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Installing the VM client thingy!

rmdashrrootsplat said:
You're in! :D

Either you didn't install a desktop or your Xserver isn't working.

But no worries... I live in the command line. :D

Do the following (Case sensitive):

# mkdir fold
# cd fold
# wget http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/FAH6.02beta1-Linux.tgz
# tar zxvf FAH6.02beta1-Linux.tgz
# chmod +x fah6
# ./fah6 -configonly
# ./fah6 -forceasm -smp -local -verbosity 9
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I keep trying to do the 'wget url' part (Did the first two commands) and even though I've tried four times and the URL is 100% correct case-sensitive and all, it keeps saying:
Resolving www.stanford.edu... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution
[root@Zero fold]#

:( I've now tried five times.. not working.
 
I'm so close to just giving up :( No client will work for me, and I have nothing but problems.
Graphical Client- Nope
SMP- Nope
Text-based- Nope
VM- NO IDEA WTF I AM DOING :(
 
Before we pull hair, let's see from a bird view about your whole setup. Can you elaborate about the setup between the internet tubes down to your boxen (modem, router, switch, computers, etc...) ?

Maybe something is configured weird in the network causing issues, like DNS not configured correctly.

 
Xilikon said:
Before we pull hair, let's see from a bird view about your whole setup. Can you elaborate about the setup between the internet tubes down to your boxen (modem, router, switch, computers, etc...) ?

Maybe something is configured weird in the network causing issues, like DNS not configured correctly.

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What do you mean, exactly?

The cable wire goes into the cable modem, then that connects to the router, which connects to both my new computer and my Dell... That's it..
 
Yes but we need to know what router ?

 
Looks like you don't have any DNS servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf. :(

This is why I recommend Ubuntu or OpenSuse for beginners. CentOS is a bit more technical for those just diving in. Try downloading the 64-bit Ubuntu Desktop iso and give that a try. It's a bit more user friendly IMO and allows you to run it off the CD (iso) just to try it out before installing.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
 
rmdashrrootsplat said:
Looks like you don't have any DNS servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf. :(

This is why I recommend Ubuntu or OpenSuse for beginners. CentOS is a bit more technical for those just diving in. Try downloading the 64-bit Ubuntu Desktop iso and give that a try. It's a bit more user friendly IMO and allows you to run it off the CD (iso) just to try it out before installing.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
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Okay.. I'm downloading Ubuntu now.. But.. I'm even more confused on what to do now. I am still using VMware... right? And do I have to start a new virtual machine? Try to explain everything to me.. if you can ;) And have the time!
 
Syribo said:
Okay.. I'm downloading Ubuntu now.. But.. I'm even more confused on what to do now. I am still using VMware... right? And do I have to start a new virtual machine? Try to explain everything to me.. if you can ;) And have the time!
Click to expand...
Use the same VM... just redirect the "Use ISO image" to the new Ubuntu iso.
 
Ubuntu is pretty much self explanatory during the install. It does pretty much everything for you. I have a CD here so I can walk you through the install process if you run into problems.

YHPM ;)
 
I can also walk you thru as well, I setup with Ubuntu exclusively for the last few months and I remember all the steps ;)

 
Let me make this an Ubuntu trifecta. I've been running it on my main box for at least 6 months now. Whatever question you can come up with, somebody will have an answer for. :D
 
Oh good :) I just finished the installation and rebooted... So.. I hope I can figure out what to do next :p I really don't know how to get F@H working now. If any of you want to type out some exact instructions for me.... I'll love ya long time :D

I'm on the Desktop now.... And well.. How do I setup the internet? Trying to go to a website did not work... And I need to download a F@H client..
 
I've set my VM servers up without the desktop to keep the size down.
Thats why you have no fancy graphics.

Try doing a full install of CentOS.
Just make sure you add the module which gives you the samba access so you can monitor your clients from Windoze.

Look up how to run download and run Finstall.
It the easiest way to install of the folding client and configure it to run as a service.
Edit Link

Luck .......... :D
 
Tigerbiten said:
I've set my VM servers up without the desktop to keep the size down.
Thats why you have no fancy graphics.

Try doing a full install of CentOS.
Just make sure you add the module which gives you the samba access so you can monitor your clients from Windoze.

Look up how to run download and run Finstall.
It the easiest way to install of the folding client and configure it to run as a service.
Edit Link

Luck .......... :D
Click to expand...

I'm talking about Ubuntu now... If you read up, you'll see that I was still having problems with CentOS...

My network is messed up.. and I don't know why :(
 
Normally, Ubuntu will configure itself for internet so it's plug-n-play and if you still have connection issues, my bet is on a misconfigured router not giving settings automatically when a box connect (DHCP enabled).

 
You probably need to setup you network, samba and firewall rules so you can connect outwards and see in from Windoze.
Once you get that part correct then I recomend useing Finstall to install the client.

Luck ............. :D
 
Okay guys, I give up

I've tried everything to try to get my network to work on here, but it just won't. I just give up. I'm going to take a nap because I don't even want to look at my computer screen anymore. All those hours wasted. I hate my network, I hate it.
 
leSLIe said:
what? no!
come on! try a little [H]arder, u can make it :)
Click to expand...

Just woke up from a wonderful nap...

I just can't get any F@H client to work... My network connection is all messed up. I always have problems with the internet... I've redone my entire network over and over again, but everything just always ends up the same.

That's where I'm at right now. I've got all of the clients installed... and none of them work because of my network. I tried disabling my firewall, reinstalling everything.. nothing works! :(
 
Do you have a windows box accessing the internet ?

If yes, open the command prompt, type "ipconfig /all" then paste the whole contents here. We might see what is wrong.

 
Oh.. My.. God..

I just went out to babysit my nieces for a few hours, I come back and my internet is completely fucked up (I never curse, so you can tell that I'm REALLY pissed off right now). I'm tired of having problems with my network. My connection will stop working, for no reason, over and over.. at least a few times a week. Nothing helps it. I try redoing the whole network setup, and it ends up just working again on its own when it feels like it.

And just now the same thing happened. AIM connected, then disconnected, then connected, then disconnected, then connected, over and over and over, just within a few minutes. No websites can be accessed... Nothing can be done. I unplug the modem for a while, unplug the router, turn off the computers, then plug in the modem, wait a while, plug in the router, then turn on the computers.. and sometimes that works.

I'm using Vista on this computer and XP on the other, so should I do the command prompt thing then? I'm actually in tears because I'm so angry. I'm about to uninstall the VMware and everything, and just have my old Dell fold because I can't keep doing this.. I have such bad anxiety, and something like this is making me want to rip my hair out :( I spent so much money on this computer AND on the router AND on the cable internet.. and I'm always having problems. It's just not fair.
 
Xilikon said:
Do you have a windows box accessing the internet ?

If yes, open the command prompt, type "ipconfig /all" then paste the whole contents here. We might see what is wrong.

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Stickable Stars>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Zero
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-DB-5E-EB-71
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-37-42-1D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::7412:5c0e:58a0:b288%8(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.199(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:04:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, May 09, 2008 10:04:01 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet
1
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4077:e0cb:f3ed:e336%16(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.227.54(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet8:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet
8
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-08
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::9007:5490:a7c5:95f3%18(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.85.1(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{E8904035-F54F-4693-BB2E-B860378FD
9E3}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{12279939-DC44-4C26-93B5-9BEC596AC
DAD}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 13:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{03505762-23F8-4755-8A89-C4B76F785
803}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 14:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{CE3D8726-32AB-4703-A849-23BFB7AC8
8A5}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

C:\Users\Stickable Stars>
 
Do you know if you need IPv6 installed for any reason? Like for example, do you use MeetingSpace?
If you don't then at the command promt try typing in "ipv6 uninstall" without quotes or try disabling it in Control Panel.
 
[H]ugh_Freak;1032473192 said:
Do you know if you need IPv6 installed for any reason? Like for example, do you use MeetingSpace?
If you don't then at the command promt try typing in "ipv6 uninstall" without quotes or try disabling it in Control Panel.
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I don't know what IPv6 is.. or MeetingSpace, so no I don't have MeetingSpace installed.
 
Syribo said:
I don't know what IPv6 is.. or MeetingSpace, so no I don't have MeetingSpace installed.
Click to expand...

ok have you tried uninstalling or disabling it then? IPv6 is the "next generation" of Internet Protocol addresses.. all the 192.168.0.1 or anything similar.. thats an IP address. Nearly everything uses IPv4.Some older networks and ISPs may have trouble with it running. Could also check this MS KB article out and see if it helps..http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233
 
[H]ugh_Freak;1032473346 said:
ok have you tried uninstalling or disabling it then? IPv6 is the "next generation" of Internet Protocol addresses.. all the 192.168.0.1 or anything similar.. thats an IP address. Nearly everything uses IPv4.Some older networks and ISPs may have trouble with it running. Could also check this MS KB article out and see if it helps..http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233
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I am trying to do what that link you provided asks to do in the registry.. But I don't understand which GUID it means. There are 5 different Network ones in the 'Interfaces' folder thing... How do you tell which is the one you are supposed to use? The primary one.. How do you know which one?
 
Syribo said:
I am trying to do what that link you provided asks to do in the registry.. But I don't understand which GUID it means. There are 5 different Network ones in the 'Interfaces' folder thing... How do you tell which is the one you are supposed to use? The primary one.. How do you know which one?
Click to expand...

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-92-37-42-1D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::7412:5c0e:58a0:b288%8(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.199(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:04:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, May 09, 2008 10:04:01 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
 
Doesn't help... There are different choices, and it says to pick the one corresponding to the primary network, but I can't tell which that is exactly because while they are all a bit different from one another, they have a lot of things in common too.

reg.jpg
 
I would just try it on all of them. I'm sure some of the 9 Local Area Connections you have going could be deleted as they are probably from your network being all messed up.

What I would honestly do is delete every network connection you have then restart the computer. It will create a new one, or two, depending how many physical network ports you have. That should cut down the listings in the registry and make it easier to troubleshoot.
 
Please don't get overly discouraged just yet.

If the network problems are the reason things are not going right, there are a couple things you can do. First of all, I would disable the Windows firewall and see if that helps anything. There have been many instances where that thing would screw some stuff up.

The second thing I would do is hook the cable modem up directly to the computer you are trying to run this all off of. That is, if the first option did not fix anything. In this scenario we take the router out of the equation.

Eliminating those things may be the proper steps in solving your issues. With the network problems you have mentioned, I would guess (in no particular order) that the problem could lie with the router, the cable modem or software firewall settings on the computer itself. Some routers just don't play nice or you may have a bad one or one that needs its firmware updated. You could also have a bad cable modem. It would definitely not be the first time I've seen this happen.

Just please try these steps one at a time before giving up.

Also, the person that mentioned disabling IPV6 is also on the right track for troubleshooting. I always disable that on all my Linux machines. I don't know if it will actually cause a problem but it will cause (a probably imperceptible slowdown) when resolving addresses since it will try one and then the other. If you know how to get to the network connection properties (sorry I'm at work and can't get screenshots even if I had Vista installed at the moment) it will be easy to disable the IPv6 part. It will just be a checkbox with the IPv4 as well as other options. Uncheck the IPv6 and that is all you will need to do to disable it.

 
Yes, I would follow SmokeRngs advice. Here's the troubleshooting steps to do :

1- Hook a computer directly to the cable modem, reset the cable modem so it read the correct MAC address then see if the connection is ok.
2- If step 1 is ok, hook the router then delete everything in the network connections and reboot. Normally, it will install valid ones (I dunno about the 2 VMNet ones, might have to reinstall VMWare but not a biggie).
3- If it works ok after this, you should be good to go. However, if you still have issues, I would be looking at reflashing the router with a new firmware then do a hard reset. If this doesn't work still, maybe you got a defective router causing your hair loss.

Always work by eliminating a cause at a time to help you narrow the problem enough to pinpoint a single item.

 
The other thing I can think of is to try and setup your samba share in the Linux OS on your VM drive.
Then can you see the Linux VM drive and open it from Windoze and visa versa.
That probably a bit harder to setup if you dont know a lot of Linux.
But the next thing to do after you've finished checking your modem/router.

Luck ................ :D
 
OpenSCManager failed:
Access is denied. (error 5)
Unable to remove the previous installation, install failed.
account (domain\user) [Zero\Stickable Stars]:
password:
confirm password:
passwords don't match, please try again.
account (domain\user) [Zero\Stickable Stars]:
password:
confirm password:
Password encrypted into the Registry.
Unable to connect to 'Zero:8676',
sock error: generic socket failure, error stack:
MPIDU_Sock_post_connect(1228): unable to connect to Zero on port 8676, exhausted
all endpoints (errno -1)
MPIDU_Sock_post_connect(1275): unable to connect to Zero on port 8676, No connec
tion could be made because the target machine actively refused it. (errno 10061)

Press any key to continue . . .

I have been giving it a rest for a day, because I was getting so aggravated ;) Uninstalled all VM and F@H programs, and tried installing the SMP client first to see what happens... The error is a bit different than last time..

I'm going to try just hooking up the cable modem to the computer to see if that will allow the SMP client to connect... I hope I can figure out what is wrong :(
 
When having the cable modem go straight to my computer, I received the same errors still.. same problems. When I rebooted the router and modem and redid the network, it is still giving me the same message.

So... Wtf :(
 
<sigh> I knew I should have saved this from the last few times I posted it, but here goes again.

First, with UAC turned ON make sure you have the admin account pass worded, meaning every time you reboot or log off you must enter your password. This is the only password you will need.

Uninstall any and everything having to do with folding including your folding directory, reboot and try again if certain things won’t uninstall. If after that you still have files in your folding directory start Vista in safe mode (tapping the F-8 key after you reboot), while in safe mode anything that didn’t uninstall will uninstall now.

Restart from there and make sure you need a password to get into the OS.

Now, go into Control Panel and under admin settings uncheck the box marked UAC and you will be forced to reboot, it’s not an option.

Once back in windows NOW download a fresh copy of the SMP beta (use 5.91 for the moment). Double click the file and it should start to install, the default settings for install are fine however you can make a folder under just c;/ and call it folding1 if you like, the install will tell you that folder doesn’t exist so allow it to make one.

Ok, almost over the hump. From your start button under accessories click “command prompt” and in that window type hostname. From the look of things I think you will see something like [Zero\Stickable Stars]. In this case your host name is Stickable Stars. The host name is both case and space sensitive.

Now, go to Windows explorer and navigate to your folding directory and double click install.bat. You will be asked for your hostname. Type in Stickable Stars (assuming that’s what you got from looking at your hostname in the above step. Do NOT enter anything else in here, no / or Zero\Stickable Stars, just Stickable Stars.

Hit enter and it will ask you for a password. This MUST be the same password you use to get into windows, exactly the same and yes, it’s case sensitive. You will be asked to reconfirm your password, to type it again. At that point you should see the msg to the effect that mpi is running and you should see that msg twice. HOWEVER after you see that msg one time your firewall should ask you for permission to continue, tell it yes and as the second msg comes up you should see the firewall again, tell it yes again.

At that point you should see the message hit any key to exit.

Almost done……

Remember, UAC is still turned off, and should be. However, now we want to turn it back on. So, back to Control Panel and put the check mark back in UAC and again, you will be forced to reboot.

Now to config.

In windows explorer open the folding folder and double click on fah.exe and the program should start by asking for your folding name. Enter your name (BillR is another option) Next team 33.

I used CAPS for clarity, use lower case in the setup

Launch as a service NO

Ask before fetching/sending work NO

Use IE settings NO

Use Proxy NO

Allow work greater then 5MB YES

Change advanced options YES

Core Priority IDLE

CPU usage 100

Disable optimized code NO

Pause if battery etc NO

Interval between checkpoints 15 is fine

Memory in MB I use 512 (you can go higher but the SMP client runs fine at 512 or 640)

Request units with out deadlines NO

Set –advmethods etc NO (you can do this later with a flag if you need it)

Ignore any deadlines NO (as long as you are running in windows even with 2 clients)

Machine ID 1


Now, at this point the client should download a core and begin to fold. Allow one or two units to complete then do a ctl+c to shut down the program.

If you are using the quick launch tool bar unlock the tool bar and open the folder. Browse to your folding directory and select fah.exe and continue on until you have the short cut in the quick launch bar.

If you want a desktop short cut do the same thing except from the desktop.

Now, add the –local and –forceasm commands. It should look like this:

"C:\2Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe" -local –forceasm

The first flag should be one space outside the last bracket } –local –forceasm

You should be ready to just double click the shortcut and folding should begin.

Once you get this far leme know and I’ll help you set up client #2;)
 
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