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HTC One Watch Thread
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wanna hear a story guys? i went to the ATT store last night to pick up the phone. i picked up a screen protector and figured, aw why the hell not, let the guy do it.
mistake #1. he did a piss poor job. tried convincing me all the hail sized bubbles would go away when i know for a fact they dont (not at that size), having worked with that particular brand. to make things worse, his colleague was doing the same for another customer which had few to no bubbles. at least he gave up and gave me a free protector, cool.
mistake #2. he SCUFFED the phone (omfg wtf asdklfjasdl;k). i walked away to check out upgrades for my parents only to come back seeing him working on the phone against the bare table - i'm not OCD (maybe sometimes,
) but this was a shockingly new low of NO COMMON SENSE!!!! first thought in my head is "probably not a good idea but minimal damage with minimal movement, hopefully" but no, he kept going at it up and down with the rubber applicator trying to remove the hail sized bubbles he was initially so confident would go away. i corrected him and he obliged with an "oh.. yeah".
i didn't see it at the store but when i got home, there was indeed a length-wise inch long scuff on the back side of the phone.
to finish things off, he starts jumping through the startup wizard, messing with settings and shit, assuming i'm as incompetent as he is. maybe ya'll aren't bothered by this but i prefer to set up phones by myself. ya know... its just somethign that comes with the new-ness of a device ive anticipated for a while.
well there's my rant. first world problems? maybe. but this is [H]. no, scratch that. any decent person with an ounce of respect for electronics should have more common sense in care and handling. i'm going back in today for an exchange. clumsy a** incompetent people.
mistake #1. he did a piss poor job. tried convincing me all the hail sized bubbles would go away when i know for a fact they dont (not at that size), having worked with that particular brand. to make things worse, his colleague was doing the same for another customer which had few to no bubbles. at least he gave up and gave me a free protector, cool.
mistake #2. he SCUFFED the phone (omfg wtf asdklfjasdl;k). i walked away to check out upgrades for my parents only to come back seeing him working on the phone against the bare table - i'm not OCD (maybe sometimes,
) but this was a shockingly new low of NO COMMON SENSE!!!! first thought in my head is "probably not a good idea but minimal damage with minimal movement, hopefully" but no, he kept going at it up and down with the rubber applicator trying to remove the hail sized bubbles he was initially so confident would go away. i corrected him and he obliged with an "oh.. yeah".i didn't see it at the store but when i got home, there was indeed a length-wise inch long scuff on the back side of the phone.
to finish things off, he starts jumping through the startup wizard, messing with settings and shit, assuming i'm as incompetent as he is. maybe ya'll aren't bothered by this but i prefer to set up phones by myself. ya know... its just somethign that comes with the new-ness of a device ive anticipated for a while.
well there's my rant. first world problems? maybe. but this is [H]. no, scratch that. any decent person with an ounce of respect for electronics should have more common sense in care and handling. i'm going back in today for an exchange. clumsy a** incompetent people.
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There is no rage like rage generated by a salesperson running his (women seem to know better) greasy fingers over a brand new smartphone screen.
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So a co-worker walks into my office yesterday and hands me his new One. Man what a quality device. It's all been said here in the thread and in reviews already for all the good (speakers, build quality, screen). The screen is even better than you think. Absolutely gorgeous. One is the best Android device out there right now.
However, Sense 5 kills it all. That stupid homescreen with BlinkFeed is beyond awful. Especially since this co-worker does ZERO social networking so it's all just blue blocks saying LOG IN!. Just a waste of space.
Other little nuances of Sense 5 pissed me off too because I felt it just made things clunky. Swiping around a menu and it spreads the options apart and then they bounce back together. Totally worthless and honestly it felt like the One was lagging because of it since you have to wait for them to bounce back before you can scroll the other way again. Most people probably wouldn't notice it but going from my Nexus to Sense 5 it was very noticeable to me. I wasn't a huge fan of the launcher in general either. It just felt clunky and unintuitive to me especially coming from ADW Ex and Buzz.
I absolutely hate that the One has hardware buttons. HATE IT. The footprint for the buttons is teeny tiny too. You have to hit the button dead on to get it to work. Eventually you get used to it but overall I found it very annoying.
A Nexus device built like this but with a slightly larger screen to allow for on screen buttons instead of the hardware buttons would be absolute pure win.
However, Sense 5 kills it all. That stupid homescreen with BlinkFeed is beyond awful. Especially since this co-worker does ZERO social networking so it's all just blue blocks saying LOG IN!. Just a waste of space.
Other little nuances of Sense 5 pissed me off too because I felt it just made things clunky. Swiping around a menu and it spreads the options apart and then they bounce back together. Totally worthless and honestly it felt like the One was lagging because of it since you have to wait for them to bounce back before you can scroll the other way again. Most people probably wouldn't notice it but going from my Nexus to Sense 5 it was very noticeable to me. I wasn't a huge fan of the launcher in general either. It just felt clunky and unintuitive to me especially coming from ADW Ex and Buzz.
I absolutely hate that the One has hardware buttons. HATE IT. The footprint for the buttons is teeny tiny too. You have to hit the button dead on to get it to work. Eventually you get used to it but overall I found it very annoying.
A Nexus device built like this but with a slightly larger screen to allow for on screen buttons instead of the hardware buttons would be absolute pure win.
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Actually I couldn't. As far as I know HTC One is still S-ON across the board. Even if you unlock via HTCdev.com S-ON still makes what you can do very limiting. Although the new TWRP 2.5.0.0 with HTC dumlock is intriguing. S-ON means a good AOSP experience will be hard to do.
Because of S-ON I'd probably have to pass on the One even if Sense 5 didn't suck. My phone, not theirs. I should be able to do whatever I want without having to go buy a "developers" edition. That's horseshit.
Carbonblk46
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Hopeful that it'll live up to the hype....... Phones usually dont
You nailed it. I wanted to walk in and walk out with one. I can deal with Sense, but the buttons... the designers need to be dressed down. The home button should be in the center. If not at least make the buttons bigger.
Zorachus
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Sense sucks already, with vanilla Android being so good lately, no need for Sense and Touch wiz anymore. Software buttons too, that should be standard, not outdated hardware keys.
Here's hoping HTC makes the Nexus-Five, for the high quality HTC design.
Here's hoping HTC makes the Nexus-Five, for the high quality HTC design.
Did anyone notice that the phone isn't very bright at maximum brightness? I compared it with an LG Pro and it was much dimmer, and the LG Pro was only at 87%. The LG Pro couldn't be set to maximum brightness due to temperature issues (LOL). The One is probably getting screwed by the ATT demo software.
If anyone here gets one, don't leave without a case. The back of the display unit was already scratched up bad.
If anyone here gets one, don't leave without a case. The back of the display unit was already scratched up bad.
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Well since I like updating my radios S-OFF is non-negotiable. Big differences between radios on some devices with handing off and signal quality.
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do you have the power saving feature turned on? I think it limits the maximum brightness.
I didn't buy it. I think the ATT demo crapware is screwing up the phone somehow. I think I'm going to pick one up and return it if I don't like it. I'll check it out the power savings.
They do the same with their tablets, they prevent max brightness. If you have ever seen a real nexus 10 in effect try it in the store, its quite funny.
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Anyone has info on the different LTE bands for different carrier versions?
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Even easier now since both Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) and Koush have said the HTC dev unlock works properly now. Just like a Nexus device.
That definitely makes things quite different from when I posted about this yesterday. I fully expect HTC One to get CM10.1 treatment in a matter of days now since Koush said he would personally maintain it if the unlock was proper.
This has been confirmed on both AT&T and Sprint devices. I would expect T-Mobile to be the same. The question is Verizon. I'm betting locked down hard in whatever form the One hits Big Red in. We know it's headed there based on FCC filings the question is when and in what form...
Deal with letstalk ? Why?
I went through the motions of trying to buy a dev version through HTC. The sale routes through letstalk. The final checkbox that a user has to accept states:
A retail store will give a person 14 days to return a phone. Furthermore, on the same page as the checkout, there is a link stating a 14 day money back guarantee.
Kenny - I just did this to test it out, and it never routed me through Lets Talk for either the 32GB unlocked or 64GB developer edition.
Also, what carrier were you planning to use? The unlocked versions will have some minor connectivity issues with T-Mobile. Just a heads up.
Also, what carrier were you planning to use? The unlocked versions will have some minor connectivity issues with T-Mobile. Just a heads up.
I've tried (I'm not going to now) buy a developer version. The site doesn't redirect to letstalk.com, but the agreement is through that site.
What issues do the unlocked versions have on T-mobile? I want to buy a no-commitment phone from ATT, but a store wouldn't sell me one. I had to call the corporate office and the CSR called another store to ask to sell me one.
Good catch on the agreement.
The T-Mobile and unlocked version both support quad-band Edge (850/900/1800/1900).
T-Mobile version supports UMTS 850/1700/1900/2100, whereas the unlocked is 850/1900/2100.
For LTE, the T-Mobile version supports 700/1700, whereas the unlocked version supports 700/850/1700/1900.
Why does this matter? For LTE, they both work on AT&T and T-Mobile (and all local MVNOs that utilize them). For UMTS (HSPA/HSPA+ as well), AT&T uses primarily 1900, which both phones support. T-Mobile uses 1900 in refarmed areas, but still uses 1700/2100 in many areas, if not most. My current phone on T-Mobile is an unlocked phone that only works on 1900.
The net result is that while the T-Mobile version will see 3G/4G (HSPA+) in most T-Mobile areas, the unlocked version will default to an Edge connection in many of these areas. Since switching to T-Mobile, I can tell you that what they've actually refarmed does not match what they've claimed to have refarmed.
The T-Mobile and unlocked version both support quad-band Edge (850/900/1800/1900).
T-Mobile version supports UMTS 850/1700/1900/2100, whereas the unlocked is 850/1900/2100.
For LTE, the T-Mobile version supports 700/1700, whereas the unlocked version supports 700/850/1700/1900.
Why does this matter? For LTE, they both work on AT&T and T-Mobile (and all local MVNOs that utilize them). For UMTS (HSPA/HSPA+ as well), AT&T uses primarily 1900, which both phones support. T-Mobile uses 1900 in refarmed areas, but still uses 1700/2100 in many areas, if not most. My current phone on T-Mobile is an unlocked phone that only works on 1900.
The net result is that while the T-Mobile version will see 3G/4G (HSPA+) in most T-Mobile areas, the unlocked version will default to an Edge connection in many of these areas. Since switching to T-Mobile, I can tell you that what they've actually refarmed does not match what they've claimed to have refarmed.
I'm going to wait for Google IO. My biggest gripe with the N4 is only 16GB of storage. The phone feels warm and friendly, while the One feels a little harsh and sharp. I tried to convince myself that the home button isn't a big deal, but it's too small. The buttons on the N4 are just better.
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really hope the next Nexus is built by HTC.
AOSP + HTC build quality, design and materials is perfection
I just got back from the Sprint store and played around with the HTC One.
First impressions:
1) The camera is much better than my current EVO3D. I'm still hesitant to buy another phone with a camera that some view as subpar though. I get that it takes better low light pictures but the S4 pictures thread on XDA was stunning. Zoe mode is neat and it was fun to play around with.
2) Build quality feels like an iphone. I flexed the device and heard no creaks and the display model was perfection. I checked the top for gaps etc and there were none.
3) The speakers have to be heard to be believed. I was super impressed by both the volume and quality of the speakers.
4) Sense overall has improved and I much prefer it over my friends GS3 touchwiz interface. Blinkfeed is dumb but it can be easily removed. Very, very minimal bloatware (more of a great Sprint attribute rather than HTC admittedly but it was nice to see)
5) The screen is killer in terms of color and the viewing angles are pretty great as well, very impressed.
6) Not sure I care for the buttons as I kept clicking the HTC logo to go home but I am sure anyone would get the hang of it quickly.
I'm waiting until next weekend for the S4 to show up in Sprint stores to directly compare them but I came away from the HTC One really rather impressed.
First impressions:
1) The camera is much better than my current EVO3D. I'm still hesitant to buy another phone with a camera that some view as subpar though. I get that it takes better low light pictures but the S4 pictures thread on XDA was stunning. Zoe mode is neat and it was fun to play around with.
2) Build quality feels like an iphone. I flexed the device and heard no creaks and the display model was perfection. I checked the top for gaps etc and there were none.
3) The speakers have to be heard to be believed. I was super impressed by both the volume and quality of the speakers.
4) Sense overall has improved and I much prefer it over my friends GS3 touchwiz interface. Blinkfeed is dumb but it can be easily removed. Very, very minimal bloatware (more of a great Sprint attribute rather than HTC admittedly but it was nice to see)
5) The screen is killer in terms of color and the viewing angles are pretty great as well, very impressed.
6) Not sure I care for the buttons as I kept clicking the HTC logo to go home but I am sure anyone would get the hang of it quickly.
I'm waiting until next weekend for the S4 to show up in Sprint stores to directly compare them but I came away from the HTC One really rather impressed.
Many of those infamous gap pictures are Samsung shills fakes. It's a very low marketing tactic, but it's hilarious all at the same time. I'm entertained.
P.S. Just got a HTC One in the office (not mine), holy smokes... the speakers are actually great! I can't set up blinkfeed cause it's not my device.
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New issue involving the HTC One and one of its suppliers -
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/22/nokia-preliminary-injunction-against-htc-one-mic/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/22/nokia-preliminary-injunction-against-htc-one-mic/
That's pretty crap if st electronics did this.
Mine has a slight gap.
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A gap between the LCD and glass that's laminated together? Let's say I'm skeptical about that.
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Not a gap in between LCD and glass but reviewer at phandroid noticed uneven lifting of the screen on the left side on both the regular and dev version.
http://phandroid.com/2013/04/19/htc-one-review/
I think this is the gap issue people were referring to, isn't it? If so then its with the casing not the LCD/glass.
http://www.hardwarezone.com/tech-ne...d-issues-gap-seen-between-cover-and-main-body
Supersnake
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Here is the active forum that initiated the disclosure. You can view collections of screenshots and read the owners' discussions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197732
The gaps are between the edges of the upper and lower plastic panels where they adjoin the upper and lower edges of the aluminum frame. Gaps are also being reported where the banding of a composite material adjoins the aluminum edges.
The gaps vary in width, some are being reported as minimal and acceptable while others are being reported as not minimal and not acceptable.
Opinions in the thread are currently divided among those who argue that the issue has been noted by HTC and has been rectified in subsequent shipments versus those who are arguing that the subsequent shipments are not uniformly free of gaps.
At the present time I would recommend that you obtain your smartphone from a reseller that has a dependable replacement policy, in the event you obtain a phone whose construction does not meet your satisfaction.
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The Gizmodo review is out. And it pretty much hit the nail on the head. It reminds me of what I'll most likely be using my phone camera for. I work during the day, the time I will be using my phone camera will most likely be nights out with friends.
Sense 5 UI being way faster than TouchWiz is just bonus. And the battery is only like an hour less.
I guess I'll be picking up my free HTC One sometimes this week. My last HTC device is the HTC Hero (chinless)...
Sense 5 UI being way faster than TouchWiz is just bonus. And the battery is only like an hour less.
I guess I'll be picking up my free HTC One sometimes this week. My last HTC device is the HTC Hero (chinless)...
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Lol, you're trying too hard.