keep a couple people from sucking up all the cards. Doesn't excuse the extras thing, but still...Make Newegg eat it. Weren't they basically forcing people to buy extra items to get a GPU during the supply issues?
I'm not trying to defend newegg but it's likely they and others had to buy or at least reserve cards at inflated prices and they literally cannot afford to drop prices below a certain point without taking a massive loss. It would be the same for every other storefront.To be fair to Steve, I have never heard anyone call 1440p, 2k. But really, not much of a thing to harp about.
All I'd harp on, is that fact that they, Newegg, got caught holding the bag on tons of unsold GPUs and really at this stage of the game, prices should still be better than they are. Greedy fucks.
I'm not trying to defend newegg but it's likely they and others had to buy or at least reserve cards at inflated prices and they literally cannot afford to drop prices below a certain point without taking a massive loss. It would be the same for every other storefront.
Ignore the scalpers for a minute and look what happened to prices on cards rather quickly. The MSRP of the AIBs went sky high so they were the ones taking most of the profit and the cost was passed onto retailers and e-tailors to be passed on to the people purchasing.
There's no doubt retailers and e-tailers did some of their own price gouging but they do not set the minimum price. There may be a glut of cards at the moment but most of the orders for those cards were likely done long before the glut happened and therefore the order price was much higher than it would be right now if they placed orders for more cards.
Sounds like someone who doesn't know anything at all about business.Sounds like poor business planning and not a consumer issue. Not our problem. Either prices drop, take a small hit, or don't drop pricing and see no inventory move and take an even bigger hit. Their choice. Your move retailers. Your move.
That's only partly true. Retailers the size of NE work closely with the AIB companies and when a product isn't selling can often get mail in rebates added, funds for instant rebates, or even just a partial refund on current stock. Asus isn't going to want NE being forced to sell above the going rate because they don't want to get stuck with inventory they expected to wholesale to them.Sounds like someone who doesn't know anything at all about business.
Also sounds like a consumer who doesn't understand something simple. Businesses which sell at a loss go out of business. And basically all the retailers/e-tailers were stuck buying the same items at the same prices (without going into the differences in volume purchasing) so none of them are going to sell at a loss which means prices aren't going to drop to nothing like you seem to expect. That means the cards are going to sell at the prices they currently are which happen to be in most cases a hell of a lot cheaper than they were a few months ago. And prices won't drop much below current prices until the current stock of cards ordered at higher prices are exhausted and new orders at lower prices are made.
Companies aren't going to put themselves out of business just so you can pay less for a piece of hardware.
Oh I don't disagree. I am sort of blaming that whole chain starting with Nvidia and AMD. Greedy, greedy, greedy.I'm not trying to defend newegg but it's likely they and others had to buy or at least reserve cards at inflated prices and they literally cannot afford to drop prices below a certain point without taking a massive loss. It would be the same for every other storefront.
Ignore the scalpers for a minute and look what happened to prices on cards rather quickly. The MSRP of the AIBs went sky high so they were the ones taking most of the profit and the cost was passed onto retailers and e-tailors to be passed on to the people purchasing.
There's no doubt retailers and e-tailers did some of their own price gouging but they do not set the minimum price. There may be a glut of cards at the moment but most of the orders for those cards were likely done long before the glut happened and therefore the order price was much higher than it would be right now if they placed orders for more cards.
Nvidia and AMD delivered BOM kits for about a year, which allows AIBs/retailers to sell at MSRP, while retail prices took huge jumps.Oh I don't disagree. I am sort of blaming that whole chain starting with Nvidia and AMD. Greedy, greedy, greedy.
I see the term "2k" used for 2560x1440 all the time on non tech sites. I don't fault them for using it to inform lower tech knowledgeable people.
Yep. Explicit resolutions for the win.Yeah, looking at some of the search results for the term "2k resolution" you might find sites referring to 2K as meaning 1080P and others 1440P, which is one of the problems with that term and why nobody should use it.
1440p isn’t 2k though.To be fair to Steve, I have never heard anyone call 1440p, 2k. But really, not much of a thing to harp about.
All I'd harp on, is that fact that they, Newegg, got caught holding the bag on tons of unsold GPUs and really at this stage of the game, prices should still be better than they are. Greedy fucks.
It's not just consumers, manufacturers and as pointed out, casual, consumer-oriented "tech press" sites get in on the action, too. That Steve was picking on the term "2k" is fine, but the premise that nobody uses the term, and Newegg is somehow alone in using it is absurd. Few of us use that term, but none of us were going to buy a GPU based on that website, either. Nobody that watches GN was going to.There’s a long line of consumers misusing resolution terms
Sure. There is a big conflict of interests between technical people working in these visual medium industries and advertisers.It's not just consumers, manufacturers and as pointed out, casual, consumer-oriented "tech press" sites get in on the action, too. That Steve was picking on the term "2k" is fine, but the premise that nobody uses the term, and Newegg is somehow alone in using it is absurd. Few of us use that term, but none of us were going to buy a GPU based on that website, either. Nobody that watches GN was going to.
Well, I think the bigger point was that this is all just a form of consumer manipulation to unload a massive stack of back inventory that was horded now that the nVidia 4 series is looming. In other words the whole site is just there to dupe customers into thinking they're getting unbiased information from an unbiased site to help drive 3 series sales.Here's what I want to hear from Steve regarding Newegg: Are they really holding up their no-questions-asked return policy on open-box sales? If he has investigated that, then that's cool. If they're actually living up to their promise, that's huge and they deserve some credit. If not, everyone needs to know that, too.
Has anyone observed how they're marketing it to these poor, hapless consumers who are going to spend several hundred dollars based on one site's graphs that don't change when critical system components are drastically upgraded? How did Steve find out about it? If I pretend to be a consumer and search for "gpu selection guide" or "how do I choose a GPU" and similar stuff, Newegg's already at the top.Well, I think the bigger point was that this is all just a form of consumer manipulation ... the whole site is just there to dupe customers into thinking they're getting unbiased information from an unbiased site to help drive 3 series sales.
Well tbf if you already watch some of steve's videos you are likely already pretty knowledgeable about GPUs and their pricing.Has anyone observed how they're marketing it to these poor, hapless consumers who are going to spend several hundred dollars based on one site's graphs that don't change when critical system components are drastically upgraded? How did Steve find out about it? If I pretend to be a consumer and search for "gpu selection guide" or "how do I choose a GPU" and similar stuff, Newegg's already at the top.
I just feel like he could have spent 5 minutes taking a giant crap on the site like he wanted to, like it deserves to have done to it as poorly made as it is. It runs like dog crap on my i7 laptop with 8GB RAM. Then he could have spent the other 15 minutes trying to help people who he thinks the site is going to hurt.
4K would be 2160p so no wonder why . Assuming 16:9 aspect ratio and landscape format.Too bad "nobody" refers to 4K as 3840P or 4096P.