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Intel Launches 8th Generation Core Processors

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In an announcement today, Intel has released the 8th generation of the Core processors. The initial release is limited to the U-series processors, 15 watt units designed for laptops and convertibles. All are quad-core processors with Intel HyperThreading technology, which us up from previous U-series processors were dual core with HyperThreading. All are 14nm FiNFET, with the flagship being the Core i7-8650U with a 1.9 GHz base clock, 4.2 GHz turbo and 8MP L3 cache. Intel is claiming 40% performance gains over last generations U processors, with 15% more power efficiency.

Video is a bit painful to watch so I'll give you a couple tidbits from it. In there are not so subtly placed are a couple coffee mugs that say "October" and "10 2017" on them, so that should be a hint. And all the info you really need to know is at the 13:20 mark. Going to be fun with the Kaby Lake refresh, Coffee Lake, and Cannon Lake all being 8th gen.

This new mobile family sets the bar for outstanding performance, including a boost of up to 40 percent gen over gen1, and that jumps to 2x2 if you compare it with a 5-year-old machine. This is all thanks to the new quad-core configuration, power-efficient microarchitecture, advanced process technology and a huge range of silicon optimizations.
 
Yet another painfully boring new generation of Intel CPUs. Will they ever release something as interesting as their last meaningful release - SB?
 
DigitalGriffin said:
Why laptops?
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It's been this way since at least Sandy Bridge if not before. They always launch the low end stuff like the laptop chips and i3's first.

Meeho said:
Yet another painfully boring new generation of Intel CPUs. Will they ever release something as interesting as their last meaningful release - SB?
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IMHO, the only really interesting thing about this release is the laptop chips. They are finally making mobile i5 quad cores instead of them being equivalent to the desktop i3's. Same thermals, same power usage, but twice the cores which is almost a necessity at this point. I will be really interested to see where they take the professional level stuff. I'm already salivating over the thought of a true quad core Surface Book for mobile photoshop work for my Fiance.
 
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CaptNumbNutz said:
It's been this way since at least Sandy Bridge if not before. They always launch the low end stuff like the laptop chips and i3's first.
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Indeed, low-power and mobile chips almost always launch first. Should mean mainstream desktop is about a month away, which would fall in line with the September 15 rumor.
 
drescherjm said:
Whenever they replace silicon based transistors.
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If we take SB by die size, and compare it to todays 14 nm we coulda had twice the L2 cache, all the kaby lake improvements, 2 cores more (6 cores) and IGP for the same cost which equates to about 370 usd if I'm not mistaken (it's not far off anyways)

That would be quite awesome, but instead they're adding 2 cores in panic probably at the first leak performance they got from someone 10-11 months ago (12 month time to make new chips + 1 month shipping seems reasonable) as any major KL design change woulda taken too long.

They were really fortunate that a server design (which they also found out with their mesh arch.) sucks at gaming and have mitigated the damage quite a bit for Intel.

Cannon Lake vs Zen+ will be really exciting!
Especially considering Intel will maybe put some actual thought into Cannon Lake....
 
...dont know what i would do with it, but making a desktop CPU dual aware and get a few motherboard manuf to make the boards would be cool. Why only server's are able to use two or more cpus at this stage in new tech seems a bit constricted.
 
Khahhblaab said:
...dont know what i would do with it, but making a desktop CPU dual aware and get a few motherboard manuf to make the boards would be cool. Why only server's are able to use two or more cpus at this stage in new tech seems a bit constricted.
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Dual socket Threadripper... Maybe quad sockets....

Oh fuck yea. I sure as shit wouldn't be able to use anywhere close to that, but it'd be fun to play with. e-peen would be huge.
 
With 16 core cpus (and 18 core CPUs coming this year) the days of consumer dual processor systems are beyond numbered.
 
Hey guys, want basically the same CPU we've been re-releasing every year since Haswell? No. Well here you go anyway. We know you'll still buy it because AMD motherboards suck balls.
 
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why is that guy holding silicon with his bare hands? it's NOT something you want in your skin.
 
CaptNumbNutz said:
IMHO, the only really interesting thing about this release is the laptop chips. They are finally making mobile i5 quad cores instead of them being equivalent to the desktop i3's. Same thermals, same power usage, but twice the cores which is almost a necessity at this point. I will be really interested to see where they take the professional level stuff. I'm already salivating over the thought of a true quad core Surface Book with for mobile photoshop work for my Fiance.
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I'm glad my work issued T540p is still in mint condition. I upped the RAM to 16GB, shoved in a 1TB SSD, and a 4810MQ - no problems under IBT.
The newer Lenovos are too thin (eg. T560p) and come with crappy U processor. The damned thing look it would throttle under load with a 4c/8t processor.
 
Promises, Promises. Let's hope they deliver on 40%. Not that it would matter. All I use my laptop to do is tune my car and I can do that with a single core with 512 MB RAM.
 
I started buying quad core laptops for most people in the office last year after intel finally released quad cores that where cool enough to run at their stated speed.

Then they messed up the branding.

Really hate having to explaining that the dual core i7-6600U is SLOWER than the i5-7440HQ.

But I want a Surface book with a fast i7, not a Dell with a slow i5 !!! :mad:

No, the Surface Book's i7 is only dual core and is about 1/2 the speed of the Dell with the i5 when running our CPU intensive VM's
In fact the i7 is about the same speed as the 3 year old Dell laptops I'm replacing.
Yes it's smaller & lighter, but what good is that if it's too slow to demo our product?
 
WhoBeDaPlaya said:
I'm glad my work issued T540p is still in mint condition. I upped the RAM to 16GB, shoved in a 1TB SSD, and a 4810MQ - no problems under IBT.
The newer Lenovos are too thin (eg. T560p) and come with crappy U processor. The damned thing look it would throttle under load with a 4c/8t processor.
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Yeah, family got a X230 a while ago. Really decent laptop, though the touchpad was a bit small. Next gen, Lenovo made the touchpad much larger, but also bumped from dual channel ram to single channel. Just great.

So yet again, my idea of a perfect laptop slips away once more. Maybe I really will have to get a macbook, but that is still compromising.

Either way, the X series still runs single channel ram and when it got Thunderbolt, it got the neutered version. Or something like that. All I remember is being disappointed with every "update" they did to that lineup.
 
The 8650U turbos to 3.9Ghz on all cores. Its close to being a mobile 6700K at 15W(25W with cTDP-Up) and that includes the 22nm PCH.
 
Uggghhh that video was pretty painful to watch....lots of miscues and the staged scenes, just terrible. Either way intel needs to start getting serious again. Lets hope these aren't just claims and they actually hold up to the 40% gain.
 
Shintai said:
Because laptops outsell desktops?
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I won't argue with you there. Problem is whenever intel makes power efficiency improvements, manufactures respond by adding a smaller battery, so it's always a trade off. We've been hearing the "All day power" mantra for years, only to see manufactures shrink the battery. And to be honest the real power hog is becoming the GPU intensive apps, and display. CPU is playing a smaller and smaller portion of the power budget.

Power users are the ones who need the speed boost. And they typically have desktops. (I'm not just talking gamers, but those who actually run massive analysis apps, and utilities like photoshop and premiere, as well as large compile projects)
 
I am glad to hear that the new U processors are quad cores. I am hoping for a refreshed LG Gram 15 with one of these processors soon!
 
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