Footage Shows a Click Farm in Action

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  1. AlphaAtlas

    AlphaAtlas [H]ard|Gawd Staff Member

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    Anyone who spends time online has probably heard of, and run into, websites and social media posts that are clearly being promoted by bots. But just what do those bots look like on the other end? While I expected to see rackmount servers spoofing various devices en masse, according to a post from Tom-James Lee, CEO at Vagabond Digital, some of those "click farms" are literally giant banks of smartphones.

    Check out the video here.

    This is scary... A click farm in full flow. Most probably these programmatically controlled devices are liking, engaging and clicking on social media posts, pages and ads trying to trick algorithms. You hear about it happening but it's scary to see it in action as it can be seriously detrimental to digital and social marketing for businesses and brands everywhere. Keen to get everyone's thoughts?
     
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  2. NickJames

    NickJames [H]ardness Supreme

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    Its crazy how cheap this kind of labor is in other countries. You can literally create an army of followers to jump start anything on the internet these days.
     
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    Yikes....This type of thing is crazy, and these are influencers that effects people's decision making.....one reason why I don't trust a whole lot anymore.
     
  5. Nukester

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    This is why I no longer have any social media accounts, including twitter, linked in. Any of that shit.
     
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    I wonder if they use VPN on top of physical hardware, otherwise it wouldn't be too hard to see that all this business is coming from same IP/location. Also just kind of shows how stupid the whole like idea is. Reminds me of back in the old says where advertisers paid per click or impression so popular were scripts that will reload pages and such.
     
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  7. NickJames

    NickJames [H]ardness Supreme

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    Good old days, I got so much free shit from Microsoft when Bing had that feature. Ended up with 3 OG Zune's with all the accessories and a couple of Xbox 360 controllers.
     
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  8. Armenius

    Armenius I Drive Myself to the [H]ospital

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    This is why you see brand new Instagram accounts with 1 post have like 10,000 followers. People pay these kinds of places to artificially generate an online following.
     
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    Yup. When I first realized a few years ago how easy stuff like this was, and how bots can largely generate all sorts of stuff that isn't real on social media platforms - I deleted everything. It's almost all fake, and the scary part is that it's crafted to sway people different directions.
     
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    The real influencers.

    Number of things / people i follow = 0
    Number of interesting things i have bookmarked = a few
    Things i really try my best to do = not use like buttons on pages.
     
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  11. BloodyIron

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    Each one could have their own SIM with data, each would have their own unique IP.

    Not enough precision of location could be made available to websites to see they are in the same room, they could only reasonably see they may be in the same City, or sometimes even less than that. And that might not even be accurate info due to how ARIN records and routing works. (Some IP ranges are registered in locations they aren't actually used).

     
  12. Megaslug

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    Oh it can - Dave Jones at EEVBlog on YouTube has done a couple of videos on the subject of pair for likes and dislikes, using examples where it has happened to him, and the YouTube analytics shows large masses of the dislikes coming from certain areas such as Vietnam, and compared to his typical worldwide audience distribution, far in excess of the normal distribution of his audience. SO very obvious that it was paid-for fake dislikes - IF you bother to look. But most people don't know how, or just don't care, to actually see if the data they are being fed is valid or not, they just see thousands of dislikes and just keep right on surfing and missing the content, which is this case was debunking an absolutely worthless product hawked on Indiegogo. That was a year ago, maybe they've now figured out how to use VPNs to hide the location.
     
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    LOL keep up the good work... I said it long ago, we are creating a giant brain through the internet of things.

    Imagine each device as being a single neuron in a brain. A human brain has about 100 billion neurons in it.

    There are approximately 26 billion devices connected to the internet today, estimates say their will be about 75 billion by 2025...

    The internet is one giant brain, and it will rule us all...

    That's my tinfoil hat idea of the day :LOL:


    On serious note, paid for advertising in general needs to die a horrible fiery death. It only favors those who throw money at it, and causes actual good products to suffer.

    Nobody in their right minds would pay to see a shit show, but if I spend a million dollars in advertising and convince 1 million people to spend 10$ to see this "Spectacular Show of Shits!!!" then I have literally profited off of a golden turd. We see examples of this every day, its called the "Entertainment Industry."
     
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    This is really awesome in a terrifying, mildly depressing sort-of way.
     
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    This is where recycled cell phones go! To a slave farm???!?

    *omg crying*
     
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    Once they've outlived their usefulness they're turned into soylent silicone.
     
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    Where do you put the quarters?
     
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  19. coynatha

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    That's what I was going to say. People that do this stuff just don't deserve to share our air.
     
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    so... they're using software to automate 'clicks'? I'm confused why you need actual phones at that point...
     
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    This seems really power hungry. Wouldn't a server with VMs use less power? I don't think the screen needs to be on. It also seems more expensive to buy all of these phones instead of a dedicated server.
     
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    I wonder how my posts can get 650 views in two weeks it's all Bots.
     
  23. oROEchimaru

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    wait till the chinese quantum computers start doing this in mass to persuade public opinion and control social issues/unrest . They already have 60k + internet police.
     
  24. Fuzzy_3D

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    Is this better or worse than bitcoin farming? :ROFLMAO:
     
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  25. Uvaman2

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    Soon the internet will be bots talking about bots.... It might already be happening.
     
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  26. STEM

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    You can always trust MKBHD and LTT. /s
     
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    I was for the nuke option too, till I noticed the cute chick blowing me a kiss.
     
  28. Jim Robbins

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    (singing) When I think about you, I click-farm myself...

    But seriously, I think I'd just rather pay for ad-less services instead of using all the free junk... It's extremely rare I buy anything from an ad anyway.
     
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    Interesting, I love watching EEVBlog and will have to look this one up. Regarding likes and such, I honestly never cared or took them for anything. I hardly even take reviews into consideration unless they are really written out with details and I still research elsewhere. Someone mentioned using cell phone data but that will still put you into same geolocation. I guess having some kind of VPN is probably the way to go but possibly many sites just don't give a damn.
     
  30. Zarathustra[H]

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    I couldn't give a rats ass about businesses and brands marketing efforts. Heck, I'd run something like this just to throw those bastards off. Fuck those data collecting swine!
     
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    Use it to mass 1-star a game over draconian DRM
     
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    it's not called the worldwide WEB for nothing :cautious:
     
  33. Skull_Angel

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    Simple solution, quit monitoring social media's basic values (likes and number of comments) for popularity trends and stick to advertising, monitoring trending news, and thousands of reviews for criticisms (hire people talented in product marketing and development research rather than rely on bots that can be more easily fooled).
     
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    this is why shitty youtube videos make it on the Trending list.
     
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    This kind of activity should be considered fraud and prosecuted as such.
     
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    This breaks my weeping heart.
     
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    What's horrible is I can absolutely see the world's first true quantum computer (sans my tinfoil theory that the gov't already has several up and running that are classified) being utilized for realistically liking and disliking social media garbage.

    edit: I would have to imagine the U.S., if they haven't already, will be the first to completing a quantum computer for such a purpose. I wonder how mucked up the Chinese social point system will get merc'ed by it?
     
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  38. DanHirschberg

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    Holy shitsnacks. So this is how public sentiment changes.
     
  39. N4CR

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    Social media is very 'organic' these days. Bot armies are everywhere too but they are easily defeated if you pay attention.
    They tried this big time in NZ recently, massive psyops going on there, can't have an armed populace if you want to be really nasty to them ;)
     
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    Got any of those, *cough* Zune HD 64 laying around? A man could always use a functioning backup.

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