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I can't wait for OLED monitors

IceWind said:
Bah, SED will be even better and out sooner.

It would be nice!

Anyone have any guesses on SED's? I thought for sure that the OLED's would be out sooner. DOH!
 
The girls in those pictures are god damn hot! :D




But, back to the topic... It looks like a great image.


But I don't think I'll ever give up my CRT TVs or monitors.


Their big, and their bulky, and they have a fat ass, but for what I pay for them, I like the size [ Makes my money more justified then a slim little piece of paper on the wall :p ]


And they just produce such a great picture for the price.... I can't imagine anything surpasing CRT in my eyes as far as quality goes, atleast for a long long time.
 
I think I'm a little more interested in OLED's...

CRT's are great and all, but if I could have an LCD with perfect viewing angles and absolutely no blurring ghosting i'd go with that over a smaller CRT...

I don't have a technical explanation, but all I know is I can stare at my LCD for a few hours and my eyes dont get tired like they do with CRT's
 
Spleeze said:
I think I'm a little more interested in OLED's...

CRT's are great and all, but if I could have an LCD with perfect viewing angles and absolutely no blurring ghosting i'd go with that over a smaller CRT...

I don't have a technical explanation, but all I know is I can stare at my LCD for a few hours and my eyes dont get tired like they do with CRT's


Your not running the CRTs at 60Hz refresh rate are you?
 
SED will be back to analog/flicker effect/eye strain/radiation/heat all over again...no thanks

At least this is what it seems to me...basically a slim CRT.

I personally love my DVI LCD and any similiar technology. At this point I would never go back to CRT tech.
 
mike_j_johnson said:
SED will be back to analog/flicker effect/eye strain/radiation/heat all over again...no thanks

At least this is what it seems to me...basically a slim CRT.

I personally love my DVI LCD and any similiar technology. At this point I would never go back to CRT tech.


You don't have to worry about Radiation, unless you press your nose against the screen 23 hours a day :eek:


And it's better then plasma which can't replicate true black unless you pay 40,000dollars.


or LCDs who depend on backlights, and have the risk of pixels dying.
 
A CRT with ungrounded power supply might emit some radiation, for all I know, but otherwise, no. The tiredness people speak of is likely connected to the bluriness and lower refresh rate of older CRT. I don't see why SED should suffer from these problems.
 
mike_j_johnson said:
SED will be back to analog
SED displays are driven digitally, as the electron emitters are arranged in a matrix, like the transistors of an LCD.
/flicker effect
Individual pixels are driven directly, so there's no noticable flickering.
/eye strain
From the blurring and flicker-free, ultra-sharp image?
/radiation
Unlike CRTs, SEDs do not produce X-rays or any other EM radiation, aside from light (photons), just like an LCD, plasma, etc.
/heat all over again...no thanks
An SED display uses 2/3th the energy of an LCD display, and 1/3th of a plasma one of comparable size.

At least this is what it seems to me...basically a slim CRT.
Well, in essence it uses the same principle, only it's a million times more efficient, solving virtually all of the problems of CRTs.
I personally love my DVI LCD and any similiar technology. At this point I would never go back to CRT tech.
Just wait until you've seen an SED display sitting next to an LCD and plasma one. It'll blow you away.
 
BeHardware have done a review of a prototype Lumiled display here:

http://www.behardware.com/articles/570/page1.html

IMG0012722.jpg


It's a 21" TFT model number LCD2180WG LED. It's going to have a hefty price tag for sure, but it is interesting to see the improvements we can look forward to with this change in technology. Eventually LED backlighting will be widespread and in the affordable market :)

The panel in this NEC is an IPS panel, and while the blacks are good, there is room for improvement, especially when compared with modern VA variants. They compare the colours with a CRT, a VA panel and a TN panel and while the colours are very rich with the LED backlighting, they are not as accurately produced as some of the other displays. This is more a flaw of the IPS panel though.

anyway, worth a read for those intersted :)
 
Elledan, have you seen the SED in action? I'm curious. Do you know when it will be available for computer monitors at a reasonable price? I only know that toshiba is planning to launch a SED TV this year (news from late 2004). It should be out soon if what they said holds, but the price would be high they said.

Initial impression from a AV-mag can be found here: http://www.ultimateavmag.com/news/011705PPCES/

Look promising, but full production will be in 2007 :( so do i wan't to have my old CRT monitor until then? I'ts gonna be a looooong wait, at least 3 year to be realistic. I suspect a nice LCD is the only choice for a while.
 
jienn said:
Elledan, have you seen the SED in action? I'm curious. Do you know when it will be available for computer monitors at a reasonable price? I only know that toshiba is planning to launch a SED TV this year (news from late 2004). It should be out soon if what they said holds, but the price would be high they said.

Initial impression from a AV-mag can be found here: http://www.ultimateavmag.com/news/011705PPCES/

Look promising, but full production will be in 2007 :( so do i wan't to have my old CRT monitor until then? I'ts gonna be a looooong wait, at least 3 year to be realistic. I suspect a nice LCD is the only choice for a while.

Hence why I personally decided to go LCD now, I simpyl couldn't stand my CRT any longer and I have absolutely no regrets with my L90D+
 
Yeah, they "should" be cheaper to buy. Doesnt mean they will. Take DVD's and CD's for an example of this. Better quality, lower producing costs, yet higher prices. Because they are better.
 
IceWind said:
Hence why I personally decided to go LCD now, I simpyl couldn't stand my CRT any longer and I have absolutely no regrets with my L90D+

What was wrong with your crt?
 
Elledan said:
Do CRTs have dead pixels? ;)

yes they do.. the phospher burns out.. I have a dead pixel on this viewsonic here and a friend of mine also has a viewsonic with the same prob, but my viewsonic at home is perfect
 
The problem with _my_ CRT is that it's slowly losing sharpness. And after all years im getting tired to the "bzzz" noise it make. I am also getting tired of having to sit half sideways against the desk because the monitor is too big to have it properly set up. One other reason is that when working i need a bigger resolution.

So im i only looking for excuses so that i can spend money on a new sexy monitor? Well i don't think so. I love this Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 900u, and it will take a very good LCD to make me change.

We got Samsung 710n :s at univ. and i would never get one of those for example!

My interest is right now at Apple Cinema Displays and Dells WS. Price difference isn't much between those where i live. Still much money to pay for technology inferior to CRT in many cases. But they are sleek, and have enough resolution.
 
IceWind said:
Heres a techno diagram on how SED works. By far, once its out in force, its gonna blow Plasma, LED, OLED and CRT completely away. This IS the future of displays, period.

SED Technology Background

Basically it sounds like a flatscreen CRT. The only reason I'd ever use a CRT is to eliminate ghosting and have better viewing angles. If the LCD comapnies can get rid of those two things, it will blow a slim CRT away. The "still frame" picture quality on a CRT is just awful, and i hate looking at them anymore since I've been useing LCDs. The image just seems so dull.
 
jienn said:
I am also getting tired of having to sit half sideways against the desk because the monitor is too big to have it properly set up..
Why wouldn't you push the desk out from against the wall? :confused:
 
IceWind said:
To big, bulky, noisey and heat producing. Sick of the fishbowl curve effect. Looked ugly on my new desk.
I've two 17" flatscreen, SM CRTs on my desk, and while I won't claim that they aren't big, bulky (heavy) and double as space heaters, I won't switch to LCDs because they're simply too expensive for my current budget, I'm not satisfied with the image quality of sub-$400 LCD displays (my CRTs together cost me under 300 Euro) and I'm not prepared to deal with issues like brightness spots, dead pixels, ghosting/smearing, washed out colours, etc.

I wouldn't mind reclaiming some more desk space, but right now it just wouldn't make sense.

Syndicated_Death said:
yes they do.. the phospher burns out.. I have a dead pixel on this viewsonic here and a friend of mine also has a viewsonic with the same prob, but my viewsonic at home is perfect
Eventually the phosphor dots will fade, yes, but this takes hundreds of thousands of hours. SED (and NED, and FED) displays will also use the same phosphor, so my point stands ;)
 
Elledan said:
I've two 17" flatscreen, SM CRTs on my desk, and while I won't claim that they aren't big, bulky (heavy) and double as space heaters, I won't switch to LCDs because they're simply too expensive for my current budget, I'm not satisfied with the image quality of sub-$400 LCD displays (my CRTs together cost me under 300 Euro) and I'm not prepared to deal with issues like brightness spots, dead pixels, ghosting/smearing, washed out colours, etc.

I wouldn't mind reclaiming some more desk space, but right now it just wouldn't make sense.
;)

To each his own, i'll never own a CRT ever again.
 
jienn said:
Elledan, have you seen the SED in action?
Not personally, but everyone who has seen such a comparison as I described was blown away by the clear differences.
I'm curious. Do you know when it will be available for computer monitors at a reasonable price? I only know that toshiba is planning to launch a SED TV this year (news from late 2004). It should be out soon if what they said holds, but the price would be high they said.
I've no idea yet when sub-30" displays will be manufactured, all I know is that 50+" displays (HDTVs) will become available for sale around Q2 2006. Since the HDTV market (home theaters and such) enjoys its high profit margins there's little doubt that these initial SED displays will be priced equally to similarly sized displays.

An advantage of SED is that in mass-production it's many times cheaper to produce than comparable LCD and plasma displays, so with a bit of competition, prices could come down rapidly.

Initial impression from a AV-mag can be found here: http://www.ultimateavmag.com/news/011705PPCES/

Look promising, but full production will be in 2007 :( so do i wan't to have my old CRT monitor until then? I'ts gonna be a looooong wait, at least 3 year to be realistic. I suspect a nice LCD is the only choice for a while.
Stick with a good CRT unless you need the space that badly. Don't forget that for the price of a single good (17+", non-TN) LCD, you can buy a very good CRT. It's not like the difference in power usage of CRTs and LCDs will kill you either.
 
IceWind said:
To each his own, i'll never own a CRT ever again.
You'll better stay away from SED, FED and NED displays then :p
 
logo29a said:
It would be nice!

Anyone have any guesses on SED's? I thought for sure that the OLED's would be out sooner. DOH!
SEDs are comin out Q4 2005. as said before, full production (cheaper costs, more options) will be available in 2007. :)
 
I think my 2405FPW will be enough to hold me over until the prices of SED's come down, so far I haven't really been overly impressed with the images I've seen though. Something about the glass panel over the image that bugs me and reminds me of cheapo CRTs.
 
jon_k said:
Basically it sounds like a flatscreen CRT. The only reason I'd ever use a CRT is to eliminate ghosting and have better viewing angles. If the LCD comapnies can get rid of those two things, it will blow a slim CRT away. The "still frame" picture quality on a CRT is just awful, and i hate looking at them anymore since I've been useing LCDs. The image just seems so dull.

You obviously know nothing about SED technology.

An SED will have faster response times, better viewing angles, better color rendition, better contrast, and better blacks than LCD technology ever will. Once SED's start coming out there will be little reason to buy LCD's, period. There is so much money invested in LCD technology that I'm afraid it may delay SED technology. On the other hand, whoever gets there new tech out first will have a pretty advantageous head start.
 
IceWind said:
To each his own, i'll never own a CRT ever again.

Does this include SED's? They're basically nothing more than a matrix of tiny CRT's. :cool:
 
jienn said:
I would but have no space left...i live in a student apartement...
Oh, I see. You know, there are people out there who wouldn't have thought of that ;)
 
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