I Bought a RTX 3080 Today!

I Bought a RTX 3080 Today!

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Let's be honest anyone here lucky enough to buy one should really consider flipping it for a profit. Don't even bother opening it.

If you have a chance to make even a few hundred bucks on these that's great. If you can make a few thousand and don't even bother trying you're doing yourself a disservice.

Take the profit and do something good with it if you feel at all guilty. But you shouldn't.
 
Axman said:
Let's be honest anyone here lucky enough to buy one should really consider flipping it for a profit. Don't even bother opening it.

If you have a chance to make even a few hundred bucks on these that's great. If you can make a few thousand and don't even bother trying you're doing yourself a disservice.

Take the profit and do something good with it if you feel at all guilty. But you shouldn't.
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I don't feel guilty.
 
I thought I'd use my 10% bday coupon at best buy on a TV and get Ampere whenever.... Cant' use it on Samsung TVs. :(

So I need a 3080 or 3090 sometime in Sept. If you guys could stop f5'ing.. thanks. ;)

Also, my 8008 message! BooB!
 
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ghostwich said:
Rolling in the mud with pigs gets you dirty and makes the pigs happy for the company :)
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I am not normally bothered by scalping. But it is tiring to see this shit happen again and again...

However, people that are selling “guaranteed pre orders” that ship between now and 30 November... People can fuck with them as much as they want.
 
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Refreshed Newegg app 5 mins before, add to cart popped up and once clicked it just kept loading. The website had many issues. Oh well guess I’ll keep my 2080ti
 
Seems they sent most of their stock to reviewers/influencers iso trying to get money for them, their loss I guess
 
Hakaba said:
I am not normally bothered by scalping. But it is tiring to see this shit happen again and again...

However, people that are selling “guaranteed pre orders” that ship between now and 30 November... People can fuck with them as much as they want.
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They can mess with anyone selling, open an account bid and don't pay. The process on ebay for resolving a no payment takes a while.
 
Bravo25 said:
I don't feel guilty.
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I don't have a problem with individuals deciding to flip something in demand. Now the organized, script-fu scalping is a different thing. Same thing if someone works at a retailer and purposefully works with scalpers.

But like, if you legit bought one, then saw these prices after the fact...I'm not going to fault anyone for realizing that they essentially got a card at a discount, even if that discount was full MSRP.
 
Axman said:
Let's be honest anyone here lucky enough to buy one should really consider flipping it for a profit. Don't even bother opening it.

If you have a chance to make even a few hundred bucks on these that's great. If you can make a few thousand and don't even bother trying you're doing yourself a disservice.

Take the profit and do something good with it if you feel at all guilty. But you shouldn't.
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I hear what you're saying, but the words of Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon 2 when told to take the baddies money and do something good with it... "Blood money." I've got two arriving shortly, one of which is going to my coworker for face value who couldn't get away from a meeting.
 
Went to work this morning expecting low availability, get back home and it would seem so. But damn Nvidia you need to go speak with a urologist who specializes in dysfunction.
 
harmattan said:
I hear what you're saying, but the words of Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon 2 when told to take the baddies money and do something good with it... "Blood money." I've got two arriving shortly, one of which is going to my coworker for face value who couldn't get away from a meeting.
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Hey, if you agreed to get one for him and then reneged on the deal, that would be a jerk move.

But if these are really flipping for a couple grand, that's not blood money. That's just money. If these are really flipping for tens of thousands of dollars, well...

Sell it and buy Nvidia stock, save that cash for a rainy day. Or get a whole new computer, make a few car payments, pay off some bills and some debt.

Also dicking around with auctions is tortious interference. Yeah I'm sure they won't get caught, but that's actually criminal.
 
Westwood Arrakis said:
That $80k can't be legit....
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No, it's a fake bid made by a fake account. Pretty much guarantees nobody else will bid on the card and the maggot POS scalper won't get paid. Yeah the maggot can just put it up for sale again but it is some small consolation that the piece of garbage gets some form of payback.
 
Axman said:
Hey, if you agreed to get one for him and then reneged on the deal, that would be a jerk move.

But if these are really flipping for a couple grand, that's not blood money. That's just money. If these are really flipping for tens of thousands of dollars, well...

Sell it and buy Nvidia stock, save that cash for a rainy day. Or get a whole new computer, make a few car payments, pay off some bills and some debt.

Also dicking around with auctions is tortious interference. Yeah I'm sure they won't get caught, but that's actually criminal.
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Have you sold anything on eBay lately for more than $500? I can't remember the last time I actually had a smooth transaction without a non-paying bidder.
 
DejaWiz said:
These retailers don't care. It's instant revenue and profit for them so that they can rejoice over their stock prices rising by an eighth of a percent.
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Retailers I get but what about Nvidia? It's the same shit on their store. And it's their brand and credibility that's getting fucked.
 
MangoSeed said:
Retailers I get but what about Nvidia? It's the same shit on their store. And it's their brand and credibility that's getting fucked.
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nVidia is a retailer, by the very definition of them selling their products directly.
 
MangoSeed said:
How hard is it for these stores to force manual verification for these purchases? It's not like bots are a new thing. Wtf.
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I only see two paths to this getting fixed and they both rely on someone wanting a piece of the money pie that the scalpers are getting.

1) Some retailer decides to make a purchase system that is friendly to real users rather than to flippers because the thing of value to them is the loyal repeat customers, or because they bake in a small premium to keep the scalpers out. As an example, lets just say Costco decided to sell to members only at MSRP because they bought enough to negotiate a good price from a vendor AND they knew it would drive sales of memberships. Then limit it to two per member. Or even one. I'm pretty sure they would sell a shit ton of $60 memberships just for that and make a lot of existing members like them even more. Or hey. Epic wants to drop cash on competitive intrusion, they should get into the retail video game card biz. Let you buy the card vai the epic game store, and require that your account be at least a year old or have $100 in purchase history to order, and limit you to one card. BAM! Gamers love you, and there's now a barrier to spinning up bots and a real cost to abuse the system. I bet you if there are any people still resisting EGS being a thing, this would cut that number a fair bit.

2) Nvidia would rather get a bigger cut of the pie, or at least not be seen as assholes. So they just turn the founder's edition into something sold only by them, via a system that is designed to make scalpers lives suck. This will really only happen if they feel there will be some kind of backlash for it. Outside of publicity, basically there would have to be some way for the fact that scalpers are making $1000 margin per card and NVIDIA isn't be a thing that shareholders are very, very pissed at.
 
Bots rule the purchasing world for scalpers and miners bot need to be dragged and shot
 
I can't believe that these stores can't put in some anti-bot technology. I mean, social media sites like Facebook and Google monitor how long you're on a page. Why can't the stores do something similar? Except, if you happen to complete your order in under 5 seconds, from placing in the cart to purchasing, just outright ban you for 30 minutes. Yes, some users who have superhuman reflexes would be affected, but it's not like they would have bought them anyway against bots which can still acquire the cards before them.

And while it wouldn't stop botters, it would slow them down a little bit to put them into more of a lottery situation than currently where they're grabbing everything available.
 
Reminds me of the day Ryzen 9 3900 came out.
They were sold out 5 minutes before I arrived at a local Microcenter. Instead, I was able to snatch one from a reseller on Amazon. A lot of people questioned the reseller's legitimacy because they were selling at the MSRP when others were price gouging.
 
I was incredibly lucky and managed to get one from EVGA directly.

I had a few browser windows open and ready at 9am EST, in order of preferred card and retailer options. Got an XC3 Black in to my cart on Best Buy, but then checkout wouldn't let me select delivery to my address, and all the suggested in store options also errored out. I'm assuming it just sold out before I could finish.

By that time, NewEgg was just constantly going down, Best Buy and EVGA were out of stock, and Nvidia was still listing "notify me", not purchase.

I kept refreshing EVGA in case as the site was going up and down, and eventually the XC3 Ultra showed add to cart instead of out of stock. It took about 2 minutes per click to get through each page of the checkout process, including a couple of refreshes (at one point the site down page started showing, but I was still able to resume).

While I do not have a tracking number yet, the order is now listed in the complete section, and it states it has shipped and is awaiting UPS pickup. I splurged and went for next day air, so crossing my fingers I may see it sometime late tomorrow. I'm very excited, as this is replacing a 980ti that recently died on me.
 
kirbyrj said:
Have you sold anything on eBay lately for more than $500? I can't remember the last time I actually had a smooth transaction without a non-paying bidder.
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I sell on ebay regularly and haven't had an issue with a payment in a long time.

raz-0 said:
I only see two paths to this getting fixed and they both rely on someone wanting a piece of the money pie that the scalpers are getting.

1) Some retailer decides to make a purchase system that is friendly to real users rather than to flippers because the thing of value to them is the loyal repeat customers, or because they bake in a small premium to keep the scalpers out. As an example, lets just say Costco decided to sell to members only at MSRP because they bought enough to negotiate a good price from a vendor AND they knew it would drive sales of memberships. Then limit it to two per member. Or even one. I'm pretty sure they would sell a shit ton of $60 memberships just for that and make a lot of existing members like them even more. Or hey. Epic wants to drop cash on competitive intrusion, they should get into the retail video game card biz. Let you buy the card vai the epic game store, and require that your account be at least a year old or have $100 in purchase history to order, and limit you to one card. BAM! Gamers love you, and there's now a barrier to spinning up bots and a real cost to abuse the system. I bet you if there are any people still resisting EGS being a thing, this would cut that number a fair bit.

2) Nvidia would rather get a bigger cut of the pie, or at least not be seen as assholes. So they just turn the founder's edition into something sold only by them, via a system that is designed to make scalpers lives suck. This will really only happen if they feel there will be some kind of backlash for it. Outside of publicity, basically there would have to be some way for the fact that scalpers are making $1000 margin per card and NVIDIA isn't be a thing that shareholders are very, very pissed at.
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The issue for retailers, is that legitimate customers might also buy other things for heir rigs, like a new psu, maybe a new cpu, ect, after having a good experience with that purchased videocard. Now none of those retailers will make a dime from the scalpers spreading the cards around. A customer is the most valuable thing to any company, and not being able to engage that customer, or giving them a bad experience with your sales practices, will turn them away long term.
 
oldmanbal said:
The issue for retailers, is that legitimate customers might also buy other things for heir rigs, like a new psu, maybe a new cpu, ect, after having a good experience with that purchased videocard. Now none of those retailers will make a dime from the scalpers spreading the cards around. A customer is the most valuable thing to any company, and not being able to engage that customer, or giving them a bad experience with your sales practices, will turn them away long term.
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Exactly but at the end of the day how long am I really gonna stay mad at Newegg? It’s not like I’ll write them off forever because of one fucked up product launch. We won’t stay mad at Nvidia that long either. Sad state of affairs.
 
If any of these retailers actually cared they could implement full ID verification pre-orders. You have to prove who you are, provide a credit card, a shipping address, and record IP, THEN pass a tough captcha to prove you are human. If any one of those things come up again in another sale, you don't get another card. I mean you don't get another one for a WEEK or two or even a month.

And it needs to make sure you don't buy any of the other versions of the same card.

This would by its nature slow any attempt to bot purchase. You'd have to have multiple credit cards, names, shipping addresses, AND force IP address changes between purchases AND have a person pass the captcha. That would slow things up a lot. The rest of us, would be HAPPY about it.

I'd go so far as to provide ID for situations as volatile as this launch is. It would be better than what just happened.
 
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