For the 2500K/2600K users out there, what price for a 7700K would make you upgrade?

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  1. bezant

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    Had a power outage and my generator did not come on line (fried circuit board). When power came back and I booted my PC, it BSOD on me. Had to lower my clock to 4.7. I guess what I am trying to say is that you are right. The CPU will not last forever.
     
  2. defaultluser

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    I was going to wait for next year for DDR4 prices to come down and for Cannonlake to launch (to see how AMD responded with prices on their 6-cores). But then my 2500k shit a brick in May. Upgraded to a 4970k that just happened to still be in-stock at he local Microcenter for $270, rather than toss my 16GB of DDR3 ram.

    I'll probably upgrade now in 4-5 years. Now that I have hyperthreading, the attraction of 6 cores is not what it was. I already get twice the performance of my 2500k when encoding videos.
     
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    Around $250 for me. On a i7 2600 right now. I heard moving to a 7700k would be a noticeable performance improvement.

    I found a couple 7700k's for $249 off buildapcsales (the subreddit), however, they were open box, and only happen 1-3 times a month. So a steady $250 from a good retailer would be my price point.

    However, I have no problem mowing my grandma's lawn a couple times to raise my budget, if need be
     
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    I got a used 6700k + Z170 for 300 bucks, because I needed the HT for some multitasking. My old P67 and 2500k brought me 180. So overall 120 more for 4 more threads and better IPC. Not the best deal, just getting a sandy bridge i7 would have been more rational, but I got some DDR4 Ram for cheap so it didn't bother me that much. Coming from 2500k there is a nice bump in fps in games, but I would never do the jump from a 2600k for that price.




    I also considered Ryzen 1600, but Arma is one of my fav games, so :rolleyes:.
     
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    In my house we (had??) trickle down upgrades.. pretty frequently I'd get new stuff and my wife would get my old computer.. my 6~yr old i5-2500K is still rocking away in her computer.. as my i7-4770k rig is now a bit over 4yrs~ old now..

    maybe another year and I'll upgrade mine and give the wife the i7...unless something breaks I guess.. Just haven't seen any reason to spend the money so far.. I also don't wanna have to buy DDR4 at current prices on an upgrade.. I'm just going to chill for the next yr or so I guess.
     
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    I finally upgraded to a 6850k and x99 board I got for $310. Plus DDR4 for 130 bucks for a total of $440. Probably not worth it, but whatever I felt like I got a good deal on the 6850k.

    Getting $180 mentioned above for a 2500k + board sounds VERY generous. Isn't a Ryzen i3 ($110) just as good as a 2500k?

    I'd be surprised if I could get 100 bucks for mine -- at which point I'd probably rather just keep it around as a spare computer.
     
  8. bjornb17

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    Not exactly the same thing but I just sold my 3770K and 1155 motherboard for about $400 total. I sold them separately on ebay. Quite a bit of money can be recouperated with this aging parts since they are still so capable.
     
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  9. ZacharyS

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    I recently upgraded and overall the experience has been satisfactory. My 2500k was adequate, but since I made the jump to a gsync high hz monitor I was feeling the pain. My fps in many games was definitely being held back by the 2500k and overall most games simply run smoother with less stuttering. I can't really explain it other than that, everything is just infinitely smoother now. Also in a lot of my games I was able to go from medium/high settings to simply maxing them out and I have at minimum the same fps, usually higher average, but my minimum fps floor is much higher now after the jump.

    All in all I was on the fence about it being worth it, and when Aug 21 rolled around and the coffee lake stuff didn't actually release I said screw it and made the upgrade.

    Is it life changing? Absolutely not, but I think it was a great upgrade overall and I haven't even started overclocking yet. I'm gonna keep my 2500k around as a Plex server (plus other random shit I run like discord bots) so it will still see some life for plenty of years to come!
     
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    When I first got my 2600k in mid 2011, I told myself I won't be upgrading until I can buy something with double the single and multi-thread performance at a fair price. After 6 years of waiting that goal post has moved to just 50% more ST and 100% MT, but I'm a cheap and stubborn bastard, and with the 2600k@4.8 on an AIO I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger for anything less.

    I've upgraded every component around this CPU (except for the PSU) since I first got it, but I don't foresee myself upgrading until we get Volta and have 30" 144hz monitors or Gen 2 VR devices. I think then the gaming benchmarks will show a big enough improvement in going from a 2600k to a i9-9700k (or whatever) to make the cost feel worthwhile.
     
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    8 months ago I bought a business destop off-lease with win7 pro, 4G ram, 500G disk and i5-3570 and it was $94 shipped.

    2500k will go for more unlocked, but I can't imagine it going for as much as the entire machine I bought (maybe I'm wrong...) when ryzen 3/5 are out there cheap & the new i3-8xxx will be native quad core and probably less than $150.
     
  12. Speedeu4ia

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    Well $70 was the price I lucked into for a working 7700k and now will finally upgrade the 3570k. Bought a "non working 7700k's from iBuypower on ebay and it works, so far tested at 4.7 overnight
     
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    You bought a non working cpu, but somehow you got one that works? How often does that happen?
     
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    I think someone is stuck with a non-working motherboard. XD
     
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    Right, but I bet the listing said "non working 7700k". With his luck, he should be playing the lottery.
     
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    Nice. I just bought a Dell off lease i5-2500 with 8gb ram but had to pay up - $200. My 5 year old loves it.
     
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    The problem with upgrading from Sandy is more than just "is this good value?"

    Its the fact that I have to:
    (i) Buy new CPU
    (ii) Buy new motherboard
    (iii) Replace my ram
    (iv) Buy a new cooler to fit the new socket
    (v) Reinstall my OS
    (vi) Go through the process over overclocking my CPU and getting it stable (fun part)
    (vii) Reinstall all programs and features how I liked them
    (viii) Long term stability testing for CPU overclock + enduring random crashes (Tweak voltage/temps)

    All that and $600-750 will get you 10% performance in games.

    I wouldnt upgrade if the CPU was free right now.
     
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    The major problem is DDR4 ram prices are out of control. I feel like the new processors are actually fairly good value overall just that upgrading to newer platforms isn't worth it when you factor in ram...
     
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    32G of ddr4 desktop ram is what, $250 now?

    Or I can go buy some old sandy/ivy based LGA2011 Workstation for $150-$250 and pick up 16G ddr3 ecc reg chips for $40-$50 on ebay.
     
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    Yeah, upgrading my 2500k to a 4790k cut the price of the upgrade in half, because I already have 16GB DDR3 and a z97 motherboard.

    I don't see myself upgrading until the industry catches up with demand, or this Haswell system dies on me.

    And yes, that means DDR4 ram drops down below $60 again for 16GB, like it was a year and a half ago.

    At least the price of flash is starting to come back down to sane levels.
     
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    Yes from a post on Reddit talking about how iBuypower did this before with 6700k's and half of them worked. So I bought 2 for better odds, 1 didn't work so I resold for 80 and the other works like a champ

    Guess ibuypower doesn't test them, not sure why... They still have a few 7700s and others on eBay for sale but not worth the risk

    btw iBuypower is a computer builder, sold at bestbuy among others
     
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  22. bezant

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    Funny!
     
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    Thats because it isnt really free, if you look at the list of reasons :D
     
  24. bezant

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    I get it man! It is funny and true.
     
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    Uh, it has DDR3 ram and that mobo takes DDR4
     
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    damn, was hoping for an easy solution.
     
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    I also thought it must be the memory, but it is actually listed in the compatibility list. The guy hasH5TQ2G43BFRH9, the compatibility list has H5TQ2G83BFRH9 (the difference is 512M x 4 vs 256M x 8, otherwise they are the same).
     
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    Yeah only thing I could come up with is bios not updated enough to support kaby. But I'd kind of assume that it would work if he got it all in 1 trade. Hell of a gamble to pay $200+ for that.
     
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    I know what your saying but if you think outside the box or buy used or get deals its less than what you state


    So far I swindled:
    16GB corsair 3000mhz cl15 at Staples for $82 using ink recycling rewards(2 months of 10 cartridges=$40 which cost me .25 each/$5 total /bought coupon$6 for $20 off/ $25 off 100 visa checkout promo/ retailmenot$15 cashback
    Asus rog Strix Z270 ITX $94 at Staples using all the same as above(2nd staples/retailmenot account)
    2x 7700k's (non working) off ebay for $132 (bought seperate instead of combined shippinhg since I figured after I bought the 1st one my odds would be better with 2 instead of 1) paid with Ebay GC's bought on target red card for 5% off
    Rosewill neutron case from Newegg for $10 after rebate a few months ago(ofcourse free shipping)

    And if you want to get technical, I actually sold the Asus z270 strix new for $175 on eBay netting a $30profit(was hedging on 8the gen compatibility)

    Then later bought a gigabyte z270 gaming 5 itx for $103 used on eBay(again using 5% off giftcards from Target) to test these 7700k's.

    Also bought a thermalright true spirit 140 power off Amazon new for $45. (Don't have an extra cooler and didn't want to pull apart the old rig just for testing, upgraded at the same time)Which ended up working out as pretty sure this cooler hits the nvme heatsink on that Asus board.

    everything else the same plus sold the 3570k with 2x4gb ram and asrock z77extreme 4 on ebay for $200 net

    So I have about $115 into the whole platform upgrade with new better cooler, I gain HT and smaller itx platform and double the ram for same price as just buying a 3770k used
     
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    Buying a rampage IV tonight and maybe a second 2600k. Not playing the five yearly 'let's fix dram prices because bs reasons' game.
     
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    So lets talk about the 2500K portion of this.

    Just last night, I installed my 1080Ti and played my favorite novigrad benchmark for Witcher 3. With the sig rig and my GTX 970 (1489mhz) I hit 19 min, 41 average and 66 max in this particularly grueling benchmark at 1440P, everything ultra.

    After installing the 1080Ti (1889mhz), I hit 36 min, 72 average, and 101 max. I gained maybe 60% performance from a graphics card that in synthetic benchmarks is 120% faster. That said, the reason for this was extreme hitching in high CPU intense areas of Novigrad.

    My 3770K is off to be delidded and when it comes back, well see, clock for clock (reckon I should hit 4.6ghz on a delid), how much hyperthreading really helps in this particular game. Overall though, I am disappointed by how much my 4.6ghz 2500K limits my 1080Ti.
     
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    I think insane DDR4 prices are holding up the entire upgrade lifecycle. Lower prices by 50% and I think a lot of people will upgrade .. Then prices on old sandy/ivy/x99 systems will drop like a rock on ebay making everyone happy
     
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    i used my old i5-2500K today for awhile as it is now AKA "my wife's computer" =p it is quite good still, it does somewhat depend on what you wanna do w/ ur rig to some extent but it is still very solid for general computer usage and games..

    my i7-4770 has at least another year to go it seems before it becomes "my wife's new computer"... i think.. however if the miners would all bugger off and let video cards prices become ~ reasonable I would enjoy upgrading my video card and giving the wife my current HD7950
     
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    I thought they were pretty reasonable already...still not down to MSRP but I picked up a 4GB RX 580 for $200 after MIR yesterday. 1060/6G have been MSRP + $10 for some months now...not exactly outrageous. 1070's have fallen under $400 on sale again.
     
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    fair enough that is a bit better.. I may be stubborn but paying msrp+ still rubs me the wrong way. my wife only plays facebook games so the ooold HD6850 she has is ~ok ish for the moment and I have a HD7950... I mostly 95% of the time play CS:GO @1080 so the HD7950 hangs in there still ... I'm going to wait at this point ...
     
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    I just did at $280. I already have the mobo, ram, and SSD in an existing mITX build. So I'm probably an outlier case.
     
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    Yeah I don't think CS:Go requires much.

    On the other hand Shadow of Mordor @ 1440p all details up really does like 1070 SLI :)
     
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