First Ryzen build (5600x) frustrations(?)

Ok, just to show that I am not really an asshole, here is a direct quote from a post I made on another forum from someone asking about 5600X OC. This was my reply less than 5 mins ago.

For me, I set my PPT/TDC/EDC to 200/140/180, boost override to +150, and a negative all core curve of -28.

All cores will hit 4800MHz, and with a heavy all core workload you should see 4600-4800MHz, depending on what's running.

You could try for the full +200, you might be able to nail it down, but I wasn't able to do it in a stable fashion.

It will not use the full power settings that I listed, so no need to worry about fires.

I spent some time to find out what the maximum power the socket would allow the CPU to have, and for how long, then I set my curve to match my boost. No need to touch VCORE at all.

Alternatively, you could try to find the max static OC that you can achieve, but chances are in SC stuff you can get the CPU to boost about 100MHz or so over static numbers.

Edit:

I also wrote down those max socket numbers, but lost the paper.. so I just gave it a little dose of 5900X power settings.

Edit again:

Best I could do with static numbers was 155w PPT, not bad for a 65w part.
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freeagentt said:
Ok, just to show that I am not really an asshole, here is a direct quote from a post I made on another forum from someone asking about 5600X OC. This was my reply less than 5 mins ago.
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You're not an asshole, I don't know why you would be, I just don't understand whether the processor gets more voltage with a negative offset of -25 or with a negative offset of -28, for example, I don't understand again.
But I'll try to copy your numbers and run Cinebench R23, I'm not interested in records, I'm just interested in getting as much out of the processor as possible for 24/7.
And another main influence is the motherboard and the quality, as well as the settings in the BIOS that are offered, they are not all the same.
That's advanced knowledge on how to overclock Ryzen.
 
Strange bird said:
You're not an asshole
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Thanks, I am kind of loveable once you get to know me.
Strange bird said:
I just don't understand whether the processor gets more voltage with a negative offset of -25
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The lower you go, the more voltage it gets while trying to push the core harder upwards. Positive curve has the opposite effect.. sorta. The curve works in conjunction with your power limits. Not enough power to back the curve at the commanded clock, and it will crash.
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But I'll try to copy your numbers and run Cinebench R23
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You cant, those were static numbers I think. I kicked the shit out of my 5600X, and she loved it. It is running in my sons system right now, and I am low on TIM or else I would demonstrate for you. My 5600X is stable at 2000 1:1.. good chip.. has been to 2100 1:1 a few times. this page has all 3 of my CPUs running aida64.. its an old, long running thread..

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...y-benchmark-here.186338/page-102#post-5060353

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And another main influence is the motherboard
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Maybe to a point, but the CPU is very easy to drive. 130w PPT with tuned PBO is mighty impressive, trust me.. you dont need a sledgehammer to kick it in the cores a little.
 
freeagentt said:
Thanks, I am kind of loveable once you get to know me.

The lower you go, the more voltage it gets while trying to push the core harder upwards. Positive curve has the opposite effect.. sorta. The curve works in conjunction with your power limits. Not enough power to back the curve at the commanded clock, and it will crash.

You cant, those were static numbers I think. I kicked the shit out of my 5600X, and she loved it. It is running in my sons system right now, and I am low on TIM or else I would demonstrate for you. My 5600X is stable at 2000 1:1.. good chip.. has been to 2100 1:1 a few times. this page has all 3 of my CPUs running aida64.. its an old, long running thread..

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...y-benchmark-here.186338/page-102#post-5060353


Maybe to a point, but the CPU is very easy to drive. 130w PPT with tuned PBO is mighty impressive, trust me.. you dont need a sledgehammer to kick it in the cores a little.
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What numbers should I put for PPT, TDC and EDC then?

And which air cooler is better, has better performance, noctua nh-u12s or thermalright venomous X?
I bought an am4 kit for thermalright venomous x so now I can install it on am4 socket.
Venomous X has more heat pipes and should be better because of that,but I'm not sure if it's really better or not.
 
Strange bird said:
https://www.thermalright.com/product/venomous-x/
I mean this old X, so that there is no confusion
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It will be fine, it is an easy CPU to cool.

Here is another shot of mine in action.

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I installed the old venomous X on am4, you haven't seen that yet
 

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Sweet. I have Le Grand Macho RT and True Spirit 140 Power, and an AM4 mount for them. But I prefer their newer coolers. Right now I am using one of their AIOs.
 
freeagentt said:
Sweet. I have Le Grand Macho RT and True Spirit 140 Power, and an AM4 mount for them. But I prefer their newer coolers. Right now I am using one of their AIOs.
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I don't think it's better than the noctua nh-u12s, as far as I can see, it's all similar.
As for the paste, I don't really like this MX5, it's somehow too thin and seems to be falling apart.
I still have an MX4 and I have the noctua nth1, the first version.
I put the MX5 on again. It should have the best performance. By the way, venomous x has a mirror finish, noctua doesn't.
RDR2 crashes again when msi afterburner is running, my card was undervolted but it doesn't work anymore with that in rdr2, they broke something with the drivers again.

As for water, I don't need it for this cpu. If I had something more expensive, then maybe I would look at aio.
 
Strange bird said:
As for the paste, I don't really like this MX5, it's somehow too thin and seems to be falling apart.
I still have an MX4 and I have the noctua nth1, the first version.
I put the MX5 on again. It should have the best performance.
RDR2 crashes again when msi afterburner is running, my card was undervolted but it doesn't work anymore with that in rdr2, they broke something with the drivers again.
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no one mentioned mx5 until you did... but yes, it does break down and thats why it was pulled. use 4 or 6 instead.
its because youre undervolting...
 
pendragon1 said:
no one mentioned mx5 until you did... but yes, it does break down and thats why it was pulled. use 4 or 6 instead.
its because youre undervolting...
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I didn't know that, they withdrew from production and sales?
Is it dangerous to use or what? I recently put it on
 
Strange bird said:
I didn't know that, they withdrew from production and sales?
Is it dangerous to use or what? I recently put it on
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i thought it was pulled, looks like its still for sale some places. yes it seperates in the tube. on the cpu youll probably see early pump out. itll work, just not as long as their pastes usually do.
 
as per AMDs own instructions, ALWAYS remove old chipset drivers before installing new ones.
ps: it only updates chips support for the new AI models.
 
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