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Folding in the cloud

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Hi everyone,

There's a webcast series I'm doing with a couple colleagues that shows users how to deploy a F@H client to the cloud (specifically, a Microsoft datacenter). I have a lot of interest in both distributed computing and cloud computing, so it seemed a good opportunity to combine both.

The reason I'm mentioning it here is because attendees receive Windows Azure (cloud) accounts, and can run up to 20 virtual machines at no cost for a few weeks. Even if just 10 people attend only 1 session, that's 200 servers. If 100 people attend all 9 sessions (which is my goal), that's 18,000 servers! (Yikes, I didn't realize that until I just wrote it, but hopefully it won't disturb anything!)

Someone in another forum asked me about PPD and I'm not sure what a single instance does (I've got about 200 currently running). Obviously a top desktop i7 w/ GPU can dominate a single VM server, but, potentially dozens (or hundreds) of servers is a great deal.

Also, it folds for the Windows Azure team but it's possible to change the team number. (Not like you all need the points ;) I have a few screencasts on the site that talk about it.

It's primarily for developers and IT professionals -- happy to host others if they're sufficiently motivated! More details here: http://distributed.cloudapp.net ... thx, hope to see some folks there.
 
Seems interesting, do you know the ppd for your 200 VM's is? It's cool that they actually help you install FAH. Depending on what kind of server power you get that could be $50 bucks of electricity for the two weeks could be way higher.
 
sounds cool.. but i dont think my ADD will allow me to do this.. hell i cant even sit for 30 minutes playing a game before i have to find something else to do.. 120 minutes is just a tad long for me.. hopefully some one here takes up the opportunity to try this..
 
I'm gonna try to check this out. Thanks for the heads up
 
Zink said:
Seems interesting, do you know the ppd for your 200 VM's is? It's cool that they actually help you install FAH. Depending on what kind of server power you get that could be $50 bucks of electricity for the two weeks could be way higher.
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The problem is, I'm not sure if people are deploying, taking down, experimenting, etc. But, we did the first webcast last Wed, and I suspect by this Wed we'll have around 225,000 points, maybe around 1,900 WU. But, some of those deployments have been taken down -- I just took down 20 to do a different test. So kind of hard to measure.

By default it doesn't send a passkey, so that may hurt points. Also no GPU.

The basic server is a single core 1.6ghz machine -- obviously not very powerful. But you could go up to an 8-way 1.6ghz server. If I could figure out how to do the SMP client w/o an installer and user account, that would be the way to do it.
 
Interesting. I've signed up for the seminar tomorrow; hopefully I'll get something useful out of it.
 
Zero82z said:
Interesting. I've signed up for the seminar tomorrow; hopefully I'll get something useful out of it.
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I hope so too, since I'm the one doing most of it. If you're a developer/IT guy, and into folding, hopefully it's a win all around.

Definitely check out the prereqs:
http://distributed.cloudapp.net/getstarted

In short, Visual Studio (trial, or free version of the web developer express), the Azure tools, and project files. (And the folding client, console version...)
 
This looks really cool, but Azure is quite expensive for hobby use.....which is what F@H is for most of us.

Pricing is geared toward people who use this in a business setting.
 
nitrobass24 said:
This looks really cool, but Azure is quite expensive for hobby use.....which is what F@H is for most of us.

Pricing is geared toward people who use this in a business setting.
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Oh no doubt! I'm the one giving the webcast and I wouldn't recommend people use it for this purpose personally and pay for it, it's too expensive -- as is any cloud environment, really. 20 servers per hour is $2.40 (each one is 12 cents/hour), or $57.60 per day. If all you wanted to do is fold, you could buy low-end machines cheaper.

But, you get accounts for free in the webcast. 20 servers for 2 weeks would otherwise cost $806.40. Again, even if 10 people do it ... it makes an impact. :)
 
Hehe... At first I thought the title was "Folding in the closet".

I wasn't sure if this was going to be about heat issues with putting folding machines in a closet, or hiding the fact you were a folder from your loved ones and co-workers for fear they would judge you and reject you.
 
Missed it. I was looking into this as I have some free time in Azure.
 
arentol said:
Hehe... At first I thought the title was "Folding in the closet".

I wasn't sure if this was going to be about heat issues with putting folding machines in a closet, or hiding the fact you were a folder from your loved ones and co-workers for fear they would judge you and reject you.
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Believe it or not, but there has been a thread here a long time ago about someone setting up folding rigs in their closet. I think they even rigged up HVAC to it. It wasn't even a walk in! :D
 
Dang just noticed this post today and now the event is full. Is there anyway to get in a willcall slot if someone does not show?
 
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