GLOBALFOUNDRIES Fab 8 Construction Tour @ [H]

Trackr said:
Not to agree with Ultima, but..

Man, is it nice to see a major corporation hiring Americans..

Even if it's mostly highly-skilled Americans that can't be found in many parts of the world.

Still, kudos!
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you also have the lower people that maintain all the electrical facilities, water, gas, janitors.. still tons of lower skilled jobs.. so its win win for everyone.
 
Kyle this was a cool look at something we dont often get to see. While I realise they dont want to share much of how they do things it might me interesting to see if you can get in once they go live and show us another video with the site up and running.
 
Kyle that is like 1 and and half from me.LOL> I had no friggin idea... Wait. where are u guys located are u in NY state? I live in Upstate in Bighamton.Shit if you guys are close lets grab some lunch...lol
 
Trackr said:
I just got to point out one thing - it says that it will create 1,400 jobs.

Is that considered to be a lot? $6,000,000,000 and only 1,400 jobs?

It'd be fine if jobs weren't what they were going for - but then.. why mention it?
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I guess if 1,800 working construction jobs and then 1,400 full time (and very high end jobs I might add) is not a big deal to you, I don't really know what to say. The building itself is putting about ~$1B into the local economy alone with another $4B spent on tools. The operation when fully ramped should impact another 5,000 jobs globally.

Not really sure what you are turning your nose up to here....

pxc said:
Neat, but not the most advanced. ;) The most advanced would be Intel's Fab 14 (14nm) under construction right now. Let me do the math... yes 14nm is more advanced than 28nm (and 20/22nm). ;) It was mentioned in Intel's CC this afternoon.
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OK. But to my knowledge GLOBALFOUNDRIES will be the first facility up and running with EUVL (extreme-ultraviolet lithography) fabrication processes, so I think this is where it is hanging its hat on "most advanced," and surely there is some PR at work here, but I will ask for clarification.

Sparky said:
Where are the pics for us non high speed guys?
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Sorry, high speed guys only. I shot a couple hours of video while there, and no stills.
 
trudeak said:
Kyle this was a cool look at something we dont often get to see. While I realise they dont want to share much of how they do things it might me interesting to see if you can get in once they go live and show us another video with the site up and running.
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Hopefully, but no promises. Would be nice to see it completed and working for sure. I will try to make this happen.

Pitbull#2 said:
Kyle that is like 1 and and half from me.LOL> I had no friggin idea... Wait. where are u guys located are u in NY state? I live in Upstate in Bighamton.Shit if you guys are close lets grab some lunch...lol
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Well, I am located in Dallas. I took a plane...or two...or four. :)
 
AHAHAHAHAH... I got Buddys that live in Tx. lol They run spill.com. Korey is one of my best Buds Ill be down your way in June.lol And shit bro.Next time u come this way U can crash at my house.lol.Better than a Hotel in Saratoga.LOL.AHahahhah.....;) Ohh and just so u dont think im a Friut cake.lol.this is me.

I dont fit the basics of a Gamer/ Comp. builder.lol.

http://img689.imageshack.us/i/l26c10a09e6684ce1b6c1e3.jpg/
 
Your points are noted, please go make your own thread instead of trying to make this an Intel Fab thread. Thanks. - Kyle
 
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Very interesting, had no idea about this stuff. I always imagined something in the lines of cheez whiz. You know, just squirting stuff out on a conveyor belt and there ya have it.
 
Pitbull#2 said:
AHAHAHAHAH... I got Buddys that live in Tx. lol They run spill.com. Korey is one of my best Buds Ill be down your way in June.lol And shit bro.Next time u come this way U can crash at my house.lol.Better than a Hotel in Saratoga.LOL.AHahahhah.....;) Ohh and just so u dont think im a Friut cake.lol.this is me.

I dont fit the basics of a Gamer/ Comp. builder.lol.

http://img689.imageshack.us/i/l26c10a09e6684ce1b6c1e3.jpg/
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Hampton Inn in Saratoga Springs was the nicest damn HI I have ever seen. :D
 
You know, we have been so accustom to seeing super structures that it usually isn't anything special. But honestly... take a step back and just look at all of it... all that goes into construction of a building like that. It's mind-boggling.

It's kind of like a word... you know how to say it but if you write it down on paper and start separating it letter by letter... you begin to realize how alien it really is.
 
Aahhahahaha Realy shit they must have built that Special for that.LOL. well they do have a Horse track there to. and a road race. Other than that there Prob were more people working at that place then live in saratoga.lol. :) ahhahahawe bro if u come this way again u will have to let me know. ;) I might not have a 50 cal. for u to shoot but Im sure i can find something to entertain u.LOL. :D
 
I can appreciate you wanting a new office Kyle, and moving out of your parents basement , but holy cow, overkill?! :p
 
thanks. i as well would like to see an after video.

heck even video of any running fab would be cool.

and thanks for having a youtube version available, the vimeo player just doesnt play very well on this older computer

and oh.. was that you not wearing your selt belt ding ding in the beginning? haha
 
Can we get another tour once it is up and running? Maybe follow a 300mm wafer from start to finish. Though I guess all the really cool stuff is a secret so there wouldn't be much that hasn't already been said before.
 
piXel said:
So what exactly is the clean room? :confused:
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From the Wiki that gives a good overview.

A cleanroom is an environment, typically used in manufacturing or scientific research, that has a low level of environmental pollutants such as dust, airborne microbes, aerosol particles and chemical vapors. More accurately, a cleanroom has a controlled level of contamination that is specified by the number of particles per cubic meter at a specified particle size. To give perspective, the ambient air outside in a typical urban environment contains 35,000,000 particles per cubic meter in the size range 0.5 μm and larger in diameter, corresponding to an ISO 9 cleanroom, while an ISO 1 cleanroom allows no particles in that size range and only 12 particles per cubic meter of 0.3 μm and smaller (see table below).

Cleanrooms can be very large. Entire manufacturing facilities can be contained within a cleanroom with factory floors covering thousands of square meters. They are used extensively in semiconductor manufacturing, biotechnology, the life sciences and other fields that are very sensitive to environmental contamination.

The air entering a cleanroom from outside is filtered to exclude dust, and the air inside is constantly recirculated through high efficiency particulate air (HEPA) and/or ultra low particulate air (ULPA) filters to remove internally generated contaminants.

Staff enter and leave through airlocks (sometimes including an air shower stage), and wear protective clothing such as hats, face masks, gloves, boots and coveralls.
Equipment inside the cleanroom is designed to generate minimal air contamination. Even specialised mops and buckets exist. Cleanroom furniture is also designed to produce a minimum of particles and to be easy to clean.

Common materials such as paper, pencils, and fabrics made from natural fibers are often excluded; however, alternatives are available. Cleanrooms are not sterile (i.e., free of uncontrolled microbes)[1] and more attention is given to airborne particles. Particle levels are usually tested using a particle counter.

Some cleanrooms are kept at a positive pressure so that if there are any leaks, air leaks out of the chamber instead of unfiltered air coming in.

Some cleanroom HVAC systems control the humidity to low levels, such that extra equipment ("ionizers") are necessary to prevent electrostatic discharge (ESD) problems.

Low-level cleanrooms may only require special shoes, ones with completely smooth soles that do not track in dust or dirt. However, shoe bottoms must not create slipping hazards (safety always takes precedence). Entering a cleanroom usually requires wearing a cleanroom suit.

In other cleanrooms, in which the standards of air contamination are less rigorous, the entrance to the cleanroom may not have an air shower. There is an anteroom (known as a "gray room"), in which the special suits must be put on, but then a person can walk in directly to the room (as seen in the photograph on the right).

Some manufacturing facilities do not use fully classified cleanrooms, but use some cleanroom practices together to maintain their cleanliness requirements.[2][3]
 
I have a 3d laser scan of one of the clean rooms on my screen right now, sorry I can't share it... besides, it's just an empty room right now. As far as the economy in the area goes, Malta has been ramping up for this plant for many years. The roads are being improved, housing, etc. It is definitely a big boost. New York gave them some huge incentives to locate the plant in Malta.
 
Great video. Was surprised to see that it was the biggest construction project underway in the US right now, would have thought D1X would be bigger, but then again, I see that site in person, as opposed to on a computer screen ;)

Now that Fab20 is pretty much closed, you might be able to get a tour of what's left from Intel, Kyle, the 200mm wafer stuff is fairly obsolete at this point from what I understand, but would be cool to show the people on this site who have never worked in a clean room what it's like.

Though, that said, I have to disagree that fab tech jobs are high end ;) Or at least, that they pay like they are, heh. Still, most interesting job I ever worked.
 
pxc seemed a little put off by the title "Most Sophisticated Fab in the World," so I asked GLOBALFOUNDRIES for bullet points to address this claim. Here is what it had to say.

• First green field fab in the world designed from the ground up for 28nm and below technologies (Intel’s are all retrofit)
• First production (not pre-production) EUV tool in the world ordered and to be installed and brought online in Fab 8
• Most sophisticated factory automation platform in the world when deployed – APM 2.0 – capable of industry-leading cycle times, small lot manufacturing and a host of additional features (I’ve asked for a few bullets on this that we can disclose publicly as a lot of it is top secret)
• Will be LEED certified at the outset and is expected to also be the most energy efficient wafer fab in the world
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Very very cool to see all of these major manufacturers going LEED certified and minimizing their wastes. It's great for PR and makes me more excited about what they're doing.
 
I remember when it was announced that Malta was going to be the place where this was gonna be built. I use to live in Clifton Park which is pretty close , Malta is a pretty small place but its not bad. Its not to far from Albany though so thats a plus. Malta does get hammered with snow though.

Cool insight into the factory though Kyle thanks.
 
Uncle said:
Your example reminds me of a car, separate the metal from the plastic and you might have what ,few hundreds dollars worth of material. Create something we can use and it will cost, what 20 up to 50 thousand.Your talking close to a billion just for the buildings.
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Yeah, I was actually thinking of car manufacturing when I mentioned that. I used to do archaeology review for state government and all of those big manufacturing facilities had to go through various stages of field survey/excavation etc. I'd imagine this Fab is no different, probably had federal/state funding and certainly permits that would have triggered a massive amount of historic resources and environmental survey. It's kind of wild to think about the work that goes into a project like this before they can even break ground.
 
I'm stoked to see them building such a large fab in the US. that as a freaking huge building and some massive equipment inside, looks like enough power to feed a medium size town.

On a side note, while that is a very big building, I've wandered around Boeings Everett WA plant which is much much bigger.
 
Thanks Kyle great show. I think the future is very bright for AMD, Fusion will be a real powerhouse in the main stream market in a couple years.
 
Nothing construction guys hate worse than a camera. Sad truth is most tasks are impossible to complete without violating some bullshit rule or other.

Like how you managed to zoom in on the one female ass on the whole job...lol.
 
krakerman said:
Yeah, I was actually thinking of car manufacturing when I mentioned that. I used to do archaeology review for state government and all of those big manufacturing facilities had to go through various stages of field survey/excavation etc. I'd imagine this Fab is no different, probably had federal/state funding and certainly permits that would have triggered a massive amount of historic resources and environmental survey. It's kind of wild to think about the work that goes into a project like this before they can even break ground.
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In the next to the last scene when I pan across out the front of the admin building you can see old rocket gantry structures from WWII that GE owned.

From the 1940s through the mid-1960s, General Electric Co. (GE) operated a Rocket Test Station as a contractor to the U.S. Government, which owned the site. GE tested ordnance and rocket engines, which included experimentation with exotic rocket fuels. The site was operated under some level of security, and many records have been destroyed, making it difficult to assemble an accurate record of past activities.
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Serious question for anyone that knows: What would it take to get a job there once complete? I'm going back to school soon for another degree and have been considering several tracks. Are the manufacturing jobs going to require some sort of electrical engineering degree with emphasis on wafer fab?
 
I'm lucky enough to be working for one of the companies helping with this...LOL not like I have anything to do with the actual project though, but I do live like 20 minutes from it!
 
Kyle, I enjoyed the tour very much. Thanks for visiting and documenting for us. Please return whenever GF and the [H] budget will permit.
 
Linden said:
Kyle, I enjoyed the tour very much. Thanks for visiting and documenting for us. Please return whenever GF and the [H] budget will permit.
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Maybe he can utilize his special contacts to put together a special HardOCP tour of that fab? I would be so interested in seeing it on a tour once it is finished. Even if they still won't let you see the cleanroom, it isn't everyday that a fab of this magnitude is built right here in the US of A. I would make time and make the drive to see this.
 
Spooony said:
They can open one over here they will have more strikes than anything else. They strike over any crap here lol its a wonder some factories have stayed like Vw they lost millions once due to a couple of days of the workers laying down their tools to toy toy. Shouldve sent in the tanks
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Nah, tanks are overkill, if you'll pardon the pun...;) All they need do is to have each worker sign an agreement when he's hired that says, "You strike-ee, and you no work-ee, you get fire-eed and lose your job-ee." I think that would do it.
 
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