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Good Modular PSUs

Yeah, I saw someone had a Rev. 2 for sale on ebay. What's the difference/improvement over the Rev. 1's? :confused:
 
To sum up who is Hiper, here is their website and you can decide:
Hiper Power Supply

I just bought myself a 400watt Ultra X-Connect, I will not worry because all other power supplies I have used either being generic or Antec has not taken my computer out for about two years straight.

I do not overclock my computers, I just fold with them.
 
Spectre said:
Yeah that was great stuff on Futurama....damn Simpsons staying and not Futurama.

But back on topic. Anyone get a UL number?
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I like the "Simpsons", too. I'm so glad FOX revived "The Family Guy". :D

Now if only FOX picked up "Dilbert" that UPN ran several years ago. :eek:

Sorry for going off topic. :eek:
 
I have the antec neopower 480w and its a good psu, the ocz modstream makes a good doorstop.
 
Gh()st said:
Yeah, I saw someone had a Rev. 2 for sale on ebay. What's the difference/improvement over the Rev. 1's? :confused:
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Dual 12V rails, 120MM fan, better efficiency, Flex-Force cables instead of the round cables.

But I call BS on the one for sale on eBay. They don't even have prototypes available for people outside of the company. I've been asking for one and they say they won't have anything until October for me. So how the heck does some guy on eBay have one? ;)
 
jonnyGURU said:
Dual 12V rails, 120MM fan, better efficiency, Flex-Force cables instead of the round cables.

But I call BS on the one for sale on eBay. They don't even have prototypes available for people outside of the company. I've been asking for one and they say they won't have anything until October for me. So how the heck does some guy on eBay have one? ;)
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I wish I would have saved the link to the auction. The seller posted it as a "slightly used Rev 2". Based upon your statement, I guess he was just trying to screw someone. :mad:

But I still don't know what is different between the revs?? :confused: What's better/been fixed/upgraded on a Rev 2?

Oh, and just to add ( I should probably post this in the Hot Deals thread ), looks like X-Connect is offering a $30 rebate good on all PSU's bought until 8/31/2005. The rebate can even be dumped directly into your paypal account. ( skipping the 4-8 week waiting period )

$30 X-Connect Rebate
 
Gh()st said:
But I still don't know what is different between the revs?? :confused: What's better/been fixed/upgraded on a Rev 2?
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jonnyGURU said:
Dual 12V rails, 120MM fan, better efficiency, Flex-Force cables instead of the round cables.
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I'll break that down.... Two 12V rails instead of one big one provides better efficiency, better stability and helps isolate the side effects of voltage fluctuations caused by devices like drives from critical devices like the CPU.

The 120MM fan can spin slower and still move as much air. The end result is a quieter fan.

I'm only assuming the efficiency is better. The X-Finity improved it's 72%@50% load to about 76%@50% load. Then again, the X-Finity is built by Wintech. The X-Connect may end up coming out of Youngyear and who knows if they'll decide to use the same components.

The Flex-Force cables are the flat cables you see on the new X-Finity. I seem to remember seeing a photo of one (an X-Connect) with Flex-Force cables, but please don't quote me on this. I try not to state rumor as fact. You would think I was from Missouri... "The Show Me State." ;)
 
Bucken said:
Anyone heard anything about this one?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/cata...d=3455&zenid=8957d78f5dd911a9e335d95fba230b3a
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nope, but at that price point it better be something special
off hand that looks like a recipe for disaster, of course that would depend on the range those external pots have

given that the 3.3V rail powers the memory and that if Im not mistaken most mobos employ a VRM for the memory and voltage control is BIOS controlled not power supply, and that the "PCI-E" pot is simply controlling a single +12V rail and that unlike the mobo there is no buffer for attached drives, its like handing dynomite to babies

Id have serious reservations until its reviewed by someone competent

they arent a well know supplier
http://www.sin-tek.com/sintek-products.htm
with only 2 models, both basically the same thing, just packed full of "features" the unwary might think of as more advanced, but the supply appears to not even meet the latest spec.

my guess would be they are another "Ultra Products" contracting a value engineered design to some manufacturer and attempting to cash in on the unwary.

That is in fact an older ATX12V v1.3 supply, having a single +12V rail and the -3.3V rail as well
for $180 some odd dollars there are far more safe bets
 
Although I wouldn't say it's a recipe for disaster, I would say it is NOT worth $189.

I'm willing to bet half of allowance that it's a Youngyear power supply with a bigger 5V rail to compensate for the additional "wattage."

I'd say that power supply is worth all of $150 tops. TOPS. That's taking in consideration the worthless aluminum housing and the sort-of-pointless Compu-Nurse. In practical usability, I'd say it's about a $100 power supply.... TOPS.
 
well if those pots have a tight enough range maybe its not a completely death on a stick
but if they are anything like the externals on most supplies that range is going to be greater than the spec allows so that the competant can adjust a supply "into" spec, but the way they are inheirently marketing it, (without even the flawed rudimentary LEDs you see on a powerstream\topower) there are going to be a host of poor souls seriously degrading and blowing components because they subscribe to the more is better idea, and then blaming Western Digital, Maxtor or whoever because thier HDD is dead
 
This is slightly off topic, so I apologize in advance. I recently bought a PSU (Seasonic S12-600), but I'm still confused by one thing. I know ATX ver. 2 is supposed to be a pretty significant improvement to the standard vs. the original version. But what's the difference between ver 2, 2.01, ... I think I've even seen a PSU claim to be ver. 2.03 compliant. Thanks.
 
Ice Czar said:
well if those pots have a tight enough range maybe its not a completely death on a stick
but if they are anything like the externals on most supplies that range is going to be greater than the spec allows so that the competant can adjust a supply "into" spec, but the way they are inheirently marketing it, (without even the flawed rudimentary LEDs you see on a powerstream\topower) there are going to be a host of poor souls seriously degrading and blowing components because they subscribe to the more is better idea, and then blaming Western Digital, Maxtor or whoever because thier HDD is dead
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Good point. I would like to get my hands on one just to see how much compensation those knobs allow for. Absolutely, if you can crank a rail way over spec, that would be bad.

I'm sure they're thinking customers are going to dial their voltages WITHIN spec while the PC is under average load, but you're right... someone is going to try using the knobs to adjust voltages high for overclocking and start blowing other crap up.
 
beowulf7 said:
This is slightly off topic, so I apologize in advance. I recently bought a PSU (Seasonic S12-600), but I'm still confused by one thing. I know ATX ver. 2 is supposed to be a pretty significant improvement to the standard vs. the original version. But what's the difference between ver 2, 2.01, ... I think I've even seen a PSU claim to be ver. 2.03 compliant. Thanks.
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You're talking about two different standards: ATX and ATX12V.

ATX12V: 2.0 added the 24-pin. 2.01 makes the 24-pin required and added SATA as part of the standard. 2.2 has higher load levels (Intel requires load limits on the 12V rail, which they raised due to SLI requirements.)

The 2.03 you saw was probably ATX, not ATX12V. ATX 2.03 overlaps with ATX12V1.3.
 
to clarify a bit ATX is the broader mobo standard the power supply spec is a subset of that
and for quite awhile now has been described by various versions of ATX12V

way back when, "ATX" was both a power supply and mobo designation, but saying a power supply is compliant to ATX 2.03 is both technically correct and disingenious on the part of the manufacturer, far better to describe which power supply subset of ATX12V it conforms to
 
Thanks for the explanation, jonny and Ice. :) It's now making a little more sense. My other question was what is ATX12V w/ respect to the other standards, but I now know. :cool:

My PSU has native 24-pin and supports SLI, so I'm sure it's got the latest ATX ver. 2 specs (not that I need SLI right now).
 
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