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HTC One Watch Thread

Yes I read the entire mini review, which was also explained in the very first page that it is mainly focusing on the camera and the FULL review will do it more justice.

There are no battery tests, comparisons, none what a full review will have.
 
I've used the HTC One for a bit myself.

Yes, there's no removable battery or storage, it's not going to be hack-friendly... you still want it. The ergonomics and solidity make you wonder why you used anything with a cheap-feeling plastic build, and the display is wonderful. That lower resolution camera is a concern, although video tests suggest that it's probably the perfect concert phone between the low-light sensitivity and the wide-range audio recording. I just wish I could have tried the speakers where I was, although I'll take people's word for it that they're much better than the usual.

The Galaxy S 4 is still likely to be an interesting phone, but it'll be hard to get excited when it's a much more conservative upgrade over its predecessor.
 
PocketNow has their review of the HTC One on their web site as well as on YouTube

They rated it as being " one of the best, if not the best smartphone they have ever reviewed".
Rating 9/10

They pointed out that you may have to "get past the camera though", as they regard the camera images as "being mediocre" in visual quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VuR4Pf59nJc
 
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HTC Has Created A Firmware Update For Their Flagship Smartphone's Camera

In an article appearing today on the Singapore HardwareZone web site, author Alvin Soon released the following significant information relating to the HTC One camera. For complete and detailed information - including photos - please visit the web site.


What a Difference a Firmware Update Makes

While we were halfway through reviewing the HTC One's camera, HTC called and swapped out our One with one (cough, cough) which had a firmware update for the camera. The update made a noticeable difference in the quality of the photos, as you can see for yourself below in the 100% crops. Images are sharper, with more detail. A visible softness in the upper left and bottom right corners, which we attributed to poor lens construction, has cleared up.

There's still something unusual happening with ISO 800 however. With both the older One and the One with the firmware update, image quality at ISO 800 takes a sudden dip; details are softer and the image is noisier than both ISO 400 and ISO 1600.

Unless otherwise stated, we'll be using the updated HTC One for the rest of this camera review. HTC says that the camera update will be available for the general public in April. As such, what we present you is what you can expect out of the phone, if it has been updated.

25 Mar 2013 Alvin Soon
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/review-htc-ones-camera-tested
 
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Funny, Anand seems to think that the camera is fine and produces pretty good images, wonder if there are two seperate sensors?
 
Does the One have a huge advantage over the J Butterfly?

I'm really impressed by the J Butterfly's industrial design.
 
the screen is nicer (super LCD3 vs Super LCD2) and is laminated to the touch panel to reduce refraction of light.
 
Does the One have a huge advantage over the J Butterfly?

I'm really impressed by the J Butterfly's industrial design.

Im quite a few ways its going to be better.

The biggest will most likely be the battery life and someone already mentioned the different LCD screen.
 
An AT&T 64 GB HTC1 video promotion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0N-XEgEUkac

0:53
Visibly washed out background lighting when video was taken in non-low light setting;
along with frequent automatic focusing and refocusing.
Not known if the video was taken prior to the firmware release or not.


4:29
Black color will reveal more defects or blemishes than will the silver aluminum.
Run the video at 1080p full screen. Marred edging at the 5 oclock position of one of the left side circular cutouts. To the right of it is a large white blotch, possibly a stain or a mar.
 
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HTC One is a great smartphone.

Might want to put a bit more substance in your posts considering you're so new here, it looks like you're spamming to 50 posts (which is required to participate in the FS/FT subforum here).

Pretty lame that HTC made the 64 GB One an AT&T exclusive. It's carrier exclusives and favorites like this that are hurting HTC the most, IMO. Supposedly they pulled the DNA from the Verizon website today and it's rumored that a DNA+ or some One equivalent will be replacing it :rolleyes:. If that's true, then HTC is retarded.
 
Funny, Anand seems to think that the camera is fine and produces pretty good images, wonder if there are two seperate sensors?

Anand didn't really post any sample pictures and he doesn't seem to be a camera guy so I was waiting for Brian's judgement on the camera and not Anand's. Engadget's sample pack showed lots of problems, which were largely massive amounts of over-processing. Not surprising that a firmware update would help considerably.
 
That's a bummer about buzzfeed. I don't know if I can get over that. Why would they not make it removable??? I've had my heart set on this phone since it's announcement - I've been through the EVOs, then went N4, then S3, and I will go back to HTC, but not if they force this crap on me.

"Just don't use it" is not an acceptable response. I do not want it, will not use it, and should not have to work around it. It's the same reason I hate the N4/N7 non-removable home screens, and the S3 S-voice/dbl tap home button function.
 
"Just don't use it" is not an acceptable response. I do not want it, will not use it, and should not have to work around it. It's the same reason I hate the N4/N7 non-removable home screens, and the S3 S-voice/dbl tap home button function.

Dude, you can fix the home screens any way you want with a different launcher (like Nova or Apex that improve on the AOSP launcher) and you can natively disable S-Voice (and the double tap action/delay) within the settings on all Samsung phones.

As for the Blinkfeed problem, again; use a different launcher. I could never live with the limited functionality of the stock launchers on any of today's phones. Nova looks stock, but adds a whole lot of additional functionality that no other stock launcher has. Either do that or root (as I do). Rooting isn't a big deal or hard at all and it only allows you to set up your phone exactly how you want it. If you refuse to do that because "you shouldn't have to", then GL ever having a phone where you don't have to live with some annoyances like what you're complaining about. It takes little effort to fix it and if you don't want to put forth that effort then I don't think you should complain about it when you can easily fix it if you wanted to.
 
Anand didn't really post any sample pictures and he doesn't seem to be a camera guy so I was waiting for Brian's judgement on the camera and not Anand's. Engadget's sample pack showed lots of problems, which were largely massive amounts of over-processing. Not surprising that a firmware update would help considerably.

Oh well, this isn't exactly a feature I dwell on the most about a phone anyways. The anand review was a mini one, I imagine there will be more photos to go along with it.
 
Dude, you can fix the home screens any way you want with a different launcher (like Nova or Apex that improve on the AOSP launcher) and you can natively disable S-Voice (and the double tap action/delay) within the settings on all Samsung phones.

As for the Blinkfeed problem, again; use a different launcher. I could never live with the limited functionality of the stock launchers on any of today's phones. Nova looks stock, but adds a whole lot of additional functionality that no other stock launcher has. Either do that or root (as I do). Rooting isn't a big deal or hard at all and it only allows you to set up your phone exactly how you want it. If you refuse to do that because "you shouldn't have to", then GL ever having a phone where you don't have to live with some annoyances like what you're complaining about. It takes little effort to fix it and if you don't want to put forth that effort then I don't think you should complain about it when you can easily fix it if you wanted to.
Launchers are half assed solutions to problems that shouldn't exist. Rooting is fine, but then the phone won't update correctly, or un-does all of the work you've done, and they require a fair chunk of time to learn and implement properly - not exactly easy unless you don't care about how/why and what to do going forward. Some of us don't have the time to put it to such projects, or care to. The simple fact is that I shouldn't have to root or set up a launcher just to disable a stupid app - it is flaws like this that keep android in the bin of second class products, usable only by us 'geeks'. No one would miss this app/function if it were easily removable, and I can't fathom how HTC makes money off of it (other than having an exclusive app), so why the hell not make it removable??? I understand I am fighting an uphill battle, and probably always will, but I refuse to give up - someday they'll make a proper phone and let us customize it without all the BS that we currently have to do.

"Thank god I can't remove buzzfeed!"... Said no one ever.
 
Launchers are half assed solutions to problems that shouldn't exist.

Wat. Launchers are a big reason why Android is so great. There's no way you can expect an OEM to have half as many features as a lot of third part launchers have. Nova launcher is just as fast (if not faster) and a lot more versatile than any stock launcher could dream of, yet looks about the same and is a practical as the AOSP launcher if you don't change a lot of things. There's nothing "half-assed" about it, they exist to give people the speed and functions they desire and do a great job of it. You're the first person I've ever heard say anything like that, lol.

Rooting is fine, but then the phone won't update correctly, or un-does all of the work you've done, and they require a fair chunk of time to learn and implement properly - not exactly easy unless you don't care about how/why and what to do going forward. Some of us don't have the time to put it to such projects, or care to. The simple fact is that I shouldn't have to root or set up a launcher just to disable a stupid app - it is flaws like this that keep android in the bin of second class products, usable only by us 'geeks'. No one would miss this app/function if it were easily removable, and I can't fathom how HTC makes money off of it (other than having an exclusive app), so why the hell not make it removable??? I understand I am fighting an uphill battle, and probably always will, but I refuse to give up - someday they'll make a proper phone and let us customize it without all the BS that we currently have to do.

So wrong. Rooting itself doesn't undo/wipe anything and doesn't exempt you from any updates; you can still receive OTA updates if all you do is root the stock ROM. Now if you flash a custom ROM, then that's true, in which case, (for most popular ROMs), you can expect an updated version of that ROM based on the official update in less than a week or a few days anyways. Also, most popular phones have a one-click root app where you press a button on your PC or phone and your phone is rooted. It took my friend like 5 mins to root his Razr Maxx HD and he has absolutely no tech background whatsoever. If there's not a on-click root app for your phone, all you have to do is go to your phones respective forum on XDA or Android forums, and there will be a root section with a sticky up top that walks you through the 5-10 minute process (depending on how fast you read) of rooting your phone.

It sounds like you're just making excuses and I can't comprehend why you refuse to fix it when it takes so little time and effot. In the time it takes you to complain and post on here, you could easily fix any of that with a different launcher and/or root.
 
You're lucky if you can sort through all the dead links, and find which rooting method you want to utilize in 15min, let alone download all the necessary tools, drivers, etc (some of which are throttled so heavily they take hours from some malware ridden hosting service). Then, if you're not an expert in the subject, rooting it SHOULD only take a few minutes, after you make all of your backups of course. Then you get to spend more time customizing whatever drove you to rooting in the first place, then much more time setting your phone up again. And that's only if you didn't install a custom ROM and you got it right on the 1st try, and everything still works. I am not an idiot when it comes to computers and phones, but this process will NEVER take me 10-15min. It's more on the order of hours... all for a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.

I'll have to look into launchers again, but the few I've tried on previous phones & tablets always were just a basic skin that really didn't change any of the core functions or features, just made em look different.

If rooting is the end all answer, why ever upgrade past an S3 or EVO 4G LTE? Better speakers and an IR blaster? Doesn't seem worth it to me. If i can vote with my dollars, and others do the same, maybe someday they'll figure it out and give us what we want out of the box - some might say you can't please everybody, but if it's as simple as allowing removal of buzzfeed, then why not do it? For every one person that speaks up about it like me, there's at least 10 more that don't.
 
GoLauncher, and a few others I can't recall (has been quite a while - back in my og EVO days and on a rooted Fire when they first came out)
 
sounds like you've never really done it if you're struggling this much with rooting andinstalling a custom rom.
everything is laid out easily in tutorial format on xda and I've never come across broken links.
roms/gapps are ~150MB. i can patiently wait 10min for it to download.

You're lucky if you can sort through all the dead links, and find which rooting method you want to utilize in 15min, let alone download all the necessary tools, drivers, etc (some of which are throttled so heavily they take hours from some malware ridden hosting service). Then, if you're not an expert in the subject, rooting it SHOULD only take a few minutes, after you make all of your backups of course. Then you get to spend more time customizing whatever drove you to rooting in the first place, then much more time setting your phone up again. And that's only if you didn't install a custom ROM and you got it right on the 1st try, and everything still works. I am not an idiot when it comes to computers and phones, but this process will NEVER take me 10-15min. It's more on the order of hours... all for a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.

I'll have to look into launchers again, but the few I've tried on previous phones & tablets always were just a basic skin that really didn't change any of the core functions or features, just made em look different.

If rooting is the end all answer, why ever upgrade past an S3 or EVO 4G LTE? Better speakers and an IR blaster? Doesn't seem worth it to me. If i can vote with my dollars, and others do the same, maybe someday they'll figure it out and give us what we want out of the box - some might say you can't please everybody, but if it's as simple as allowing removal of buzzfeed, then why not do it? For every one person that speaks up about it like me, there's at least 10 more that don't.
 
Excellent post 1911Shootist

I've been rooting and installing custom roms since my cappy. Since then I've rooted/installed roms on almost every Samsung phone that came after. It's relatively easy for me and doesn't take very long but for the average user it's very intimidating. I've had to fix many bricked phones from fellow employees who were rooting/installing roms. Personally I enjoy installing roms and love the benefits over running stock but it's definitely not for everyone.
 
So I've been trying out the AT&T Preorder page for the HTC One and noticed the following:

1) Only silver is available
2) You can only preorder for a new line not associated with an existing account; I tried different combinations and could never get the preorder to show up when adding a line or upgrading a device on my existing account
3) Month-to-month options are available to buy the phone outright ($549 32GB, $649 64GB)
 
HTC one a great looking smartphone and it has a lot of interesting features.

Still spamming to 50?



I'm super excited for this phone. I'm currently stuck on contract with Verizon until 2/14, though... which blows. We'll have to see what the VZW variant will be like, or I might just have to wait and see what the top dog will be then.
 
The full Anandtech review is up. He seems to like it quite a bit.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review

The macro shots of the aluminum and the sides on the first page are nifty, I haven't seen anything like those before.

So I really love Anand's analytical articles and attention to detail, the only problem I have with them is their charts, where they include such a random amount of phones for each chart its soooo hard to follow.

Why can't they just include the MAXX for every battery test, for example?

edit: WAIT WAIT WAIT, since when did this happen?!

Anand said:
With the One, HTC continues its partnership with Beats Electronics for use of the Beats Audio branding and experience thanks to its stake in the company. While the previous version of Beats amounted to basically dynamic range compression running either on the Qualcomm DSP inside Snapdragon or somewhere else on the AP Tegra 3, Beats as of late has started to translate to substantially different hardware with real improvements. The One includes a number of audio features that make it stand out from the norm, starting with an obvious industrial design feature — dual front facing speakers.
 
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my motorola atrix is really starting to show its age these days, so im looking at this phone as a replacement. i remember hearing about the trade in program where they were offering $100 for old phones, is that still available? im having trouble finding information about it. I have an old G1 laying around that would be perfect for that
 
It sounds like you're just making excuses and I can't comprehend why you refuse to fix it when it takes so little time and effot. In the time it takes you to complain and post on here, you could easily fix any of that with a different launcher and/or root.

The point is that if you pay hundreds of dollars for a device you shouldn't have to go through crap like that.
 
So I've been trying out the AT&T Preorder page for the HTC One and noticed the following:

1) Only silver is available
2) You can only preorder for a new line not associated with an existing account; I tried different combinations and could never get the preorder to show up when adding a line or upgrading a device on my existing account

I just checked my ATT account and I am eligible to upgrade to the HTC One (on an existing line that was most recently upgraded in April of last year). $199 for the 32GB and $299 for the 64GB. Glacial Silver only though is a bummer, can't really see myself pulling the trigger on that.
 
The manner in which Blinkfeed can-or-should be disabled is a matter obviously drawing embroiled debate in this thread. By contrast it should be noted that the Galaxy S4 too has introduced features that are not going to be favored by all users, i.e. AirView, AirGesture, and Eye Tracking.

Both Blinkfeed and Airview/AirGesture/EyeTracking are being touted by HTC and Samsung in their respective marketing campaigns.

It is of interest to note that unlike HTC not providing a method to disable Blinkfeed, Samsung by contrast allows the user to disable Airview/AirGesture/EyeTracking by simply accessing some provided check boxes.
 
Holy shit! Anandtech Gold Medal Award? They actually gives those out? I wonder if SG4 would get any awards!

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HTC marketing needs to milk this as much as possible.
 
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So I've been trying out the AT&T Preorder page for the HTC One and noticed the following:

3) Month-to-month options are available to buy the phone outright ($549 32GB, $649 64GB)

I'm kinda shocked that it's only $549 for a 32GB model.
 
I think HTC might wait a bit to push the advertising as i understand it now they are already worried about keeping up with demand.


WTB faster CNC machine.
 
Big problem with the phone already its the uni body. Hopefully they can get some demand out and a tmobile phone, since the price is amazing.
 
From the review on the wifi:
The HTC One immediately attached without problem and I saw a PHY rate of 433 Mbps in my office.
That's way faster tab eMMC drive in the phone (theoretical max at 52 Mbps) and any microSDHC (current theoretical high at 50 Mbps). One more reason that it just isn't needed. Build yourself a cheap storage server at home.
 
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