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Eyefinity Configuration Suggestions

cd_rom said:
My contribution to the thread!
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Where's number 5?
 
Its actually 3x 2311H Dell monitors, the left most monitor is my old BenQ24, I use it as a extend display as eyefinity treated Dell monitors as one display.

I game with eyefinity and the BenQ is for other stuff like winamp, temp monitoring etc. Can't add a 5th one anyway as the graphic card (HD 6950) can only handle 4!

I and possibly lot of other people, can't game with just 2 or 4 displays because the bezel will get in the way, but with 3 its fine because I focus on the middle monitor.

Originally had the monitors in landscape mode with just Dell monitors and it really was too wide for me. Not only that, it took up the whole desk! I prefer portrait, its more like playing in front of a 44inch TV lol

Cheers!
 
One of the displays is different than the rest, maybe he just uses three of them when gaming... Mind sharing the wallpaper btw? Edit: guess I was right
 
I wanna get a 3x1 landscape setup but I don't really know which monitor to get. First of all, I think I prefer x1200 resolution instead of all the 1080p ones. The syncmaster 2443BW is pretty cheap and has a x1200 resolution. Will the viewing angle on such a TN panel be wide enough for a 3x1 landscape setup or should I look for an IPS panel (like the cheap 23" Dell IPS panel maybe). Also I want something with a small non-glossy bezel.
Anyways, if anyone can recommend some good 24" screens or tell me about their personal experiences with TN panels in these setups or get me sold on the idea of going bigger than 24", be my guest :D
 
Thanks for the wallpaper...

I've never owned an IPS screen yet but I'm sure if you're picky then the enhanced viewing angles will be welcome. Personally I'm about to pair the old 24" x1200 Samsung screen in my sig with two high end HP ZR24W IPS screens, 1200>1080 for work or if I ever decide to use them in portrait. At $400 ($340 refurbished) they're not cheap tho, you can get comparable 23" 1080 IPS displays for $265.

Anyway, since I plan to at least try to use my TN panel alongside these, the cost comes out similar ($340 + $400 vs $265 x3), we'll see if the Samsung as a side display bothers me, particularly when sitting next to much better screens. Worst case scenario I just replace it later on, rather do that than regret going 23"/1080 x3.
 
IPS only has an advantage with vertical viewing angles, which are hopeless with TN panels if you happen to need it. There is little to no advantage these days with horizontal viewing angles, assuming you are looking at good TN panels.
 
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Since the 22"+27"+22" experiment worked, I went ahead and bought two 23.6" LED LCDs to use instead of the two 22" IPS. When I move somewhere else in spring and get a longer (flat) desk, I'll try to add back my 22" IPS monitors in portrait mode on either side of my 30". The problem is that you can't run more than four monitors on AMD, even with two cards, without breaking CF mode.

If I pop in a separate Nvidia card, it works, but Windows can't remember the monitor position correctly, so it's just a hassle. Don't know if it would be any better using a separate AMD card.
 
cd_rom said:
Its actually 3x 2311H Dell monitors...
Can't add a 5th one anyway as the graphic card (HD 6950) can only handle 4!

Originally had the monitors in landscape mode with just Dell monitors and it really was too wide for me. Not only that, it took up the whole desk! I prefer portrait, its more like playing in front of a 44inch TV lol
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I prefer portrait mode too, its amazing. I get really nasty vertical line tearing that travels horizontally along the screen when playing games/videos in eyefinity in portrait. Does this happen to you? Its fine if I set them up in landscape which is my temporary solution.

I'm running a really similar setup to you, one 6950 w/ 1 Dell 2311H and 2 NEC EA231s. All three are the same panel type and allow bezel correction etc so that with some tweaking they look very similar. I've got them connected using 2 dvi cables and one DP. I've heard the fix is getting them all connected with the same cable type so use a MST hub or get a card like the 6990 which has 3 DP outputs. I'll prob upgrade to a Asus 6970 Direct CU 2 and connect them with 3 DP when it comes out.

I'd post a picture, but I don't have a camera that would do it justice.

Thanks!
 
Westernesse said:
I prefer portrait mode too, its amazing. I get really nasty vertical line tearing that travels horizontally along the screen when playing games/videos in eyefinity in portrait. Does this happen to you? Its fine if I set them up in landscape which is my temporary solution.

Thanks!
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I got the vertical line too but really when I'm looking for it or when I play games and it appears at the spot im staring at. Most of the time, I dont pay attention to it. Plus you know that its there, why bother! Just enjoy the screen estate :)

I dont really know why the line exist but its not a huge deal to me hehe. Good luck with sorting it out :cool:
 
Does it only happen on one screen or are you saying it happens across all three screens? Seems that a lot of people report it happens most on the screen that's connected to the odd port (1 on DVI if the other two are DP, or vice versa)... But there's no way around that on the 6950, short of having three DP displays and a hub.
 
Well, it happens on two of my screens. One with DVI and one with mDP. The 2nd DVI screen dont seem to be effected by it. Strange!
 
Impulse said:
Does it only happen on one screen or are you saying it happens across all three screens? Seems that a lot of people report it happens most on the screen that's connected to the odd port (1 on DVI if the other two are DP, or vice versa)... But there's no way around that on the 6950, short of having three DP displays and a hub.
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It happens on the cable type that doesn't match the main display for me. So if the main display is connected via DP to mDP then the two DVI monitors will tear. If I make a DVI monitor the main display then just the DP to mDP monitor will tear. So right now I have it setup so just one monitor which is an outside monitor in the portrait tears. You can mess around with all sorts of settings to make it more/less noticeable.

The problem ranges from 30 seconds of watching a blu-ray would give me a headache on one extreme to I can watch blu-ray for about an hour, but still get a mild headache afterward if I've set it up to minimize the tearing. That's how it is for any game/movie.

The lone exception is for some reason BC2 doesn't seem to tear, I have no idea why.

The MST hub seems to be the main fix or buy a card like the 6990 that has 4 mDP outputs and hook everything up via DP.
 
**Figured this would be the best place to post this. Sorry for length, and appreciate any help! I will also be researching on my own as well.**

So I finally took the plunge and decided to go triple monitors and went to Frys on Saturday to pick up the Asus 27" VE278Q LED x 3. They had six on hand @ $349.99 and after some haggling, I was able to buy my three for $316/each using the internet price match (provantage). I also had to stop by Ikea to pick up a new desk since they wouldnt fit on my Jerker, ended up getting a glass top Galant! Anyhow, after much installation and setup, I had it all up and running.

Let me just say that after fiddling with the Nvidia Surround settings, I was literally blown away while gaming. I played WoW, L4D2, BC2/Vietnam, and then Black Ops after finding the widescreen fixer thing. It was really such an awesome experience in FPS, I really couldnt imagine gaming on anything less than 3x27" ever again....that is, until I noticed stuck/dead pixels, in each of the monitors. >< That really was one of the reasons I decided to do this from a b&m so I could easily return even for 1 bad pixel.

Anyhow, that was Saturday. I played with it on Sunday and also tried to "fix" the pixels, but none of the common tricks worked. I took them back today, and they had no more of the Asus. They didn't have enough of the Samsung 2770HD, HP LED, or Viewsonic (1 or 2), and all they had was an LG M2762D-PM which had a weird bezel and an Acer with a funky silver stand. I wouldnt have gotten the Samsung anyways because the bezel is almost double the width of the Asus. I ended up just getting my money back (all of it, no restocking fee).

So that brings me to now, big ass desk with one 27" on it. Frys said they are getting more of the Asus in a week... Do I just wait and get those? I really LOVE the narrow all around bezel of it, and the minimalist styling. The actual screen was very good as well, and I noticed no ghosting or dullness on the side monitors. Definitely a difference compared to a 1200p SPVA, but did not feel it was "less" of a monitor while using it. I am not going to buy these online, because I know they are stricter with their return policies for pixels (even one) and it is more of a hassle to deal with shipping. I am also hesitant with Asus now, since I bought 3 and they all had pixel probs... Am I crazy for returning a monitor for 1 pixel? Am I right to feel more comfortable buying a Dell or Samsung online?

I have $1200 to spend. I need 3 27" monitors. Thin bezel is important to me. PQ is also important to me. 1080p is okay with me, 1200p better. Thoughts?

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Sorry crappy cell phone pic below.
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Old Setup below.
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*Sorry for crappy pics in general, going to take nice ones once everything is complete! =)
 
I saw you post in the other thread...To be honest I'd probably tolerate one or two dead pixels per display on the side displays, but not the main one... But if you can just return 'em without any restocking penalty I don't see why you wouldn't wait it out and try it again once a new shipment comes in tho. Were the boxes sealed or something? You might've gotten previous returns that had been sitting there for exactly the same reason... Nice looking setup btw, that a G2 on the last pic? :D
 
soul555top said:
**Figured this would be the best place to post this. Sorry for length, and appreciate any help! I will also be researching on my own as well.**
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That is a tall order... I honestly can't think of a better solution (that meets your requirements) than the monitors you chose. I think in your shoes I would just wait and try again with Frys since they were so cool about no restocking fee.
 
Wow not bad pricing for those monitors. Wish I could justify 2 more U2711s. I will post my set up on thursday when my U2711 arrives.
 
Thanks guys for the input. Yes, it is a G2 =) and its for sale. That "old setup" pic is a bit old. Yes, the monitors I got were brand new never opened, and the boxes had no major damage. Looking back, I wish I had just kept the monitors until next week to swap em. I made the mistake of packing/driving, before knowing what they had in stock.

I havent really been able to find anything else that meets all my criteria, so I guess I am just at the mercy of Frys getting more in stock. ><
 
Anyone care to share their experiences with 3x1p or 5x1p in fps's? I currently have 3x25" L and LOVE it, but would like more height, so I was thinking of going 5x22" or 23" P. My only concern is that now, I primarily use the center monitor as my main focus, and the 2 sides in my peripheral vision. Not sure if I would be able to switch that and begin using the center 3 as my main focus or not? Anyone with past experiences? :)

Thanks!
-Erik
 
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IMO.....

3x1 (3) or
5x1 (5) or
3x2 (6)

Like you I must focus primarily on the centre main monitor whilst gaming......I also can't stand a bezel in the centre so 2x2 config is obviously not an option.

I played TDU2 across four monitors (6380x1050) the other day whilst messing around and performance was very respectable at medium to high settings on a single gtx460. The display was centred slightly off to the left in the config I ran but it was merely for test purposes. I now know when I add a fifth monitor next week the display will re-centre again on the centre display and will simply spead out further over the extra displays, and I move my chair back another foot or two. I think the resolution you use across the spanned display effects fps more than the amount of monitors. With the five I'll be using max total resolution will be 7880x1400 but I'm sure the fps will be quite poor. 6928x1050 may be more playable though.
 
Still a work in progress... want to pull the bezels off and tape them up black... but going to wait til after my move to do that and put them on a triple monitor stand I have waiting.

A lot of fun thats for sure. Dell 2007WFP's on a 5870 (dvi, dvi and minidp/sl-dvi)

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Askanison2 said:
multiple cheap 1280x1024 (or 1024x768) projectors for 3840x1024 (done with TH2Go) or at side-ways 3072x1280 (exact 24:10 ratio of anamorphic wide-screen cinema/Panavision/CinemaScope)
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Somehow missed this post, great idea!
 
here is my setup powered by a XFX 6870




pickng up a second 6870 this weekend I hope
 
You know, this is really ridiculous. I've been using a 1 over 3 display setup for many years now with some Samsung lcd's and Ergotron parts. I want to convert it to a 3 x 2 or large format 1 x 3 portrait but the only thing keeping me from doing so is the bezel sizes, and also the horizontal resolution of a portrait rig. (i.e if you take a 40 inch panel and have it in portrait, you only get 1080 horizonally instead of 1920, etc.)

When are the LCD manufactures going to finally realize that we all HATE bezels?
I just don't get it.

Bezel's should be less than a millimeter by now but they still aren't. What is taking the industry so long to give us what we want?

I know at the last trade show, there were 2 vendors that had them but they were for the commercial sector, not hardcore PC users.

Anyway, who makes the thinnest bezeled lcd at the moment?
 
On a lot of monitors you can just take the plastic case off and remount it on the same stand.. it leaves a much thinner metal bezel. You just need to work out what to do with the buttons etc.

Samsung MD230 is the only prefabbed thin-bezel LCD at monitor size. There are a few big "presentation" screens with thin bezels.

Why don't you get 1920x1200 16:10 displays? That solves the 1080 pixel width issue for you.
 
That's what I decided to do. Even tho 16:9 23" displays are significantly cheaper, I really wanted to stick with 16:10 for work and for portrait use, so I'm ordering two HP ZR24Ws soon... One refurbished to save myself $60; probably replace my existing 24" TN with another ZR eventually.
 
wagoo said:
On a lot of monitors you can just take the plastic case off and remount it on the same stand.. it leaves a much thinner metal bezel. You just need to work out what to do with the buttons etc.
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True, but that is the very opposite of sublime. Not very sleek at all and probably voids warranties.

wagoo said:
Samsung MD230 is the only prefabbed thin-bezel LCD at monitor size. There are a few big "presentation" screens with thin bezels.
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That's the one I remember from the trade show, thanks, was starting to bug me I couldn't remember the model #. Wasn't it like over $600 or something? Going to check the price on that one. That one is way overpriced I think. We need more choices. That's were the industry is lacking. That monitor needs to come down to $337, then I might bite.

wagoo said:
Why don't you get 1920x1200 16:10 displays? That solves the 1080 pixel width issue for you.
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Doesn't solve the problem. You would still have only 1200 on the horizontal when you make that one portrait. With a 1920x1080 smaller 22 inch widescreen you get 1920 horizontal across 18 inches of physical horizontal space. There are Dell's and HP's that are 2560x1600 I think that would be good for portrait, but they are about a grand each.

I've thought of having lcd's made custom, but that is a super fortune. :(

I wish there was some 36inch plus monitor that was available that had a resolution of like 2560x1920 for like $379. Then I could use my current DS100 and have 3 of them in portrait and it would be like having a hex widescreen setup without the mid bezels. That would be slick. I already have the 28 inch pole which is used in the 1 over 3.

It's like, what year will the bezel go away, or be almost unseen at reasonable costs? I think, the year 2020 is about right the way the industry is going. They need to catch up so bad. I don't get it. Why hasn't someone shown them Eyefinity and said exactly this "Hey, check out this Eyefinity card setup. If you give us some nice sized $279 super thin bezel lcd displays, they will sell like hotcakes!"

Apparently, nobody has said that yet to the person who can make it happen. Instead we get the overpriced MD230. I mean, who in their right mind is going to pay the full $3099 price for that setup?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/samsung-and-ati-team-on-syncmaster-md230-mega-displays-for-wide/

I would love that setup, but, it's way too expensive. It should be $1,899 for the 6 panel setup, not the 3. Price gougers. And...that doesn't even get rid of the center bezel which is horrible in more ways than one.

The New Egg reviews of the MD230 sums it up unfortunately:

"Cons: Price is higher than other monitors of this size. Unless you need the smallest bezel, this isn't worth the extra price compaired to others in the same class."

"Cons: 600 bucks for a 23 inch monitor that won't even do 3D? I see no justification. Maybe the "ultra-thin bezel"."

Just for the heck of it I checked todays price on the MD230. At New Egg it is listed for $569.

Now, if this sucker would come down to $279, I would purchase a few of them. I'm hoping they drop the price soon but I'm not expecting that. They really are overpriced and that is my only issue with that model.
 
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Congrats on discovering why bezels are bookend thick on the majority of monitors, it makes you pull the wonga stick out your ass for models with thin bezels. They ain't stupid, they know what you want :p
 
...I dont mind bezels between main central monitor and sides.. I haven't tried it in gaming yet to be honest (just watched a lot of vids of it), but anyway I don't think I would like any bezels in the center zone, even above and below... unless the 'overhead' monitor was just for movies and such and not integrated per se to what I was doing on the 'bottom three', especially for games. I'd rather have four to six monitors across my large 'flying-wing' / boomerang type desk if I could, or two separate monitor arrays at different nearby desks.
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..If I needed such a large array-space of screens I would have to start looking at an array of modern projectors and a media room laid out specifically for them. Some people have done similar setups already - eyefinity or surround gaming with three projectors set up perfectly to match each other's edges. This results in very large, very high rez 'screen's and no bezels. I'm not really into the idea of that at this time but I can see its appeal. Maybe you should check into it before you consider spending a ton on thin bezels. :cool:
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..Personally I'm going to re-investigate eyefinity gaming after I have this year's planned upgrades on no-interest loans all paid off. Could be sometime next year or xmas/nearing tax return end of next year -- checking on the 27" 120hz tn reviews and pricing then, I'll have to see whats out there whenever that is.
 
I hope the MD230 comes down in price this year. Would be nice to see it hit the $349 price range. Too overpriced for now and we would just be paying for r&d costs. Glad to see it on the market though as it is driving innovation in thin bezels. Maybe other companies will start to follow. This monitor needs some competition for the price to start dropping.
 
i'm thinking in 27"x3 setup asus VE278Q or Viewsonic VX2739WM, I like the asus because is a LED tecnology, PIP multiple inputs including Displayport. but i did read about the dead pixels in almost all their monitors. BTW im from Guatemala and return it is out of discusion.

Viewsonic is my second option but i did read about it and dont have some good reviews from consumers.

any advice?
 
Anyone have a triple monitor suggestion for a budget of around 750-800? Just want 3 nice fast monitors for gaming and not that much else
 
I'm hearing bad things about the viewing angles of TN panels when in portrait mode. I know they're bad, but are they bad enough to prevent a three-screen Eyefinity setup in portrait? I'm currently using one of these and am considering picking up two more when the tax return comes in. How crap will it look?
 
In landscape mode they're be bearable, I wouldn't buy new TNs for use in portrait mode though... I'll actually be re-using my existing 24" TN in my new Eyefinity setup, although as a side display and only until I'm sure I'll like Eyefinity enough. I'm getting two IPS HP ZR24s (one new, one refurbished for $360), primarily because I wanna be able to use them in portrait.
 
Headcase_Fargone said:
I'm hearing bad things about the viewing angles of TN panels when in portrait mode. I know they're bad, but are they bad enough to prevent a three-screen Eyefinity setup in portrait? I'm currently using one of these and am considering picking up two more when the tax return comes in. How crap will it look?
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Why don't you turn it vertical now and see how it looks?
 
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