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iPad Reserve or Pre-Order

phide said:
Reportedly Best Buys are only getting around 15 units per store. Whether that's 15 iPads total or 15 of each model I'm not certain.


Torrenting is an unauthorized use of Windows?
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Torrents are pretty much about unauthorized something. And you won't see a Bittorent client for the iPad, not unless its jailbroken.

You can't discount users that want this stuff and my guess is that it uTorrent will be HUGE HIT on Windows slates. I know we think people are dumb when it comes to tech but even my most technically challenged friends all know how to torrent.
 
heatlesssun said:
Torrents are pretty much about unauthorized something. And you won't see a Bittorent client for the iPad, not unless its jailbroken.

You can't discount users that want this stuff and my guess is that it uTorrent will be HUGE HIT on Windows slates. I know we think people are dumb when it comes to tech but even my most technically challenged friends all know how to torrent.
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Why are you getting the iPad? So you know what your talking about when you criticize it?

I am 0% convinced that you will keep your iPad. I think you will purchase it, learn enough to hate it, and either return it or sell it.

Then you will find threads where people talk about what they like about the iPad so you can give knowledgeable counter argument.
 
wrxdrunkie said:
Why are you getting the iPad? So you know what your talking about when you criticize it?

I am 0% convinced that you will keep your iPad. I think you will purchase it, learn enough to hate it, and either return it or sell it.

Then you will find threads where people talk about what they like about the iPad so you can give knowledgeable counter argument.
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I’m critical of ALL technology. Indeed as big of a Tablet PC fan as I am I’m a big critic as well. Tablet PCs are EXTREMELY complex devices and most of the consumer convertible models until this this year were either too hot, too heavy, too slow, too glitchy or all of the as above to function as intended, to be both slates and laptops. That has changed this year and the tm2 is the FIRST out of the 6 convertible TPCs I’ve owned over the last almost 7 years that FINALLY got the form factor right.

Without Core 2 Duo CULV CPUs and Windows 7, TPCs would have been annihilated by the iPad. It’s hard to describe to people that have not used this devices as much as I have HOW big of a leap the tm2 is in consumer Tablet PCs. There’s still lots of room for improvement but honestly was worried about the future of Windows based tablets. It’s a totally different game now.

The beauty of the iPad is its ease of use but there are tradeoffs. My biggest problem with the iPad isn’t the iPad, it is the Apple hype. If you claim that this device is magical when you KNOW it has fairly obvious limitations you’re creating the stage for failure.

Push it hard; don’t make it into something it is not. If Apple pushes too hard to make people iPads are netbook/laptop replacements because they are “magical” what do you think is going to happen? Yes the iPad is great but even Apple has its limits in its marketing power. Think big, not cocky.
 
phide said:
That wasn't my question.
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If the question is "Is torrenting an unauthorized use of Windows?" No not per se of course. But the number of legal torrents has to be close to 1% or less of traffic.

My point people don't by computers with "Is that authorized?" generally in mind, not in the consumer space.
 
heatlesssun said:
Torrents are pretty much about unauthorized something. And you won't see a Bittorent client for the iPad, not unless its jailbroken.

You can't discount users that want this stuff and my guess is that it uTorrent will be HUGE HIT on Windows slates. I know we think people are dumb when it comes to tech but even my most technically challenged friends all know how to torrent.
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Why on earth would you want to run torrenting from a device that isn't meant for storage, isn't meant for high performance networking, it's mobile so on 3g you're not likely to want to waste your bandwidth (particularly on outbound traffic), wont let you run it in the background and overall just isn't good for torrent access. The "because I can" aspect of doing this stuff through jailbreaking and other means just doesn't appeal to me, there just seem to be better more innovative ways.

A better use would be to open a web interface (through uTorrent's WebUI) or a logmein ignition session to your home utorrent server and start your downloads, then when complete grab from your home system through a file share service (drop box for instance).

The best use of the iPad outside of the "complete multimedia experience" is as a gateway, a view, a portal a remote to some other computing device and/or service.
 
Anything that's about media consumption at least in the real world involves P2P. If you have a good 3G connection torrenting isn't a problem. My 3G connection is faster than these cheap cable modem connections I see people on these days and that's about all they do with their bandwidth.

Sure you could do the WebUI thing. On a TPC it's not necessary.
 
Your argument seems to be based on the assumption that P2P is the only way to get media on either type of device and it's not. And no, on a tablet pc it's not necessary but that doesn't mean it is better.

But falling to the assumption that P2P has to be the method for obtaining your media, maybe using a TPC in the old method is better for you, but for me better is starting a torrent on my home server and let that always on, always connected to an outlet machine collect my media and consume it when I chose to go grab it. Especially in the off chance that a particular torrent is going to take several hours to grab allowing me to start it with 5 minutes of work on my tablet/ipad and come back to it later when I can grab it in one fell swoop.

On 3G it is a problem as there are media caps and they're miserably small and in many markets it is not that fast. 5GB which is the cap on most plans isn't much in transfer and when it is consumed in the process of negotiating peers or uploads where I could really open a stream to a direct source instead preserving precious bandwidth (and not be a total leech by shutting off outbound torrent traffic).

I have to ask, what tablet do you use that is this magical panacea of computing?
 
Apple is never going to allow a torrent client into the app store since that would open up a way for bypassing the store to download apps and possibly malware which will cause a major headache for Apple.
 
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