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It's okay, B00nie, we understand. I've been using Mint Linux for the last 4 days now, I've got more track marks than a smack user.
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I have this very same case, haven't used it a while but I liked it. Not the easiest to clean though.
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I haven't had this thing apart in almost 7 years now, (I think, it's been awhile tbh), and it wasn't quite as bad as I figured--except for the cpu, it was well and truly clogged (thanks to the snorkel to the side panel, and no filters). I got one of them fancy new 2tb Micron 1100 SSD's for it, and splurged on a Xeon, a 212Evo, some fans, some filters, a SATA optical drive (yes, those two are ATA), and a fan controller (bling, yes, but will look good).
I'm guessing by the pictures your up and running now ?
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Not fully, I need to install the xeon and other bits. I'm tying out manjaro as we speak, which leads to my question: install before or after I put it all back together?
I've ripped Linux installs out of one machine straight into another machine with different hardware and the OS booted up and ran just fine, Linux is fairly adaptable in that regard.
You should be able to install the OS before changing hardware no problem.
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Weeellll... it's gonna go the other way, this rig's got it's guts ripped out this afternoon, cleaned up some more (pics of carnage to follow), and I've got the Xeon et al in & ready to go, just need to finish tying up the wiring & fire it up & hope it works.
Pic porn commences:
Ugh, I think I let it run on the original Intel thermal compound just a bit too long...
Cleaned i7-920, looks like the day it was installed:
The Xeon, in all it's used glory:
Arctic MX-4, supposed to be pretty good, I didn't dare run liquid metal because part of the hs block is aluminum:
Hyper 212 Evo installed, what a pain in the ass, the instructions blow chunks:
Fan under the CPU, I feel this helps a good bit. The filter is attached with that clear DS tape, and cannot hit the fan blades:
Filter for the back fan (120mm; the blue ones are 140s), and how I cut it down & fit it for a 120mm fan; all intake fans got the same treatment:
Blingy fan controller, but it's gonna look good. Gotta figure a place for the temp probe, too:
Oh, the devastation, the carnage. But it's going together well so far:
A bit of tension bracing to try stabilizing the cooler:
4870 getting its TC replaced, no crustiness there:
More to come as I wrap this up tomorrow.
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Thanks, when I learned how well they run at stock, and how well they OC, and how cheap they were (I'm only working part-time atm), I was all over it. Funny thing is, I never OC'd the 920, it always delivered the performance I needed, even tho it was thermal throttling.
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I've never understood why everyone seems to recommend Mint for beginner use. Ubuntu Mate has been way more reliable and easy to set up in my opinion.
There really is nothing special about Mint that makes it any more suitable as a beginner distro in comparison to any of the other Ubuntu flavors. I don't really understand this either?
Buuut, you've gotta start somewhere so it may as well be Minty!
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I started with Ubuntu-MATE and ran into a assload of problems after an update. Never could get them all sorted out. Main problem was VirtualBox quit working and in spite of help from here and other forums, I could not get it to work. Dumped Ubuntu and loaded Mint-MATE and everything has worked flawlessly ever since including VirtualBox . Of course I turned off all updates. if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Why use virtualbox when you can run libvirtd and virtman much easier?
This was answered in Post #195 on Page 5. Hope this helps.
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Sorry man, I use what I damn well please. It's just the way I am.
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Finally done, got it back together & running. Only had to yank one of the side panel fans because the Evo hit it.
Gonna have to figure out something for that.
Perty much buttoned up:
Ooohhh, teh blingies:
Oops, didn't realize the Evo was gonna interfere with the fan. Gotta figure that one out, tho I may never have room unless I swage those openings outward with a press:
Backside cable "management", note the filter on the MB backside fan:
All disks reported, #6 is the ESATA port on top of the case:
Yep, it's a real live Xeon! The OC party line forms to the left:
The carnage of all this work:
Blingy blue goodness:
Fan controller in action, this is the NXZT Sentry 3, with full touch-screen control:
Gonna have to figure out something for that. Perty much buttoned up:
Ooohhh, teh blingies:
Oops, didn't realize the Evo was gonna interfere with the fan. Gotta figure that one out, tho I may never have room unless I swage those openings outward with a press:
Backside cable "management", note the filter on the MB backside fan:
All disks reported, #6 is the ESATA port on top of the case:
Yep, it's a real live Xeon! The OC party line forms to the left:
The carnage of all this work:
Blingy blue goodness:
Fan controller in action, this is the NXZT Sentry 3, with full touch-screen control:
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I'll download it and check it out, thanks.
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Mint to me seems to more complete & polished, if that makes any sense. I haven't seen uMATE yet, but compared to Manjaro, Mint is years ahead, and easier to manage from an ex-Winblows refugee's POV.
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"Mint-MATE"... hmmmm, I'll have to look into that... <_< >_>
Edit: shit, no Allnighte smiley, gotta fake it...
Ubuntu Mate is a nice distro, very stable, very polished and if you don't like the way it looks you can go crazy with customization.
When it comes to Ubuntu and starting out, if you want stability try to stick to the LTS builds. The good thing about starting with Ubuntu based distro's is there's no end of community support, almost every issue can be Googled.
When it comes to Ubuntu and starting out, if you want stability try to stick to the LTS builds. The good thing about starting with Ubuntu based distro's is there's no end of community support, almost every issue can be Googled.
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Welp, I went and installed Mint tonight, a bit of a fight because I accidentally installed the 32bit version first, and had to do it all over again. But, finally got it installed cleanly, even got the wireless printer drivers installed (straight from Brother, even), & printed a few things. Very nice.
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Brother printers are one of the few with dedicated Linux drivers. Even so, I had an issue here and there setting it up. It seems I have to learn something new at every turn with this OS.
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I started to install from within the OS, but that got hung up, so I went to their website & grabbed their Linux installer, which freaked me out because the extracted files were *.deb, & it was SUPPOSED to be a *.rpm. But it installed just fine, and I even did it from the COMMAND LINE! =O
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*.deb files are for Debian distros, which Ubuntu is a derivative of. I don't recall what *.rpm files are for.. maybe Redhat or Suse.
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Thanks, I couldn't remember either, the last time I messed with Linux was an early version of Mint (iirc) that I installed on a Sony Vaio 13" laptop with the detachable ODD & FD in a base piece.
Install Gdebi, then you don't have to install .deb files from terminal. To install Gdebi just open a terminal window and type 'sudo apt install gdebi'.
Makes things appear far more user friendly, although once you get used to the terminal you work out that it's just a method used to interact with the operating system that you're not used to and it becomes far less intimidating.
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Yeah, I was quite surprised when my Samsung laser printer was picked up in Ubuntu and I could print right away without even installing drivers. Things have come a long way.
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Brother, I cut my teeth on TRS-DOS, and occasionally dream wistfully of the days of PC-Dos or DR-DOS (no, i won't acknowledge M$-DOS, in fear of invoking that HeadlessSon shill again), the only real stumbling block is juts flat out learning all the weird little commands one has to use to get things done (I needed to format the SSD from Mint without using GParted, and I couldn't do it 'cuz I didn't know what to use--yes, I know, "Google", but I was operating on 4 hours sleep & barely conscious.Install Gdebi, then you don't have to install .deb files from terminal. To install Gdebi just open a terminal window and type 'sudo apt install gdebi'.
Makes things appear far more user friendly, although once you get used to the terminal you work out that it's just a method used to interact with the operating system that you're not used to and it becomes far less intimidating.
).But, I'll snag Gdebi shortly, and keep trying to learn the rest (old age sucks
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No shit, my Brother is a wifi-connected laser printer, which I LOVE, and works flawlessly in Android and winblows.
Now to find drivers for a wireless Kensington Expert Mouse... <_< >_>
EDIT: hey, aren't MacOS drivers Debian in essence?
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So how does a guy, an ordinary Joe like myself, get a display like this?
Which brings up: remember WinV and Win7 gadgets? I had a nice set on the right of my desktop (clock; GPU monitor; CPU monitor; shortcut buttons for logout/shutdown/switch user/task manager, etc); is there anything similar for Linux?
Which brings up: remember WinV and Win7 gadgets? I had a nice set on the right of my desktop (clock; GPU monitor; CPU monitor; shortcut buttons for logout/shutdown/switch user/task manager, etc); is there anything similar for Linux?
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I do not love Linux but, then again, I have not 'loved" an OS since the Amiga and OS/2 Warp days.
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There is an application called Conky (or Conkey) that I think will do that. It has been a while since I did anything like that. There used to be a scripting thing that I used, but again that was years ago.
It's not the same thing but you might look up gkrellm. I've been using that for system monitoring for years. I also use it in Windows even though it's always been a little buggy for Windows.
The easiest and best way to use Conky is to install Conky Manager, without Conky Manager configuring Conky is a bit of a chore.
Note:
- The first line adds the repository to your list of sources.
- The second line updates your database instructing the OS what packages can be installed and where to install them from.
- The third line downloads and installs conky-manager.
Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:teejee2008/ppa
sudo apt update
sudo apt install conky-managerNote:
- The first line adds the repository to your list of sources.
- The second line updates your database instructing the OS what packages can be installed and where to install them from.
- The third line downloads and installs conky-manager.
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Nowadays Conky always reminds me of Trailer Park Boys.
Conky's a stage all Linux converts have to go through, it's all pretty cool until that one day when you realize you don't want/need all that stuff over your desktop - I admit, it was a stage I went through!
It's all good though! Install software! Install from .deb's using the terminal, install from .deb using Gdebi, install using the terminal via apt - Only by repetition will the penny drop in relation to the OS and it's usage.
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So far, I've had issues with installing Conky and the manager, I'm not sure why, I was just too tired to futz with it any more last night.
You only need to install Conky Manager, you don't need to install Conky separately.
I just installed it via terminal using the commands posted above and added the PPA, updated the database and installed Conky Manager just fine. I'll never use it, but it installed perfectly using apt.
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I got some kind of error messages, I'll try it again, I don't think it installed.
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I'm a huge fan of any Arch Linux distro, which right now I'm running Manjaro Deepin (testing branch) with the Intel Clear kernel on my laptop. Works great for what I need it for & dual booted with Windows 10.
As far as Ubuntu & Mint go, I've avoided them for a long time after having massive headaches with trying to go with mainline kernels & PPAs. Somehow, the last few times I ended with smouldering piles of Linux. That's why I've stuck with Arch thanks to pacman/trizen & AUR for installing software.
As far as Ubuntu & Mint go, I've avoided them for a long time after having massive headaches with trying to go with mainline kernels & PPAs. Somehow, the last few times I ended with smouldering piles of Linux. That's why I've stuck with Arch thanks to pacman/trizen & AUR for installing software.