Blackburn Lancashire
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I have read some posts stating that some people were experiencing higher FPS and generally better performance in games with Windows 7 compared to Vista or even XP. Can anyone confirm this?
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it allows for time to get drivers and the like ready for Windows 7, though that doesn't look like its going to be nearly the issue as it was with XP to Vista as Vista drivers pretty much work on 7 though there are some that don't.
So, if Win7 gives a better gaming experience because it uses less resources then why did I have to get into a shouting match with people here when I claimed not running AV in the background and unnecessary background crap while gaming also gives a better gaming experience? Seems to me that perhaps I know more than some people here give me credit for.
So, if Win7 gives a better gaming experience because it uses less resources then why did I have to get into a shouting match with people here when I claimed not running AV in the background and unnecessary background crap while gaming also gives a better gaming experience? Seems to me that perhaps I know more than some people here give me credit for.
I wonder how much of that is in your own mind though. why would those games run faster not to mention smoother in 7 then they do in Vista?crysis is faster,farcry2 is smoother,no stuttering.it works great so far for a beta no problems what so ever
So, if Win7 gives a better gaming experience because it uses less resources then why did I have to get into a shouting match with people here when I claimed not running AV in the background and unnecessary background crap while gaming also gives a better gaming experience? Seems to me that perhaps I know more than some people here give me credit for.
Oh for the love of....here we go again.
It's not because Win 7 uses "less resources". Sounds more like the fact that it's a fresh OS install to me.
If you have to argue your stupid AV thing again keep in mind that Windows 7 is far more streamlined. More mature and optimized code. New kernel optimizations. And you're basing your conclusion off a single person saying "crysis is faster, FarCry 2 is smoother, no stuttering" without any proof to back up those claims.
Does anybody honestly believe they'll see any huge increase in gaming going from Vista x64 to Win 7 x64? I sure don't. I expect it to be pretty close to the same because the driver model is the same meaning the drivers will be relatively the same and even now Vista and XP are relatively close to the same speed on completely different driver models.
Waiting is always the hard part. Let me rephrase a bit. I wouldn't wait on the computer just because of an OS choice. Vista is a perfect choice for a new computer, and can be had for a decent price these days. Besides, if you are building a new computer, you can always get an OEM license for Vista on the cheap, and use that until Windows 7 is out. I'm just saying I wouldn't wait for the hardware simply because of the OS options. If I wanted or needed a new computer now, I'd buy one now.Actually I have to disagree with DeaconFrost about waiting for Windows 7 final before getting a new PC. I would wait unless you really want/need the machine now.
Nope, I don't think that's the case. If you stopped to read what people said, let go of your "I-know-it-all" attitude and listened to some facts, you'd be surprised how much you'd learn. As mentioned, Windows 7 isn't going to be faster because of less resources. It is due to optimized code, improved upon what was part of Vista. As for your AV comments, it's been put to bed by everyone but you, so there's really no point in discussing them any further.Seems to me that perhaps I know more than some people here give me credit for.
Where in the game did you see this? It's been running just fine for me.It doesnt work well in Prince of Persia. It ends up going into a weird slow motion and then fast fowards. Also has minor graphical glitches like making the girls hair a glowwy orangish color like you would expect if light was shining through it.
Not all games work so you are taking a risk. Since there arent any real drivers for 7 yet then I bet the first set will fix most or all of the glitches.
Klob said:Hard to learn anything from system admin types who are not hardcore gamers. I know gaming machine setups and you know secure setups for noobs. Well, I know both but gaming systems are my forte'.
And thanks for taking the time to respond. I was going to modify my earlier post to say pretty much the exact same thing but I was too busy being a sysadmin.......Thanks for the laugh.
And thanks for taking the time to respond. I was going to modify my earlier post to say pretty much the exact same thing but I was too busy being a sysadmin...
Good laugh for sure.
Oh for the love of....here we go again.
It's not because Win 7 uses "less resources". Sounds more like the fact that it's a fresh OS install to me.
If you have to argue your stupid AV thing again keep in mind that Windows 7 is far more streamlined. More mature and optimized code. New kernel optimizations. And you're basing your conclusion off a single person saying "crysis is faster, FarCry 2 is smoother, no stuttering" without any proof to back up those claims.
Does anybody honestly believe they'll see any huge increase in gaming going from Vista x64 to Win 7 x64? I sure don't. I expect it to be pretty close to the same because the driver model is the same meaning the drivers will be relatively the same and even now Vista and XP are relatively close to the same speed on completely different driver models.
Wow...just wow.
And thanks for taking the time to respond. I was going to modify my earlier post to say pretty much the exact same thing but I was too busy being a sysadmin...
Good laugh for sure.
Let's just assume this is correct, and ignore the fact many console games suffer from stuttering as well.You know why a console can run games smoothly with less resources than a PC? If you know the answer to that question then you know I am right and you are wrong.
Stop talking in internet cliches, it gets old real quick.
You know why a console can run games smoothly with less resources than a PC? If you know the answer to that question then you know I am right and you are wrong.
Well, if you've got something logical to write, then by all means, write it. As it stands, your posts thus far have not indicated any real knowledge or grasp of the topic being discussed in this thread.You know, I would love to take the gloves off and give some of you some much needed verbal beatings but this is a moderated forum so my hands are tied, unfortunately.
Klob said:Hard to learn anything from system admin types who are not hardcore gamers. I know gaming machine setups and you know secure setups for noobs. Well, I know both but gaming systems are my forte'.
By that logic, my Smartphone should be the best gaming device around, right? Right? It is the hardware optimizations that make gameplay smooth on a console. Even then, as mentioned, console game can and do have their issues with performance as well.Having low OS overhead is also of benefit.
PCs runs the code necessary to get the job done, no more in a brute force manner than a console would. What did you mean by brute force? It's been proven time and time again that most games do not peg the CPU and it's the GPU that typically gets hammered. Remember, the consoles are using tweaked variants of desktop graphic chips, and that's where the bulk of the graphics processing get done. On top of the fact that this go round with the consoles, they all use different CPU/System architectures, and require a different approach from a software development angle. You can't really compare them, especially against the general purpose PC architecture.More efficient hardware architecture is only part of the reason. Having low OS overhead is also of benefit. Anyone who thinks all those background apps like AV has no negative impact is out of touch with reality. The PC has to use brute force to get the same performance that a console can do on much less computing power.
By that logic, my Smartphone should be the best gaming device around, right? Right? It is the hardware optimizations that make gameplay smooth on a console. Even then, as mentioned, console game can and do have their issues with performance as well.
Someone's definitely out of touch with reality however, and it isn't any one of us. It is pathetic to see you still clinging to this notion that AV software hurts gaming performance. You've been given proof upon proof that this isn't true, yet you still argue it. You're wrong, plain and simple, so let it go. You are acting like a spoiled little kid who didn't ge tthere way, so they went off in the corner, kicking and screaming. Be an adult, accept that you were wrong, and move on.
Seems to be in line with what I've been observing. No massive increase in performance gaming-wise, just quite a bit more steady. I've already switched to Win 7 full time. I've yet to encounter any show stopping bugs and resume from sleep actually works properly! Having a working sleep feature sealed the deal for me, along with rapid network setup after log in and resume.I've only done a little bit of testing, but it hasn't hurt any games yet. (Going from Vista x64 to 7 x64) One thing I noticed is that some zones in WoW now have a more stable frame rate. Running through Dalaran at prime time, the frame rate used to jump around a ton, and at points it would even stutter. Now, while my average frame rate is probably a little bit lower, it stays there. Much better this way. If I make it to this weekend without any major problems I might switch to it full time.
Seems to be in line with what I've been observing. No massive increase in performance gaming-wise, just quite a bit more steady. I've already switched to Win 7 full time. I've yet to encounter any show stopping bugs and resume from sleep actually works properly! Having a working sleep feature sealed the deal for me, along with rapid network setup after log in and resume.
SOB!!! I just noticed what you did there in your sig. Funny stuff.+1 to that.
Are there any actual gaming benchmarks available? (Windows 7 64-bit only. 32-bit is dead)