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Their top chip is getting beat by NVIDIA's mid-range chip. I would say that's pretty bad.
I wouldn't call the 670 a mid-range chip really.
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Their top chip is getting beat by NVIDIA's mid-range chip. I would say that's pretty bad.
Not really much of an article there, but at least he does mention that the GPU business is a totally different story.
It seems like only yesterday when the Athlon was kicking ass and taking names, but that was 13 years ago![]()
At the end of the day, what the GPU's code name was, and what it was originally intended for is irrelevant. It more than competes with AMD's highest end offering and it's name as the GTX 680 denotes what it is now.
When it comes to Windows 8 tablets, hybrids and convertibles, AMD looks to be toast. Everything at Computex running Windows 8 from an actual OEM had either a Cedar Trail or Ivy Bridge CPU. There was like one concept Trinity device that looked like crap, literally it looked like someone had run over it with a truck.
The Windows Tegra Tablet looked good.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers...our-new-windows-8-and-windows-rt-devices/8226
It did indeed and I'll probably get one. I was referring to Windows 8 proper which technically is x86 only.
So AMD isn't beating out Intel's flagship enthusiast chip right now. Big deal. Intel will get lazy and sloppy, like they did before when they thought they had "won" the chip war before, and AMD will come up with a surprise that will donkey-punch them in the blowhole and the race will be on again. I would be more inclined to ask if C|Net is still relevant at this point.
Haha I lol'd, really? Do you know even what VIA is? VIA CPUs are exclusively made for embedded itx computers, their chipsets and CPUs are complete unstable and unreliable garbage. The fact Intel sells faster CPUs doesn't put AMD(which is hi tech and competitive company in many fields) to level of VIA, I happily used AMD products for 10 years without any problem. I switched to Intel in 2012 out of pure curiosity, still owning AMD card which is very reliable and working well.Well another way of explaining it is that the 680 was able to beat the 7970 using something like 800 million less transistors.
AMD is struggling at the high end of both the CPU and GPU front. Like I said they will probably end up like VIA and occupy a more niche and or low end market.
Zarathustra[H];1038810440 said:Disagree.
The only reason they were competitive in the K7 to K8 era was because Intel screwed up big time with Pentium 4.
They were only able to compete because Intel allowed them to, by failing so miserably themselves.
Err, lolwut?
That's gotta be the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. The only reason any company is better than any other company is because one company releases something and then another company releases something better than the other company's product. AMD was once the company who released the better product, plain and simple. Intel is now the company releasing the better product. That can change at any time.
Err, lolwut?
That's gotta be the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. The only reason any company is better than any other company is because one company releases something and then another company releases something better than the other company's product. AMD was once the company who released the better product, plain and simple. Intel is now the company releasing the better product. That can change at any time.
AMD video chips are in all 3 of the upcoming new consoles. Thats millions of chips that need to be made![]()
AMD video chips are in all 3 of the upcoming new consoles. Thats millions of chips that need to be made![]()
Maybe a better question, is C|Net relevant anymore?
It might have been said/asked earlier in the thread but I actually think that the real question is whether or not Intel's x86 is still relevant? Just look at all the mobile devices, using ARM-based components doing more or less everything normal users need them to. And let's not forget the fact that Wintel is dead, Windows 8 supports ARM.
AMD is still relevant however. The fact that they actually can't compete in all segments is understandable considering that both Intel and Nvidia is two large company's. AMD get to compete with both of these and they are to small for that.
Just look at all the mobile devices, using ARM-based components doing more or less everything normal users need them to
More or less is the key phrase there. Sure smartphone sales are skyrocketing. I own 2 (personal/work) however I have yet to meet anyone who has replaced their computers with a phone/tablet. Everyone I know still has at least 1 x86 based system. They may use it less, but its there. While ARM devices are amazing, they still can't do half of what a cheap laptop can.
Another thing to consider...
With AMD making all 3 gaming console gpus, the upcoming console ports should potentially work much better with their gpus.
Another thing to consider...
With AMD making all 3 gaming console gpus, the upcoming console ports should potentially work much better with their gpus.
Rumor = fact?![]()
Rumor = fact?![]()
And let's not forget the fact that Wintel is dead, Windows 8 supports ARM.
Zarathustra[H];1038814161 said:2011 may have been the first year where more smartphones were sold worldwide than PC's, (at least as measured in number of units) but the PC isn't going anywhere, and with ~80% of the PC CPU market, a market that grew by 15% last year, Intel has nothing to fear from an irrelevance perspective.
More or less is the key phrase there. Sure smartphone sales are skyrocketing. I own 2 (personal/work) however I have yet to meet anyone who has replaced their computers with a phone/tablet. Everyone I know still has at least 1 x86 based system. They may use it less, but its there. While ARM devices are amazing, they still can't do half of what a cheap laptop can.
Wintel is far from dead, with Windows 8 I see Wintel perhaps as being as big as ever.
I do agree with both of you. I was thinking about the release of Windows 8 and the years ahead. The way I see it there is just a matter of time before ARM is being pushed into both desktop PC's and, more importantly, notebooks. Better performing chips and a lower price than what Intel and, of course, AMD can deliver should make these interesting for normal consumers.
x86 is relevant today but in five years? I'm not so sure about that.