Intel Arc B580 Content Creation Review

[erek]

“For video editing and motion graphics, the B580 ended up being something of a mixed bag. In LongGOP codecs, it was either the best option or the worst, depending on the specific application and flavor of H.264/HEVC. We expect that, to some extent, this is a bug, but until it is fixed, it is difficult to blanket recommend the B580 for use in this type of workflow. With RAW codecs, we still recommend an NVIDIA GPU. However, the B580 performed great in GPU effects in Premiere Pro, DaVinci Resolve, and After Effects, falling behind only the much more expensive RTX 4070.

In our Unreal Engine benchmark, the B580 was 31% faster than the last-gen A750, and matched the 4060 across the spectrum of resolutions and Ray Tracing. Given the higher VRAM capacity of the B580, it may make for a solid Unreal Engine GPU on the low end. For professionals, it may end up being too low end, though. These results also make us excited to see how it performs in gaming workloads, though you’ll have to check out other reviewers for that.

Overall, the B580 is a terrific budget GPU with plenty of VRAM and solid performance. We haven’t experienced any issues with the drivers in terms of bad installations, OS crashes, or setting wonkiness as we did with the initial Arc Alchemist launch—Intel seems to have ironed out many of the generic driver issues over the last few years. However, we have seen performance issues, particularly with hardware-accelerated media, that we believe to be driver-related. Hopefully, we see a patch in the near future to address those issues.”

Source: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/intel-arc-b580-content-creation-review/

 

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Really seems like Intel has a solid strategy with their GPUs. Hopefully their current crisis doesn't doom their GPU division.

 

[Comixbooks]

See it's Sold Out everywhere expect for the 400.00 versions. You wonder if Intel can speed up the X3 process to maybe this summer and be competitive with Nvidia.

 

[ChadD]

See it's Sold Out everywhere expect for the 400.00 versions. You wonder if Intel can speed up the X3 process to maybe this summer and be competitive with Nvidia.

Sold out... by all reports though it was basically a paper launch. Intel is loosing money on everyone sold. They haven't exactly flooded the market.

 

[LukeTbk]

that the issue (in term of creating actual pressure, if there is no unit in the shelf it is not actual competition) with the bad margins (if not negative), did not get to do a 4 millions gpu launch type like last time. It depends on how much went into OEM hands, if they had the vast majority it could still have been a significant launch.

 

[TheHig]

It does seem like limited quantities are out there so maybe more of a paper launch than not. My local Microcenter had 7 Asrock Steel legends showing and I got the last one 2 hours after the store opened the other day. At that time it was the only model listed in stock. Today the same MC had 8 of the Sparkle Titan B580s listed in stock and now about 3.5 hours after the store opened they show 4. You can reserve these for pickup but they are in store only so can't be shipped. Seems like MC is either trickling out their stock or maybe they are getting some small restocks? Regardless the few they have seem to be selling the same day they are listed.

 

[erek]

See it's Sold Out everywhere expect for the 400.00 versions. You wonder if Intel can speed up the X3 process to maybe this summer and be competitive with Nvidia.

Sold out... by all reports though it was basically a paper launch. Intel is loosing money on everyone sold. They haven't exactly flooded the market.

It does seem like limited quantities are out there so maybe more of a paper launch than not. My local Microcenter had 7 Asrock Steel legends showing and I got the last one 2 hours after the store opened the other day. At that time it was the only model listed in stock. Today the same MC had 8 of the Sparkle Titan B580s listed in stock and now about 3.5 hours after the store opened they show 4. You can reserve these for pickup but they are in store only so can't be shipped. Seems like MC is either trickling out their stock or maybe they are getting some small restocks? Regardless the few they have seem to be selling the same day they are listed.

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The scalpers botted them all out and people are buying them for nearly double the MSRP now,

 

[LukeTbk]

The scalpers botted them all out and people are buying them for nearly double the MSRP now,

Depends on what one mean by people...
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=intel+B580&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

There is a single card sold today on ebay, 4 yesterday, 3 two days ago.

Maybe on all platform combined it goes up but i doubt we would be able to find many thousands, that close to ~0 card sold to 0 people on ebay, one of the biggest platform.

75,000-110,000 gpu are sold every day on the planet, less than 10 in 3 days on ebay is not some market force (or scalpers buying anything, even when talking about the usually very marginal scalper volume).

 

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The scalpers botted them all out and people are buying them for nearly double the MSRP now,

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It's a fine card for 250. Zero chance id pay more.

 

[ChadD]

The scalpers botted them all out and people are buying them for nearly double the MSRP now,

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Scalpers always end up with a handful. It really doesn't look like this was a massive launch. Single digit stock numbers going to the largest stores in big markets, smaller markets are seeing zero stock.

They haven't made enough of these to make any difference market share wise. I mean obviously that takes a few generations unless all the stars align... lost of stock/good product/market hole to fill. IMO it looks like Intel has a 1.5 of those 3. Its a decent product (as long as your ok with still running into more software issues then the competition) for the buck... there is for sure a big hole in the market it could fill. Stock? I don't think select stores reporting single digits cuts it.

All reports say Intel did not over produce these. IMO they will trickle stock out a bit at a time for 6 months or so, to try and win some mind share at least. The rumors are they loose quite a bit on every one... and when you look at the die size vs what they are selling these for, there is just no way they aren't loosing money. They could hide those losses a bit if they were fabricated at Intel, but they weren't. With all the pressure from investors the last thing Intel is going to do is mass produce millions of $250 GPUs which they probably loose $20-50 on each.

I hope they move enough so they can keep progressing their software development. From listening to their marketing people talk about how Celestial is complete and the design team is on to XE4 work. I imagine unless a new CEO stops them they will be pushing to get the follow up to battle mage out as early as next year. Intel can't afford to go 2 years between battlemage and its follow up. Right now Intel is skating on their BM cards being one upped within a matter of months. I don't see Nvidia doing much to counter Intel really. AMD though? I mean we know they have a 8600xt coming in '25. I'm sure their plan was to sell 8800 and 8700s for awhile first. You know if they dislike Intel even gaining mind share they could just drop the 8600xt right away and match Intels price point. I think that pretty much ends Battle Mage. Intel needs to get those Celestrial cards out by next fall at the latest. Considering the 8600xt is coming so close... they were smart making the B580 the top end. This can leave consumers with the mind share win of... OH look what Intel did in one generation with only 20 cores. Had they done a 32 core B770, it would have gotten compared to the 8700/8800 parts and I have little doubt AMD would have made them look very bad. Better to leave consumers guessing then release a small handful of loosers.

[and I am hoping Intel does get Celestial out next year and it really does trade blows or maybe even betters both AMD and NV we do need the competition... Intel just needs to get something that can really sell at a small profit so shareholders allow an actual market assulting number to be made]

 

[SPARTAN VI]

Scalper/Botters going after a $250 MSRP video card when there are plentiful alternatives. That just about made my day. LMAO

 

[LukeTbk]

are they ?

We need to stop creating narrative for a sample of 2-3 people in the whole United States, because if we do everything always happen.

 

[GoldenTiger]

Intel is loosing money on everyone

They're throwing everyone $100 bills or something?

 

[SPARTAN VI]

are they ?

We need to stop creating narrative for a sample of 2-3 people in the whole United States, because if we do everything always happen.

As of this post, there are exactly 24x listings for Intel Arc B580s on eBay, and every single one ranges from 40-180% mark up. I understand that's not pandemic levels and that they're not turning over quickly, but a spade is a spade. People are scalping them (or at least attempting to) and it's hilarious/pathetic to me.

 

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As of this post, there are exactly 24x listings for Intel Arc B580s on eBay, and every single one ranges from 40-180% mark up. I understand that's not pandemic levels and that they're not turning over quickly, but a spade is a spade. People are scalping them (or at least attempting to) and it's hilarious/pathetic to me.

Here's the thing, to break even they have to have some markups after ebay and paypal fees. There's very little reason to pay a lot for this gpu. These scalpers will probably lose money. I mean, there's better options for 400 bucks.

 

[SPARTAN VI]

Here's the thing, to break even they have to have some markups after ebay and paypal fees. There's very little reason to pay a lot for this gpu. These scalpers will probably lose money. I mean, there's better options for 400 bucks.

Yep, there's a ~13% final value fee, payment processing fee (at least with Paypal), and the matter of shipping. Assuming the seller is offering "free shipping" that's roughly $70-80 in fees and shipping costs when sold at $350. Barely a wee $20-30 profit to the seller, which comes out to pennies/nothing if the seller didn't purchase his stock with a tax exemption. But ebay and couriers are happy to take that deal.

 

[LukeTbk]

As of this post, there are exactly 24x listings for Intel Arc B580s on eBay, and every single one ranges from 40-180% mark up. I understand that's not pandemic levels and that they're not turning over quickly, but a spade is a spade. People are scalping them (or at least attempting to) and it's hilarious/pathetic to me.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Intel+b580&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

I count 7 humans from the USA and China (1.7 billions) having sold a B580 on ebay, a content creator could try to create a story in which people are doing X from that, but why do it for free ?

I mean 24 listing ? On how many hundreds of thousands/millions Intel gpu are planning to sales ?

Would we need actual zero on ebay, to say something launched without being scalped.... (a single one sold yesterday, a single one today...), userfriendly1 and hxnak2024 are indeed trying to scalp them, we could go by name by how little is going on (maybe it is actually occuring on marketplace or other resales platform, but not on ebay).

If we use >0 occurrence, maybe the 4060ti 16gb was scalped on launch....

 

[TheHig]

So it looks like a few are trying to scalp them on ebay and really aren't getting much for the effort right now. As others have stated and I'm coming around to the opinion that there just aren't a ton of these cards available for launch week for whatever reason. Intel certainly timed the launch well beating AMD and Nvidia to the punch with a new under 300USD card but not in large quantities. The 10Gb B570 is due in mid January so not in time for the holidays which really seems like a miss considering the US market and holiday spending that tapers off historically after December.

 

[vegeta535]

Anyone paying willing to pay over $400 for thus card is retarded. Like others said you have many better options start opening up over $400 that are easily available.

 

[SPARTAN VI]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Intel+b580&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

I count 7 humans from the USA and China (1.7 billions) having sold a B580 on ebay, a content creator could try to create a story in which people are doing X from that, but why do it for free ?

I mean 24 listing ? On how many hundreds of thousands/millions Intel gpu are planning to sales ?

Would we need actual zero on ebay, to say something launched without being scalped.... (a single one sold yesterday, a single one today...), userfriendly1 and hxnak2024 are indeed trying to scalp them, we could go by name by how little is going on (maybe it is actually occuring on marketplace or other resales platform, but not on ebay).

If we use >0 occurrence, maybe the 4060ti 16gb was scalped on launch....

If these same 24 listings were posted in our own Hardforum FS/FT section, 100% of them go into the Scalpers Paradise section, do you agree? Split hairs all you want about how few people are scalping, I'm not debating that at all. I was just making a comment based on ebay activity about how silly it is to try to scalp a card in this tier, but I understand you want to debate how insignificantly few scalpers there really are. It's simply tangential to the point I was making.

 

[LukeTbk]

If these same 24 listings were posted in our own Hardforum FS/FT section, 100% of them go into the Scalpers Paradise section, do you agree? Split hairs all you want about how few people are scalping, I'm not debating that at all. I was just making a comment based on ebay activity about how silly it is to try to scalp a card in this tier, but I understand you want to debate how insignificantly few scalpers there really are. It's simply tangential to the point I was making.

More than fair enough (people could mean less peoples that I think the expression usually mean, english is a second language, but 24 listing on this message board would be a giant signal versus 24 worldwide on the biggest reseller platform), the conversation started with that claim above:

The scalpers botted them all out and people are buying them for nearly double the MSRP now,

That way more what I am responding to, according to ebay, about no scalper botted virtually no cards and virtually no one is buying one from them is much closer to what is going on.

Specially considering the volume and demands (even pre-reviews):

View: https://youtu.be/fJVHUOCPT60

as the strong demand exist only at low price obviously, which make scalping them ridiculous despite the big demands, and why we see no scalping going on (at least on ebay)

 

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https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gr...d-be-heading-to-market-though-not-for-gaming/

Well well well...so the real play is being revealed

 

[Sir Beregond]

It does seem like limited quantities are out there so maybe more of a paper launch than not. My local Microcenter had 7 Asrock Steel legends showing and I got the last one 2 hours after the store opened the other day. At that time it was the only model listed in stock. Today the same MC had 8 of the Sparkle Titan B580s listed in stock and now about 3.5 hours after the store opened they show 4. You can reserve these for pickup but they are in store only so can't be shipped. Seems like MC is either trickling out their stock or maybe they are getting some small restocks? Regardless the few they have seem to be selling the same day they are listed.

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Nice. Haven't seen them hit my local MC at all.

So it looks like a few are trying to scalp them on ebay and really aren't getting much for the effort right now. As others have stated and I'm coming around to the opinion that there just aren't a ton of these cards available for launch week for whatever reason. Intel certainly timed the launch well beating AMD and Nvidia to the punch with a new under 300USD card but not in large quantities. The 10Gb B570 is due in mid January so not in time for the holidays which really seems like a miss considering the US market and holiday spending that tapers off historically after December.

Odd card to scalp. It's one thing to scalp a halo product everyone wants because what else are you going to do (thinking 3090, 4090, 5090 level), but a B580? Oh scalp it to $400? Cool, buy a GeForce or AMD card that trounces any sub $300 card.