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Eyefinity Configuration Suggestions

Hi guys. I am pondering moving from my Dell 3007WFP-HC to a 3xU2311H setup, and purchasing a 6970 to power them.

Couple questions:

1) is 23'' a bad idea because I would be using 16:9 instead of 16:10, and it seems that the latter is the preferred ratio
2) is the 6970 enough to power them?
3) i would prefer to stick with Dell since I have a line of credit with them, but if there are significantly better options at 23'' or even 24'', I'd entertain it, but it seems that the U2311 are pretty popular

Any questions or comments are always helpful, you guys are the best.

I don't think you'd be happy doing that. Anytime I use a smaller monitor I'm not pleased. If you must step down I'd get at least the U24011. You still maintain your 16:10 ratio.
 
I don't think you'd be happy doing that. Anytime I use a smaller monitor I'm not pleased. If you must step down I'd get at least the U24011. You still maintain your 16:10 ratio.

So even by 'technically' adding real estate, just the visual and noticeable decrease in size alone would be that noticeable?
 
So even by 'technically' adding real estate, just the visual and noticeable decrease in size alone would be that noticeable?

Yes it is. 24" monitors feel tiny compared to 30"s. After having a 30" for so long my center monitor has to be that size or I'm not happy. Back when I had just one 30" and wanted Eyefinity I considered stepping down to 24"s as it was significantly cheaper. Now I'm happy that I stuck with my gut and went for 3x30's. Only thing I wish for now is the ability to run them in portrait mode. Their existing stands won't allow for that. I've not found any others that will work well for monitors this large.
 
Yes it is. 24" monitors feel tiny compared to 30"s. After having a 30" for so long my center monitor has to be that size or I'm not happy. Back when I had just one 30" and wanted Eyefinity I considered stepping down to 24"s as it was significantly cheaper. Now I'm happy that I stuck with my gut and went for 3x30's. Only thing I wish for now is the ability to run them in portrait mode. Their existing stands won't allow for that. I've not found any others that will work well for monitors this large.

Hmmmm. Good point.

Also, generally speaking, is Eyefinity fruitful 3x24inches or above when you would rather not go Crossfire?
 
The best thing to do, if you're like me and unwilling to drop huge amounts of money on two new 30" to complement the one 30" (plus the additional hardware to make it playable), is to complement the 30" with three smaller monitors.

So for games that look good and work well in Eyefinity, you can use those. For games that don't, use the 30".

I am using a KT 325 stand and, after I get a longer pole, I'll mount 3x22" or 2x22" flanking a 24" for Eyefinity. Underneath that, on its own stand, I'll have the 30".
 
Yes it is. 24" monitors feel tiny compared to 30"s. After having a 30" for so long my center monitor has to be that size or I'm not happy. Back when I had just one 30" and wanted Eyefinity I considered stepping down to 24"s as it was significantly cheaper. Now I'm happy that I stuck with my gut and went for 3x30's. Only thing I wish for now is the ability to run them in portrait mode. Their existing stands won't allow for that. I've not found any others that will work well for monitors this large.

You could get the KT 325 triple-monitor stand with a 36" or 42" pole. The stand is supposed to be able to hold monitors of up to 30 lbs. each, but you could e-mail the guys who sell them and ask.
 
You could get the KT 325 triple-monitor stand with a 36" or 42" pole. The stand is supposed to be able to hold monitors of up to 30 lbs. each, but you could e-mail the guys who sell them and ask.

Where do you get this stand? I tried googling it and nothing showed. Any pics?
Thanks.
 
Where do you get this stand? I tried googling it and nothing showed. Any pics?
Thanks.

I think I found it. Unfortunately it shows support for 25" and smaller monitors only. It also requires drilling a hole in the desk. I will not do that.
 
Link is broken.

Link is broken because you guys broke it. ;) Something like this happens on these forums with a number of company links, like Go Gamer. Com, and I've heard the reason is that you banned this and that company's URL for advertising here or something.

At any rate, Google still works...KTA325.
 
Looking for an [H]onest opinion here...

I currently have a 27" 1920x1200 monitor, and a smaller side monitor in portrait for browsing, music, etc while gaming. I am thinking of finally getting into the nvsurround/eyefinity market as it seems to me nowadays more and more games are running well with it (especially games I play, after looking at a post in the gaming forums).

My question is this, I am under the impression that all 3 monitors have to be the same resolution, however I don't know if I want to spend money on 2 more 27's, especially considering I would want 3 matching monitors and my current one is older (although it works great). If I were to pickup 2 24's that were in 1920x1200, would I not really get the full experience? Would it be worth it? I was thinking also maybe selling my current monitors and picking up 3 27's at 1920x1080 wouldn't break the bank, but then I am not sure if I want to "downgrade" to a 1080.

TLDR: Get 2 24's (1200) for the sides of my 27"? Get 3 27's (1080)? Or find 2 27's (1200) of my same model, which may be difficult?
 
I'd say get a third monitor of any discription, setup three displays and see if you like the general idea. You can even use softTH to get a feel for what gaming is like over three displays before you go dropping any cash in either direction (nvidia v eyefinity) :)
 
I'd say get a third monitor of any discription, setup three displays and see if you like the general idea. You can even use softTH to get a feel for what gaming is like over three displays before you go dropping any cash in either direction (nvidia v eyefinity) :)

Thanks. I was actually thinking about borrowing a monitor to just test it out, but that would leave me with 3 different resolutions, which I am assuming would just be a mess. I have GTX 460 1GB in SLI, so I think I am good there. I do realize that this may be one of the weaker GPU options for triple monitors, but I am okay with scaling some settings back.

I guess the thing is, if I were to go ahead with it, I would want to be blown away. After more reading, I am hearing that I wont be blown away unless I have 3 of the same monitor...
 
Looking for an [H]onest opinion here...

I currently have a 27" 1920x1200 monitor, and a smaller side monitor in portrait for browsing, music, etc while gaming. I am thinking of finally getting into the nvsurround/eyefinity market as it seems to me nowadays more and more games are running well with it (especially games I play, after looking at a post in the gaming forums).

My question is this, I am under the impression that all 3 monitors have to be the same resolution, however I don't know if I want to spend money on 2 more 27's, especially considering I would want 3 matching monitors and my current one is older (although it works great). If I were to pickup 2 24's that were in 1920x1200, would I not really get the full experience? Would it be worth it? I was thinking also maybe selling my current monitors and picking up 3 27's at 1920x1080 wouldn't break the bank, but then I am not sure if I want to "downgrade" to a 1080.

TLDR: Get 2 24's (1200) for the sides of my 27"? Get 3 27's (1080)? Or find 2 27's (1200) of my same model, which may be difficult?

Go with two smaller side monitors. I have tried this technology and I can tell you that it is a waste of space and money to get three identically-sized monitors. The way it should really be set up is a center monitor that is 2-3" larger than the side monitors. Your eyes focus on the center, so the side monitors are not as important. In fact, if your monitors are all equally sized, and angled the way most people angle them, your center monitor appears to be smaller than your side monitors, which makes no sense. Also, with smaller side monitors, the "fisheye" effect of Eyefinity will be less pronounced.

In short, since PLP is not an option, the bigger center monitor is the next best thing.
 
you don't have to get identical monitors, they just all have to handle at least one common resolution and that is what you'll be gaming at. But I would suggest 2 new 1200p 27"s. Use which ever monitor is the best as the middle and you're Golden. BTW 1GB 460SLI is no slouch, even at 5760x1200 res.
 
you don't have to get identical monitors, they just all have to handle at least one common resolution and that is what you'll be gaming at. But I would suggest 2 new 1200p 27"s. Use which ever monitor is the best as the middle and you're Golden. BTW 1GB 460SLI is no slouch, even at 5760x1200 res.

Yes it is, get the 2GB model if you go 460 SLI. You need the extra VRAM for fancy things like AA and nice textures.
 
you don't have to get identical monitors, they just all have to handle at least one common resolution and that is what you'll be gaming at. But I would suggest 2 new 1200p 27"s. Use which ever monitor is the best as the middle and you're Golden. BTW 1GB 460SLI is no slouch, even at 5760x1200 res.

That would be nice, except that the 27" cost almost as much as the 30". The premium on those things is just ridiculous and I'm not willing to buy more than one ~$1000 monitor.
 
not sure how much the 27" costs but you can pickup the asus vw266h for 230 each after rebates. Sell your 27 and pick up the 26 1200P. Also no need to be spending ridiculous $$$ on a stand amazon has decent articulating arms per monitor for about $20 each.
 
I think I found it. Unfortunately it shows support for 25" and smaller monitors only. It also requires drilling a hole in the desk. I will not do that.

Sorry, that's not the right one. It's called the Chief KTA325:

http://www.++++++++++.com/product_info.php?products_id=15941

Obviously, you can't configure 3x30" landscape with it, but it should work for portrait mode.

Thanks for the info. Those stands are awesome! Too bad they cost as much as a new TV...
 
Thanks. I was actually thinking about borrowing a monitor to just test it out, but that would leave me with 3 different resolutions, which I am assuming would just be a mess. I have GTX 460 1GB in SLI, so I think I am good there. I do realize that this may be one of the weaker GPU options for triple monitors, but I am okay with scaling some settings back.

I guess the thing is, if I were to go ahead with it, I would want to be blown away. After more reading, I am hearing that I wont be blown away unless I have 3 of the same monitor...

Have a look at this as an example of what I meant. I got interested in multi-monitor gaming a couple of years ago and found a little tool which makes it possible on the cheap.

Instead of spending hundreds of pounds on identical monitors before I even knew how well multi monitor gaming worked/looked I decided to throw three screens together. I had a 22" crt so grabbed a 17" and a 19" crt to test with. I ended up using those three monitors for 6months. People that say it looks awful are either rich kids or perfectionists. After a while I decided I'd like my side monitors to atleast match each other so as to not look so odd (not so multimonitor gaming would work better, or that it would make it easier to setup because it wouldn't).

Anyhow, I checked around locally and found two identical 17" tft's for £50 the pair so I grabbed those and replaced my odd sized monitors with them. I now have 17"+22"+17" and fisheye is a problem others have to deal with. I don't have any of the nvidia surround/eye-finity/display port issues others have who have chosen those routes. I drop a modified DX9.dll into any games main folder and then choose my multi-monitor gaming resolution ingame.....job done. Sure beats dropping hundreds of $ on hardware to play with fisheye effects :(

Here's Rfactor at 6160x1400. Left/Right 17" runs 1800x1400, centre runs 2560x1400.

As you can see there is a slight colour difference between the centre and side panels but this is more pronounced on camera, when playing games this is un-noticeable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIDCQ33R--0
 
not sure how much the 27" costs but you can pickup the asus vw266h for 230 each after rebates. Sell your 27 and pick up the 26 1200P. Also no need to be spending ridiculous $$$ on a stand amazon has decent articulating arms per monitor for about $20 each.

I owned those. Those monitors are decent for what they are, but they are nowhere in the same league as IPS 30" or IPS 27" in quality or detail, given the pixel density and panel type.

Anyway, I don't think you understand: look at my sig. Those are the monitors I'm running. There is no way to do Eyefinity with a 1600p monitor unless you're using other 1600p monitors, and those are all 30" IPS ~$1200 a piece and always have been since they came "down" to that price point years ago.

Not sure where you are seeing articularing arms for $20, but that's not the same thing as a mount, which includes a way to actually mount the stand to the desk. I can't drill holes in walls in a rented apartment. This thing will last forever, so I didn't mind investing $300.
 
Have a look at this as an example of what I meant. I got interested in multi-monitor gaming a couple of years ago and found a little tool which makes it possible on the cheap.

Instead of spending hundreds of pounds on identical monitors before I even knew how well multi monitor gaming worked/looked I decided to throw three screens together. I had a 22" crt so grabbed a 17" and a 19" crt to test with. I ended up using those three monitors for 6months. People that say it looks awful are either rich kids or perfectionists. After a while I decided I'd like my side monitors to atleast match each other so as to not look so odd (not so multimonitor gaming would work better, or that it would make it easier to setup because it wouldn't).

Anyhow, I checked around locally and found two identical 17" tft's for £50 the pair so I grabbed those and replaced my odd sized monitors with them. I now have 17"+22"+17" and fisheye is a problem others have to deal with. I don't have any of the nvidia surround/eye-finity/display port issues others have who have chosen those routes. I drop a modified DX9.dll into any games main folder and then choose my multi-monitor gaming resolution ingame.....job done. Sure beats dropping hundreds of $ on hardware to play with fisheye effects :(

Here's Rfactor at 6160x1400. Left/Right 17" runs 1800x1400, centre runs 2560x1400.

As you can see there is a slight colour difference between the centre and side panels but this is more pronounced on camera, when playing games this is un-noticeable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIDCQ33R--0

If you're talking about softTH, that tool worked in almost nothing for me. Only works in some DX9 games and you have to mess around with the config file that goes with its DLLs to get any games working, and the monitor timings are usually off. Might have been nice back in the day, or for a few niche titles, but it was practically worthless when I tried it for most popular games a few months ago.
 
It works well now, newer versions improve things. No messing with configs now, there isn't one if you use the latest version.

I use softTH with all my games including STALKER, HAWX, TDU, RFACTOR, COD2&4, MIRRORS EDGE, MAFIA II, FEAR COMBAT, ASSASSINS CREED, DIRT 2, NFS HOT PURSUIT, NFS SHIFT, RTL SKI JUMPING 2007, SNIPER GHOST WARRIOR, CRYSIS and STREET FIGHTER 4.
It works no problem with BFBC2 aswell but punkbuster kick you for having multiple direct 3d devices loaded (which is probably because they're paid by NV/AMD to only allow their surround/eyefinity to work with PB).

http://www.kegetys.net/SoftTH/ : main site

http://www.kegetys.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=e97f50421b41369403f0b41dc5f7f5db&topic=2123.0 : forum for version 2.04
 
Cool, good to know. That's too bad about BC2 as that's my favorite Eyefinity/Surround game. Plus the DX10 graphics. Have you tried it with COD 6 or does that also cause PB problems?

Also I highly doubt anyone is paying PB off, since SoftTH is so niche. Any time you mess with files in a game directory, that's likely to cause issues with PB.
 
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I haven't tried black ops yet no. COD2 and 4 work no problem though and those both get along with pb just nicely. I know FEAR has no issues but I'm not sure if PB is still updated supported in that game.

If I run BC2 windowed I can get away with 2960x1400 all day long aslong as I leave the BC2 window positioned over desktops 1&2 (both on GTX460). If I move the BC2 window even a pixels width onto desktop 3 (8400GS) after about a minute or so PB kicks in and boots me. This leads me to believe it's not the modified dx9 file but the use of a second display adapter and the fact both cards are nvidia (who tout 3D surround vision aslong as you pay and play nicely with specific cards/cables/displays etc) makes me paranoid :)

I could be wrong though it's entirely possible.
 
I just picked up a XFX HD6870 over on Newegg (great price with a $40 rebate right now). Currently running a 24" Soyo Topaz S (1920x1200) as my main and I'm looking at Eyefinity. I could probably pick up two more of those 24", but I think I'd be just as happy with 2 22" side monitors, but I don't see any out there that'll run 1920x1200. Anyone know of any monitors under 24" that run 1920x1200 natively, or should I just toss the 24" up on eBay and look for 3 other monitors that run 1920x1080? I'd like to keep the costs under $500 if possible.
 
Yeah pretty sure you're out of luck if you're looking for 19x12 monitors sub 24". Hell, you can't buy any new 16:10 monitors sub 24".
 
Ah well. Is it possible to stick 2 portrait LCD's on the side of a Landscape middle? I could pick up 2 19" 1280x1024's and put them on the side, ending up with 3968 x 3760, though I don't even know if Eyefinity can handle that.
 
Just wanted to say thanks for all the insight. Wanted to mention that I already have 460 1GB in SLI, so that GPU side is taken care of for now.

This weekend I did some measurements on my desk and I dont think I would be able to fit even 24's in a tri setup (its a Jerker desk). Going to keep on doing research and also looking around for the exact monitors I want if I do go ahead (275t, 245t, or 3 x 27 @ 1080).
 
Ah well. Is it possible to stick 2 portrait LCD's on the side of a Landscape middle? I could pick up 2 19" 1280x1024's and put them on the side, ending up with 3968 x 3760, though I don't even know if Eyefinity can handle that.

Sadly no. That is the major disappointment of this whole technology with Eyefinity/Surround: no PLP support.

Even though one guy all by himself has done a decent job supporting PLP with SoftTH (though it lacks DX10/11 and SLI/CF support), neither company with all its millions has bothered to make it possible.

It will work in desktop but it won't work in games. Too bad since it looks much better than 3 identical widescreen monitors.
 
Sadly no. That is the major disappointment of this whole technology with Eyefinity/Surround: no PLP support.

Even though one guy all by himself has done a decent job supporting PLP with SoftTH (though it lacks DX10/11 and SLI/CF support), neither company with all its millions has bothered to make it possible.

It will work in desktop but it won't work in games. Too bad since it looks much better than 3 identical widescreen monitors.

I disagree. Flanking my 3007WFP-HC with dual 20" LCD's can't compare with 3 30"s. For racing games this configuration is unmatched. For first person shooters and other types of games 3x30" Portrait mode offers much more visual real-estate than a single 30" or even a 30" flanked by 2 20s."
 
I disagree. Flanking my 3007WFP-HC with dual 20" LCD's can't compare with 3 30"s. For racing games this configuration is unmatched. For first person shooters and other types of games 3x30" Portrait mode offers much more visual real-estate than a single 30" or even a 30" flanked by 2 20s."

A 30" flanked by 2 20"rs is definitely not as good as 3 30"rs in landscape. There's a little more than an extra 30" worth of horizontal resolution in that setup. 2720x1600 (2560x1600 + 160 x1600) to be exact.
 
I disagree. Flanking my 3007WFP-HC with dual 20" LCD's can't compare with 3 30"s. For racing games this configuration is unmatched. For first person shooters and other types of games 3x30" Portrait mode offers much more visual real-estate than a single 30" or even a 30" flanked by 2 20s."



It's subjective, but I'm talking about landscape, not portrait. Portrait is not even worth discussing because unless you are running 3x30"s you don't even have enough width to make portrait viable because the bezels are in the center of your vision. Most of us are not going to spend the equivalent of a used car on monitors so I am not speaking to that configuration. ;)

For the other 99% of us doing landscape with sub 30" screens, I don't like the identical monitor setup for this technology. It seems illogical: if you are focusing on the center screen, why make the side screens just as large? And given the angles at which you position them, the center screen actually ends up looking smaller than the side screen, which is doubly illogical. Also, with equally-sided screens, you get too much distortion (Fisheye).

There's one game out there that spans multiple monitors in Windowed mode no matter what your resolution: Eve Online. I spanned it across my 30" and two portrait 22" and it looked awesome, even though things were not evenly matched up.

It's just sad that we have no PLP options from these multi-million dollar company when one guy in his basement can pull it off to at least some degree, i.e, SoftTH.
 
Alright, so I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and pick up 3 new monitors and go with a 3x1 setup in landscape. Newegg has a great deal on the 23" Acer G235HAbd and it looks like it has great reviews for the most part.

My question is how to hook up the 3rd monitor. I'll hook up the first two using DVI's, but for the third I know I'll need an adapter. For the third monitor, should I use and pickup an adapter for one of the mini displayports or the HDMI port? There any pros or cons to using one over the other?
 
The only rule is that you cannot use two DVIs and HDMI at the same time. Aside from that, just make sure you buy the right adapter. I don't know this kerfuffle about passive vs. active adapter but you'll need to look into that as well.
 
The only rule is that you cannot use two DVIs and HDMI at the same time. Aside from that, just make sure you buy the right adapter. I don't know this kerfuffle about passive vs. active adapter but you'll need to look into that as well.

I just wanna back up this statement. I run all 4 of my monitors off my single HD6870 using 2x DVI cables and 2x Active Mini-Display Port -> Single-Link DVI adapters (Got them for $25 each on newegg).

You DO need ACTIVE to run multiple monitors (3+) at the same time (off the same card). I had a couple $2 passive adapters off monoprice and they worked, but I could ONLY use 2 ports in any combination at the same time (1x DVI & 1x DP, 2x DVI, 2x DP, etc). As soon as I tried to enable the 3rd display in CCC, it gave me a warning and disabled one of the other displays.

Also, if you get an ACTIVE adapter, you have to check whether it's a Single Link or a Dual Link adapter. Some people have those 27"-30" monsters and require a Dual Link adapter (which will cost a lot more).
 
Man, I wish more monitor vendors would start adding display port to their connector options.
 
You DO need ACTIVE to run multiple monitors (3+) at the same time (off the same card). I had a couple $2 passive adapters off monoprice and they worked, but I could ONLY use 2 ports in any combination at the same time (1x DVI & 1x DP, 2x DVI, 2x DP, etc). As soon as I tried to enable the 3rd display in CCC, it gave me a warning and disabled one of the other displays.

Hey pmpysz, which active adapter did you get from Newegg?
 
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