G80 specs revealed

In an age of rising utility costs, it sure would have been nice of NVIDIA to consider some kind of efficiency on their part. Only the sales of the 8800 series will show how many people are willing to pay the price. Are you one of them? :rolleyes:
 
StalkerZER0 said:
Why, my soon to be purchased 30inch LCD of course. I'm still deciding on which manufacturer to buy it from. It may very well be the dell 3007wfp but there competitors I'm waiting (patiently) for that might have something better.
So you are all saying that the one GTX g80 would not be able to handle crysis at 2560x1600 with not even SOME of the eye candy at acceptable frame rates using dx10?
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I think it will. If the rumored specs are true, I really think G80 will handle Crysis at that res, with the in-game settings nearly maxed out (if not entirely). It probably won't be 100% smooth, but playable enough.
Let's see if my guess turns out to be true :)
 
dR.Jester said:
In an age of rising utility costs, it sure would have been nice of NVIDIA to consider some kind of efficiency on their part. Only the sales of the 8800 series will show how many people are willing to pay the price. Are you one of them? :rolleyes:
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please tell us you're joking......a couple of bucks on the electric bill and you're pointing the finger at a PC component manufacturer expecting them to cut back useage?

hows about watching TV less, i bet your TV uses far far more electricity than your PC ever will, or maybe you have electric heat/water, so maybe a few cold showers will offset the huge useage by the video card in your computer


:rolleyes:
 
Everyone's acting like its 450w psu just for the cards, when it is not. I can't imagine that most of us here aren't already running 450 or better psus anyway. 550w here... Its not 450 FOR JUST THE CARD, its 450w for a typical system if you want to use one of these cards. Sheesh...
 
dR.Jester said:
In an age of rising utility costs, it sure would have been nice of NVIDIA to consider some kind of efficiency on their part.
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nVidia's past cards have been very efficient. Essentially, they use similar means of reducing power consumption as their mobile line, so they manage to squeeze a good deal of power out of not so much power. Performance per watt of the 6x and 7x series is excellent.

Wait until R600 to start any finger wagging. I suspect that the X2000 line will be very fast, but in typical ATi fashion, extremely power hungry. This depends on which memory they plan to go with and how much, though.
 
phide said:
Wait until R600 to start any finger wagging. I suspect that the X2000 line will be very fast, but in typical ATi fashion, extremely power hungry. This depends on which memory they plan to go with and how much, though.
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That'll be exactly the route I take, wait for both to be out and see what happens from there.
 
dR.Jester said:
In an age of rising utility costs, it sure would have been nice of NVIDIA to consider some kind of efficiency on their part. Only the sales of the 8800 series will show how many people are willing to pay the price. Are you one of them? :rolleyes:
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yep, I am thx
 
Requirement for BIG wattage PSU shouldn't be a bragging right..... sigh.

p.s. I don't want any water/liquid in and around my computer, period.
p.p.s. unless someone sits right next to my computer 24/7 for free like Cray super computer support.
 
dR.Jester said:
In an age of rising utility costs, it sure would have been nice of NVIDIA to consider some kind of efficiency on their part. Only the sales of the 8800 series will show how many people are willing to pay the price. Are you one of them? :rolleyes:
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if you mean like $430 for a kilowat psu, hell no.
but for like a minor upgrade like 750w, maybe.
i havent seen anyone that uses one of those 300w psu's that are dedicated for the gfx card only and fit in one of the drivebays, but i would consider one of those because they only cost like $80, and leave your main psu to power the rest of your system with less stress.

edit: and for the oversized psu's, it wouldnt fit in my case anyway, so for one of those i would have to do some modding, or buy a new case.
 
[teh]manwich said:
if you mean like $430 for a kilowat psu, hell no.
but for like a minor upgrade like 750w, maybe.
i havent seen anyone that uses one of those 300w psu's that are dedicated for the gfx card only and fit in one of the drivebays, but i would consider one of those because they only cost like $80, and leave your main psu to power the rest of your system with less stress.
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I would kill to have one of those dedicated PSUs, just so I wouldn't be paranoid and end up buying said kilowatt PSU for future proofing purposes.

Even though it might end up coming out to $400+ anyway to buy one.

That's my current issue as far as upgrades go, and most prevalent - I want to upgrade, but what in the hell kind of power supply am I going to really NEED?
 
1000 said:
What are the chances that a single 8800gtx will outpace a 7950gx2 at really high resolutions like 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 ?

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Considering an x19050 XTX is dam close and above sometimes.... VERY good.
 
dR.Jester said:
In an age of rising utility costs, it sure would have been nice of NVIDIA to consider some kind of efficiency on their part. Only the sales of the 8800 series will show how many people are willing to pay the price. Are you one of them? :rolleyes:
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Because most of the kids running out and getting this dont pay the power bills, or are in a place where the power is included in the bill likely.

It wont be till mommy and daddy notice little's jimmy's computer is adding $50 a month to hydro.
 
MrGuvernment said:
Considering an x19050 XTX is dam close and above sometimes.... VERY good.
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that a new card? i want one of thoes!!! :D

i cant wait to give my power supply a run for its money :D
 
MrGuvernment said:
Because most of the kids running out and getting this dont pay the power bills, or are in a place where the power is included in the bill likely.

It wont be till mommy and daddy notice little's jimmy's computer is adding $50 a month to hydro.
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rofl! Dammit Little Johnny, turn your computer off, I gotta dry my hair, toast some bread, dry my clothes and heat up a tv dinner!
 
zg75 said:
Everyone's acting like its 450w psu just for the cards, when it is not. I can't imagine that most of us here aren't already running 450 or better psus anyway. 550w here... Its not 450 FOR JUST THE CARD, its 450w for a typical system if you want to use one of these cards. Sheesh...
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QFT.

And I liked how somebody said that it would be adding $50 to the power bill. A mini-fridge on constant power pulls more power per-day than the 8k series will at peak power, and a mini-fridge costs like $25 a month. So please, cut the bullshit. Thanks.
 
Anyone who can afford a $650 video card (or two) has no business complaining about an additional $5 on their power bill each month.

Seriously. If you are the type to own this card, you're already the type to have a 450+ watt power supply. And if you are the type to pay as much as this card will cost, I'd guess keeping your power bill down isn't among your chief concerns.

Which leads me to believe that people just like to crap on things.
 
The power consumption isn't what annoys me(My electricity is free, thanks to the U.S. Air Force), what annoys me is the prospect of having to get a bigger PSU than the 700W that I have. I bought this PSU as overkill, now I find out it might not even run the 8800 series in SLI.
 
omfg!!...
where do you figure that a 700watt cant handle SLI 8800s? if one 450watt was used for ONE card + THE WHOLE COMPUTER + headroom for small upgrades im sure a 700 watt can handle anouther little video card to the mess. Trust me, if its a nice PSU, your fine.
 
can't understand why everyone's freaking out about the psu requirements. It's not that bad.
 
I think one of the biggest reasons why people are "freaking out" is because a single card will require (2) 6-PIN PCI-E power connectors. If they don't have an SLI PSU, they have to purchase one now.

Second problem, if you want to run SLI, not only will it cost an assload and require 1.21GIGAWATTS of power, those that do intend to go SLi with the 8800GTX will have to purchase an SLI 2.0 PSU.

Yeah the card may suck more juice, really not all that great but if you just purchased an SLI certified PSU, you just got f'ed by NVIDIA because the 8800GTX now requires two power connectors.
 
case in point here being the overkill of running sli at this point. whoever can afford and are willing to run these cards in sli, i'd guess, would be enthusiasts mind you, not your average consumer. so that point is pretty much moot. hard to believe one could shell out over a grand for vid cards and still weep about having to replace a psu.
 
dR.Jester said:
Second problem, if you want to run SLI, not only will it cost an assload and require 1.21GIGAWATTS of power, those that do intend to go SLi with the 8800GTX will have to purchase an SLI 2.0 PSU.
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way to overstate the numbers...
 
Warrior said:
omfg!!...
where do you figure that a 700watt cant handle SLI 8800s? if one 450watt was used for ONE card + THE WHOLE COMPUTER + headroom for small upgrades im sure a 700 watt can handle anouther little video card to the mess. Trust me, if its a nice PSU, your fine.
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I think hes talking about the "recommended 800W PSU to run the GTS in SLi"
 
Well I bought an 850w for just such an eventuality....turns out it was a good idea to splurge instead of being conservative on power and going with the 510SLI...if this PCP&C can't handle SLI 8900s (I'm waiting for the refresh) I'm going to cry.
 
dR.Jester said:
In an age of rising utility costs, it sure would have been nice of NVIDIA to consider some kind of efficiency on their part. Only the sales of the 8800 series will show how many people are willing to pay the price. Are you one of them? :rolleyes:
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Yeah, but right now it's more important for performance; than efficiency.. a the moment anyway... Of course, it would be nice if theyd release a graphics card that not only blew the competition away and used half the electricity than previous generation cards...
(of course that would mean to most of us to pump up the voltage and over clock like crazy) lol
 
zg75 said:
Everyone's acting like its 450w psu just for the cards, when it is not. I can't imagine that most of us here aren't already running 450 or better psus anyway. 550w here... Its not 450 FOR JUST THE CARD, its 450w for a typical system if you want to use one of these cards. Sheesh...
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and that is just nVidia playing it safe against all those cheapo OEM power supplies with terrible voltage regulation and miserable current output on the 12v rails.

a high quality 380/400W PSU will be able to run what nVidia says will require 450W.
 
MKm56 said:
Hard to believe one could shell out over a grand for vid cards and still weep about having to replace a psu.
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QFT.

Hopefully the midrange cards will only have one connector, so SLIing will be more friendly :D
 
Hurin said:
Anyone who can afford a $650 video card (or two) has no business complaining about an additional $5 on their power bill each month.

Seriously. If you are the type to own this card, you're already the type to have a 450+ watt power supply. And if you are the type to pay as much as this card will cost, I'd guess keeping your power bill down isn't among your chief concerns.

Which leads me to believe that people just like to crap on things.
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A video card purchase is -arguable- a fixed cost. After paying it once, it's done. Power consumption is a variable cost, i.e. it does not disappear in the long run. For this reason complaining about extra power consumption is certainly a good point.
 
dR.Jester said:
I think one of the biggest reasons why people are "freaking out" is because a single card will require (2) 6-PIN PCI-E power connectors. If they don't have an SLI PSU, they have to purchase one now.
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on that note, when you run SLI you would have to have 4 connectors?... or could you be safe with getting splitters or somthing? Cause that was ok with the 6800Us... alot of people were saying you had to have each connector on the 6800U be connected to a difforent rail. And i found that to be foolish if you had a good PSU....

SLI... pff, its nice ppl, but god damn. Remmeber when we didnt have it?... we turned out OK! The fastest single card on the market could run all the games you wanted fine.

i was thinking about waiting for a refresh too, and letting these cards, if they have no problems, go down in price and then ill pick one up.
 
drizzt81 said:
A video card purchase is -arguable- a fixed cost. After paying it once, it's done. Power consumption is a variable cost, i.e. it does not disappear in the long run. For this reason complaining about extra power consumption is certainly a good point.
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LOL this argument is like saying you buy a lamborgini and then complain that it only gets 7 miles to the gallon. The fact is anyone running a decent PSU with most modern computers will be able to run a single card of either variety. Now if you want the Lambo computer guess what you pay for it and you suck up the util cost. If you can't afford the electric bill maybe you should reconsider that option. The whole arguement is nonsensical.

Sunin
 
dR.Jester said:
I think one of the biggest reasons why people are "freaking out" is because a single card will require (2) 6-PIN PCI-E power connectors. If they don't have an SLI PSU, they have to purchase one now.

Second problem, if you want to run SLI, not only will it cost an assload and require 1.21GIGAWATTS of power, those that do intend to go SLi with the 8800GTX will have to purchase an SLI 2.0 PSU.

Yeah the card may suck more juice, really not all that great but if you just purchased an SLI certified PSU, you just got f'ed by NVIDIA because the 8800GTX now requires two power connectors.
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we dont know for sure that the g80 gtx will require 2 pci-e connectors, those pics were of proto-types, and the 2 connectors might not be required in the final(production version)g80 gtx
 
I thought there was a specification posted somewhere that said the 8800GTX would require both?
 
although there isn't any solid specs on the power needed a single gtx won't go over 180 watts thats for sure, it will need 2 power connectors though or a single 8 pin connector
 
drizzt81 said:
A video card purchase is -arguable- a fixed cost. After paying it once, it's done. Power consumption is a variable cost, i.e. it does not disappear in the long run. For this reason complaining about extra power consumption is certainly a good point.
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The problem is that all the people crapping on the new stuff are doing so with fanciful numbers. They seem to think that one card will draw 450 watts (conveniently failing to consider that the rest of the system will be needing power too) at all times (as though the video card will be rendering 3D 24/7).

As someone already pointed out, a mini-fridge (which draws much more power daily than an 8800gtx ever would at peak usage) adds about $25 to a monthly power bill. So, assuming we're only going to be using the video card for gaming a few hours per day, I'd say we're looking at somewhere under $5/month.

So, who is really going to get upset by that? Did someone really expect NVIDIA to increase performance and add all these features and use less power (and still see a release within the next six months?)? Would they have been happier with only an increase of $2.50/month in their power bill instead of $5?

Yes, it's all absurd. People just like to crap on things. Especially things that they can't afford and/or can't justify buying. Or, of course they might be lame "partisans" in the "war" between ATi and NVIDIA.

H
 
Warrior said:
on that note, when you run SLI you would have to have 4 connectors?... or could you be safe with getting splitters or somthing? Cause that was ok with the 6800Us... alot of people were saying you had to have each connector on the 6800U be connected to a difforent rail. And i found that to be foolish if you had a good PSU....
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Check out this post for more info. I asked a pretty similar question in the SLI thread.

Also, you could always power one 8800GTX with your standard PSU, and then get one of these for only $50 to power the other. Then you've got four PCI-E connectors without any adapters. ;) . I assume that the Thermaltake dedicated video card PSU can handle a single 8800GTX since it can power Quad-SLI all on its own. Could be wrong though.
 
You'd think it'd only need one connector because we're on PCI-E now which supply's some of the video cards power to it.
 
If people want to shell out for 2xflagship G80 cards then they've got the cash to shell out for a PSU they will require.

Make no mistake, SLI is for the high end user only, if you aren't prepared to spend money on the upgrade then just stay away. I'm not sure what people expect here, more video processing power but less power requirement? :rolleyes:
 
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