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First E4300 Review.... :)

1.6 V !!!!!!! no mention of what cooling was used and what the temps were. Bit too much Vcc for my tastes but once the price drops it sure looks like a fun one to play with.
 
My only gripe with this review: the conclusion is spastic.

"Performance of the Core 2 Duo E4300 isn't that impressive as that of the senior models of the series. Although it differs by only 3-5% from the Core 2 Duo E6300, the new CPU is slower than the Pentium D 945 and Athlon 64 X2 4200+, which cost about the same money, in some benchmarks. But there are few such benchmarks and the new CPU is far more economical than any of its opponents."

Err... actually, in most of the tests the E4300 is as fast or faster than the PD 945 and X2 4200+. :rolleyes:
 
I like the 800mhz fsb, definitely leaves alot of room open for even a weak board to OC.
 
Great results as expected. I know it won't reach the same overclocking results as the E6X00 series but for the price, it is a good deal since you can buy cheaper memory, which is a big factor for those with a tight budget.
 
Nice Review, Glad to see their working on more chips for all price ranges. I'm still going with a 6600 in my new build though :D
 
/drools

Great chip for those on a budget with cheap DDR2-667 memory (me, basically)

Actually, I would like to see more benchies. I'd like to see a OCed 4300 versus an OCed 6300, maybe an OCed 6600, as well as a 2.4 4300 versus a stock 6600.
 
harpoon said:
My only gripe with this review: the conclusion is spastic.

"Performance of the Core 2 Duo E4300 isn't that impressive as that of the senior models of the series. Although it differs by only 3-5% from the Core 2 Duo E6300, the new CPU is slower than the Pentium D 945 and Athlon 64 X2 4200+, which cost about the same money, in some benchmarks. But there are few such benchmarks and the new CPU is far more economical than any of its opponents."

Err... actually, in most of the tests the E4300 is as fast or faster than the PD 945 and X2 4200+. :rolleyes:
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Yea I agree the conclusion is out of whack with there own overall benchmark results. :confused:
 
The Goose said:
/drools

Great chip for those on a budget with cheap DDR2-667 memory (me, basically)

Actually, I would like to see more benchies. I'd like to see a OCed 4300 versus an OCed 6300, maybe an OCed 6600, as well as a 2.4 4300 versus a stock 6600.
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Great budget overclocer !! Great if you have low end ram,or have to buy but dont want to spend a small fortune on ram,and this opens things up a bit for those with mobo's not cable of 450/500+ FSB speeds.No matter how you look at it its a great buy.And I bet the chips ability to oc will only get better as time goes by.[H] needs to do a expanded review,using there own sample.
 
this will definitely replace the 6400 as the preferred overclocking chip.

the 6300's were too hard to overclock b/c of the low multiplier (high FSB needed)
the 6400's were good

the 4300 will be PERFECT! Low price, higher multiplier! It will give you the option of 400x9 = 3.6Ghz if you have a nice chip, or 400x8 = 3.2Ghz if your chip isn't quite that great.

I can see a lot of people getting 100% overclocks in the future! I also see the AMD forum becoming empty & quiet after this.
This is going to sway the last few hold outs.
 
chrisf6969 said:
this will definitely replace the 6400 as the preferred overclocking chip.

the 6300's were too hard to overclock b/c of the low multiplier (high FSB needed)
the 6400's were good

the 4300 will be PERFECT! Low price, higher multiplier! It will give you the option of 400x9 = 3.6Ghz if you have a nice chip, or 400x8 = 3.2Ghz if your chip isn't quite that great.

I can see a lot of people getting 100% overclocks in the future! I also see the AMD forum becoming empty & quiet after this.
This is going to sway the last few hold outs.
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You are right... I'm a AMD fan but the E4300 is the bait I needed to switch back and my next setup will be based on it unless AMD can come back with a better solution for a good price, which is unlikely.
 
chrisf6969 said:
this will definitely replace the 6400 as the preferred overclocking chip.

the 6300's were too hard to overclock b/c of the low multiplier (high FSB needed)
the 6400's were good

the 4300 will be PERFECT! Low price, higher multiplier! It will give you the option of 400x9 = 3.6Ghz if you have a nice chip, or 400x8 = 3.2Ghz if your chip isn't quite that great.

I can see a lot of people getting 100% overclocks in the future! I also see the AMD forum becoming empty & quiet after this.
This is going to sway the last few hold outs.
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I have been saying that for near two months now. :) You are right of course,as it will.Intel took the gloves off the minute they announced this.
 
i cant wait to see how the 4400 does....

Would be awesome if you could buy a crappy motherboard and ram and STILL reach high speeds :)
 
wee96 said:
I like the 800mhz fsb, definitely leaves alot of room open for even a weak board to OC.
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That's what this CPU is all about... :D
Get a CRAPPY (!!!!) Via hybrid (AGP + ePCI + DDR1 + DDR2) mobo for ~$50, get the E4300, set the FSB to 266 and you got yourself E6600 (minus 2MB cache) upgrade for ~$200... Perfect for all on tight budget... Last time I checked, 2.4GHz C2D's still destroy anything AMD's got to offer... That will be the end to ANY "low-price" advantage AMD's got left today...:eek:
 
mzs_biteme said:
That's what this CPU is all about... :D
Get a CRAPPY (!!!!) Via hybrid (AGP + ePCI + DDR1 + DDR2) mobo for ~$50, get the E4300, set the FSB to 266 and you got yourself E6600 (minus 2MB cache) upgrade for ~$200... Perfect for all on tight budget... Last time I checked, 2.4GHz C2D's still destroy anything AMD's got to offer... That will be the end to ANY "low-price" advantage AMD's got left today...:eek:
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Yea I have no doubt Intel had it in mind knowing it would be a seller, although the enthusiast market is small, they seem to be trying to make everyone at all levels in computing happy lately and its working.
 
mzs_biteme said:
That's what this CPU is all about... :D
Get a CRAPPY (!!!!) Via hybrid (AGP + ePCI + DDR1 + DDR2) mobo for ~$50, get the E4300, set the FSB to 266 and you got yourself E6600 (minus 2MB cache) upgrade for ~$200... Perfect for all on tight budget... Last time I checked, 2.4GHz C2D's still destroy anything AMD's got to offer... That will be the end to ANY "low-price" advantage AMD's got left today...:eek:
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qft.....

this chip is the best enthusiast chip i've seen in a very long time.
 
I'm sold, now I just need it to come out already! I gotta build some new systems in February for my family, and this will fit the upgrade bill perfectly. Gunna overclock the crap out of it to, hopefully there will be some nice 650i boards to choose from.
 
With low volts & sweet power, this looks to be the CPU of choice for those rigging a silent PC that still performs?
 
Xilikon said:
With reviews pouring, we can see it doing 9x400 for 3,6 GHz as the sweet spot for the E4300 owners.
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Am I missing something?, no one has had one running at 3.6gig yet, little own calling 3.6 gig a sweet spot.

It may simply not do 3.6gig, anandtech said...

""With a 9x multiplier the E4300 can potentially reach as high as 9x400 or 3.6 GHz while keeping memory at or below DDR2-800.""

Note the word "potentially", if it was so easy to hit 3.6gig why did they only O/C to 3.38 begs the question.
 
Battleneter2 said:
Am I missing something?, no one has had one running at 3.6gig yet, little own calling 3.6 gig a sweet spot.

It may simply not do 3.6gig, anandtech said...

""With a 9x multiplier the E4300 can potentially reach as high as 9x400 or 3.6 GHz while keeping memory at or below DDR2-800.""

Note the word "potentially", if it was so easy to hit 3.6gig why did they only O/C to 3.38 begs the question.
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I picked the wrong word... I wanted to say that the nice round goal would be 9x400 for 1:1 memory... I'm sure that with proper cooling and tweaking, it can be reached pretty often.
 
Anandtech reports this thing will be dropping to $133 in Q2. but dailytech has the E4400 at that price point and the E4300 at $113. i'm planning on using either of these guys in my next system

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5414

now the dilema arises: would it be worth the extra $20 for the 10x multi of the E4400 vs. the 9x of the E4300? i'm thinking that in April the E4400 will be taking the king of overlocking crown.
 
ASUDevil83 said:
now the dilema arises: would it be worth the extra $20 for the 10x multi of the E4400 vs. the 9x of the E4300? i'm thinking that in April the E4400 will be taking the king of overlocking crown.
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Eh, wouldn't make much of a difference either way, unless you have really slow DDR2 RAM or running something like an Asrock DualVSTA board that only does 300FSB stable, then the E4400 would allow you to overclock a bit further.
 
So when's it going on sale? It'll be replacing the 915 in my sig I guess :rolleyes:

Need something new to overclock:p
 
BillParrish said:
1.6 V !!!!!!! no mention of what cooling was used and what the temps were. Bit too much Vcc for my tastes but once the price drops it sure looks like a fun one to play with.
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The CPU was cooled with a Zalman CMPS9500 LED cooler.
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Following the standard procedure we increased the clock rate of our CPU in 1.9 times! We achieved this without employing any special cooling means - we used an air cooler.
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-bZj
 
waltherone said:
So when's it going on sale? It'll be replacing the 915 in my sig I guess :rolleyes:

Need something new to overclock:p
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I'm from Australia and a few stores have it on pre-release sale already, though the price isn't any lower than the E6300 at this point.
 
So if Intel ships the 4300 on the 21st, when can we expect NewEgg to be selling them?

I have been holding-off on my build for months waiting for this CPU, and I'm getting impatient!
 
Probably on launch day or very shortly after.

All of the other Core 2 (even the Quads) chips were hard launched. With just limited shortages in the beginning. I'd imagine the first batch might sell out, from people wanting to play with these new cheap OC'ing champs. But with in 2 weeks inventory & prices will probably be stable.
 
Am I reading this correctly? This little bugger is hanging with a QX6800 when OC'ed? For $130-$160?

What's the catch?

I hear the E6320 and E6420 will have a 4mb L2 cache. Any point in waiting for this to happen?
 
Doesn't it bother you that it needs to be overclocked not to 2.9, not to 3.0, but to 3.38Ghz in order to match the X6800? A E6400 does that at 2.88 :rolleyes: (all according to Anandtech)
 
Raudulfr said:
Doesn't it bother you that it needs to be overclocked not to 2.9, not to 3.0, but to 3.38Ghz in order to match the X6800? A E6400 does that at 2.88 :rolleyes: (all according to Anandtech)
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If these puppies are ever tagged at $113-$130, they can punch me in the face and I'll still be happy.
 
Raudulfr said:
But for now they aren't much cheaper than a E6300...
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Right. I wont be upgrading until this rig has lasted me one full year. This 1 year anniversary conveniently lands on Q2 this year. For once something finally works in my favor!

They promise the E6320 and E6420 to be the same price as their predecessors, so I guess only time will tell. I will buy accordingly.
 
Raudulfr said:
Doesn't it bother you that it needs to be overclocked not to 2.9, not to 3.0, but to 3.38Ghz in order to match the X6800? A E6400 does that at 2.88 :rolleyes: (all according to Anandtech)
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what the hell do you expect with an 800Mhz FSB and 2mb cache vs. 1066Mhz and 4mb cache?

this proc is a damn good overlocker....and your COMPLAINING. :rolleyes:
 
Since they overclocked it to past what a stock x6800 chip runs on fsb it is kinda weird it still loses to it in games.
 
ASUDevil83 said:
what the hell do you expect with an 800Mhz FSB and 2mb cache vs. 1066Mhz and 4mb cache?

this proc is a damn good overlocker....and your COMPLAINING. :rolleyes:
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There's nothing to complain... But the graphs are interesting... So does E6300 perform similar to E4300 when overclocked?
 
The E6300 performs a bit better, but not too much at all. Looks like I'll be making a system overhaul in Q2.
 
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