First Ryzen build (5600x) frustrations(?)

freeagentt said:
I run my 5600X at 200/140/160 +150 -28 all core.

It will boost all cores to 4800MHz no problem, all core loads are usually at 4650-4700MHz, such as Linpack.
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Does it mean that the processor gets a higher voltage if the number per core is closer to -30 or inversely?
As far as I understand, it's the other way around, if it's closer to -30, it means that the processor gets less volts and that processor copy is better, better binning as the saying goes
 
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Strange bird said:
Does it mean that the processor gets a higher voltage if the number per core is closer to -30 or inversely?
As far as I understand, it's the other way around, if it's closer to -30, it means that the processor gets less volts and that processor copy is better, better binning as the saying goes
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Yes. As soon as you activate the curve, whether you add power or take it away, it will try to push clocks and voltage. It is not meant for undervolting anything..
 
pendragon, let's turn cinebench r23 SC and MC but without doing anything else, to see how much you get and compare with mine
 
pendragon1 said:
i already have, its on page 1
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Yes, but do it without doing anything else.
I change the negative offsets by -2, so let's say from -18 I put -16, or from -28 to -26 and I get about 200 points lower score in r23 MC
I do not understand
 
Strange bird said:
Yes, but do it without doing anything else.
I change the negative offsets by -2, so let's say from -18 I put -16, or from -28 to -26 and I get about 200 points lower score in r23 MC
I do not understand
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no. and 200 points can be just a run variance.
 
pendragon1 said:
no. and 200 points can be just a run variance.
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Which are better for testing than cinebench r23, to give more accurate results?
And what temperature is dangerous for ryzen 5600x, for me in ryzen master when I start per core optimization it goes up to 83 degrees celsius(SI),I don't know how you measure,in F or C
 
Strange bird said:
Which are better for testing than cinebench r23, to give more accurate results?
And what temperature is dangerous for ryzen 5600x, for me in ryzen master when I start per core optimization it goes up to 83 degrees celsius(SI),I don't know how you measure,in F or C
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its fine, but all benchmarks will have a slight variance between runs, its normal.
you can google that, youre within spec, but might want to crank your fans for the optimization process.
 
5600X can take more heat than its bigger brothers. It’s meant to kick the shit out of :)
 
Now i got MC 12146 and SC 1582
Negative offset set on C1-16,C2-20,C3-20,C4-24,C5-26,C6-18
It is with +150MHz,PPT 150,TDC 114,EDC 168
X1 multiplicator

i typo'd there. it should be -.025v and you set it in the cpu voltage section of your bios.
I don't have this in my bios, it's different for me, I have no idea how to set it up, I'll give you screenshots of how it all looks in my bios now
 
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Here's how it looks right now
By the way, I got a new memory at 3600MHz, but it is not much better than with the old one, in cinebench23 the results are not better.
Now in aida I get memory read about 48904, memory write 28106, memory copy 43986.
Read is generally the largest with the new memory.
My FCLK now works at 1796.8MHz
 

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maybe try turning off auto on the cpu voltage? youre gonna have to figure this out on your own, i dont have the same system as you so i have no idea where it is....
ps: theres this shitty thing most of us have to do called "work". thats were everyone is. this is a north american based forum after all....
 
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I got a new bios, it says Optimize system settings.
Kudos to the asrock team, you can see that they are taking care of my motherboard.
I'm going to install now.
 
where have you been? i replied on Wed... ;)
good, fingers crossed.
 
pendragon1 said:
where have you been? i replied on Wed... ;)
good, fingers crossed.
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By the way, I've seen it before, but I wasn't sure if it was that, but again I don't have the option to set +150MHz.
The bios is all messed up, I can't find the time to play with the bios.
I couldn't set -.025v, the lowest I could go was -6 and something, I don't know if I will be able to set -0.025 with the new bios.
The bios installation was successful, I entered windows.
 
You should not have to touch vcore at all, don't touch. Just use power limits and the curve. Same with FMax if you are fucking with it. Also put the scalar back.
 
Put it to 0.

And turn CPU LLC off.

Better yet.

Clear CMOS, set XMP, and run it as is.

We have fed you simple instructions that you cannot follow.
 
freeagentt said:
Put it to 0.

And turn CPU LLC off.

Better yet.

Clear CMOS, set XMP, and run it as is.

We have fed you simple instructions that you cannot follow.
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Yes, but pendragon told me before to set it to -0.025 and I can't do that, so it wasn't clear to me.
If I set it to 0, should I then set PBO to auto or enabled or disabled? What about core performance boost, CPB, how should I put it?
 
click in the box, type -0.025, hit enter
if that doesnt work click the box above it and see if it says negative offset then do it again.
if that still doesn work, just apply the optimized default and stop messing with it since you dont seem to understand how to.
 
Auto is off, cpb? not sure what that is, on my boards its called boost override.

These are just settings to get you in the right direction. They still need to be proved out in your system.

Some guys can make this all sound easy, but there is a lot of testing behind the scenes.
 
freeagentt said:
Auto is off, cpb? not sure what that is, on my boards its called boost override.

These are just settings to get you in the right direction. They still need to be proved out in your system.

Some guys can make this all sound easy, but there is a lot of testing behind the scenes.
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Yes I know, I used LLC level 5 on the ryzen 2700x, it increases and maintains a more stable voltage.
Core performance boost is CPB, I also used that with Ryzen 2700x, with it I also used 4GHz all core with fixed voltage.
I see that you are also on the techpowerup forum, dealing with records in oc.
 
Skull_Angel said:
Hey guys, just needed to vent a bit because this is the first build I've put together in over 20 years that's been so simple to tune that it's actually frustrating; I swear it's going to give me anxiety due to the lack of issues throughout stability testing.

I went into this build fully expecting to encounter some issues I've read about in various forums, but have been pretty lucky with nothing showing up, which is great. The only tuning problems I've had so far have been from manual RAM overclocking, but that's been ironed out with great success on settings I'm content with.

The CPU overclocking through PBO, auto-oc, and curve offsets has been what's driving me up the wall though; it's simple (too simple?? I've only ever done manual OCs before), but mostly undocumented and seemingly works even with horrible settings. I spent too long looking for info only to find users experiences, so decided to experiment myself until reaching the performance limits of what my chip and setup could do... In all that time testing and benching the only settings to cause any issues were curve optimizer and it's got me paranoid as to whether the damn thing is actually stable! It's run the gauntlet of tests from 10 cycles of y-cruncher, various OCCT tests and settings, 20+ hrs CoreCycler, TM5, 20+ hrs P95, ect. Is FIT just too aggressive at protecting the CPU? If it is, can this really be considered stable? Am I overthinking this??(probably)

For all intents and purposes tuning should be considered finished and all that's left to finalize it is a clean install. There's just that little voice that keeps saying "It can't be this easy, right??".

/rantoff

System specs for anyone interested:
AMD 5600x (aOC +150, PPT 114, TDC 72, EDC 104, minor curve offsets 0, -3, -12, -12, 0, -3)(NH-D15)
MSI x570 Tomahawk (1.2.0.3b)
G.skill FlareX 2x16gb (3800/1900 16-16-16-16-24-40 @1.43v)
Sapphire Nitro+ 6700xt (stock OC)
BeQuiet Straight Power 11 750w
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As long as you don't BSOD or have some crazy memory errors, you are good! Have fun with the system and just keep using as normal unless you notice any problems. Welcome to the new era of overclocking
 
I got a new MBO bios, something for security, I don't know if the new cpu is affected or only the older ones.

"Update AMD AM4 AGESA Combo V2 PI 1.2.0.Cc to patch SMM Lock Bypass security issue.

Check your MBO and upgrade your bios.
 
I discovered a new setting in bios that you can turn off, SB Clock Spread Spectrum, put it on disable.

"
They exist so that motherboard vendors can meet US regulations regarding electromagnetic interference. Oscillating the base frequency of certain components limits the EM radiation leaking out your PC. Problem is the regulation is extremely out-dated, and there is no actual risk of your PC interfering, or being interfered with, unless you live right next to a giant unshielded power transformer.

Leave them off."

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/pjq35m/sb_clockvrm_spread_spectrum_on_or_off5950x_oc/
 
I got 12350 points in cinebench r23, that's my record so far.
I set the BCLK to 100MHz fixed, when it's on auto it's always lower.
And I set all cores to -25mV where it says CPU V-Core Voltage.
But this cinebench r23 somehow oscillates a lot, sometimes it drops below 12000 points, I don't know why.My SC score is the highest I got, it was 1602.
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Strange bird said:
I transferred 12400 points to the r23, if I had a better motherboard (8 phases or more) with a better bios layout and a stronger cooler than the noctua shit, I'd kick your ass, just like that.
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You wouldnt kick my ass. Those scores are 4 years old, still have hardware points.

I would fucking rock u noob haha.
 
freeagentt said:
You wouldnt kick my ass. Those scores are 4 years old, still have hardware points.

I would fucking rock u noob haha.
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Most folks here are sharing there settings as benched. How about yours? Please don't tell me you don't remember tough guy.
 
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