How to deal with bad trader?

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UPDATE THREAD: Have just received the last payment refund, with interest. Though it has taken a long time, j0j081 has paid me all the money back, and has been great with communication in the last two weeks. Thanks for all the help guys!

I realize this is in the wrong forum, so mods please assist!

I have been given the run around on a $230 sale by member ***** several months ago. I am wondering who to contact on these forums to alert the community. I will be filing a police report, though I want online communities to be aware as well.

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Rough idea of case-
Beginning of October- Agreed to purchase Phenom 955 and 4870 from member j0j081for the price of $230, shipped and paypal included.
I paid for the items via Paypal purchase. I was given responses such as "tomorow or Tuesday", etc/ etc for several days.
23rd of October, j0j081said the package must have been lost, and he would transfer funds to his paypal to pay me back.
Several messages later, still being put off for money. 11/6/2009 he tells me to file a claim with paypal.
I file the claim, am told that I should get money back, but they cannot access any of his funds.
I am told that I will be sent a check for the refund.
11/12- He says that if it will take more than a day or two, he will overnight the money.
11/24- He informs me that he has no money, but is working on it.
11/24- Offers to pay back in payments, I tell him that I would rather get the whole amount at once.
12/10- Says he cannot do all at once, wants to do split payments.
12/15- Agrees to do 2 payments, $115 each by 12/20 and 12/27

No payments last night, and he did not respond to my pm today informing him that I was filing a police report.


EDIT: Just got a message from him saying he did not have the money, with an apology. He said he would have at least half by this Saturday, and would try to send the full amount. I asked for his phone number, I will edit once he sends it. I told him CC paypal was ok to refund with.
 
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you should contact a mod and post in the tip tricks and trolls for advice
 
Ok, will do. Thanks guys.

It has been 2 months now. I filed paypal claim, which they agreed that I was due my money back, but could not get any money from him for some reason (no money in account?)
 
I moved this to the right forum. Did this transaction happen here?
 
Thanks!

Yes it did. I have saved the pms in XML (then copied to doc). Should explain the situation and timeline here or edit top post?
 
Timeline added, I can send the doc files of pms if Mods can't get into my box
 
How did you make the payment? If you make the payment from your credit or debit card, you can file a charge back. But do it before it is too late.
 
Timeline added, I can send the doc files of pms if Mods can't get into my box

I've sent a notice to him that will go through to the email he has on file with us. From a forum perspective we'll give him some time to respond before any action will be taken here. We don't have access to your PM box, but I don't see any need to forward those at this point.

Has he broken off contact with you at this point? If so, what ways have you tried reaching him? If you didn't get a phone number for him, you may be able to track one down via reverse directories; and you can try searching for things like facebook and twitter accounts with the other information you do have. I know a phone call can have a dramatic effect on resolving some issues; as it brings the situation out of the internet world and into the real one.
 
Made payment with bank funds

He has stopped responding, though throughout our transaction communication was always spotty. I really only have his pm and email to contact, I will try to search on the net with his name. Ill set up facebook and twitter accounts and see if a search on those provides any info.

Thanks alot Oldie! Really appreciate the help!
 
Well at least in the future, you'll know you need to get more info. For larger trades with people you don't really know, a verified working phone number is a must. Nothing is a guarantee, but you need to get good info to cover yourself.
 
paypal has a phone number on account.... i know people who purchase with ebay have called me when shipping is longer than expected
 
Glad to hear that communication has been restored. I'm going to close this thread for now to avoid off-topic comments. Please PM myself, or any of the other FS mods when you have an update, and we'll unlock the thread.
 
Reopened for updates; as always please try to avoid comments that aren't in some way helpful. They just get in the way of helping the OP resolve the issue.
 
Still nothing from him, I will keep everybody posted. Thanks!
 
Got his phone number, yet he wants me to give him another week. Any input?
 
i wouldnt do it. hes giving you the run around the longer you wait the worse it is. i would start doing whatever it takes from here on out. Get a paypal claim going before its to late.

Think about it hes been blowing you off since october what makes you think hes going to come good now?
 
Tell him you already gave him three months. No more BSing around...
 
I filed a paypal claim, they ruled me the winner, but could not access any funds. I have been in contact with him today, he said he would send money tonight. I will update again at midnight and see what happens...
 
I filed a paypal claim, they ruled me the winner, but could not access any funds. I have been in contact with him today, he said he would send money tonight. I will update again at midnight and see what happens...

Did you use a credit card for this? Now that you have a declaration that you were deemed correct in the claim report verdict, you can file for a chargeback because no funds were available.
 
Just got a payment of $110 from him, will keep the thread updated on the rest.
 
Yeah...its really a hassle, but at least it seems like some funds are coming back to me. He said the other part should be back to me before Sunday.
 
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