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Intel needs to drop prices, add free games, free game service subs, a case of Mountain Dew, a Smoked Ham and a years supply of toothpaste.
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and a years supply of toothpaste.
Maybe two years.Make that a year's supply of lube for the reaming that are taking right now.
They should add electrolytes.
2x3700x and a 2500u. I'll buy more when they release Renoir with good Linux support
Ditto.
- Built a system with a Ryzen 5 1600x for my stepson in 2017.
- Built a system with a Ryzen 5 2400G for my Fiance last year.
- Upgraded my own system to a Threadripper 3960x this year
Yeah, I have a 1600, 1700 and 2600 system, all overclocked and fast.
Had to share, Intel is apparently not even in Amazon's top 10 at this point in time (btw I type this on my shiney new 2700X build ).
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Let that sink in for a moment - a $750 CPU is the best seller. That’s amazing.
sweet. my house has both ends of the top 10 covered. I got the 1 and the wife has the 10 ..both are damn good.Had to share, Intel is apparently not even in Amazon's top 10 at this point in time (btw I type this on my shiney new 2700X build ).
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There is going to be the typical "AMD skew" to this. You see there are thousands and thousands of Intel based devices you can buy (and actually receive). DIY (BIY - Build It Yourself) always tends to favor AMD.
I mean why buy a retail Intel CPU for $1,000 when you can buy a whole system with same CPU for $1000 (or even less)? Just a thing with Intel and something that doesn't really exist at all for AMD.
if you don't have a motherboard yet check out MSI B450 Tomahawk Max (make sure it's the Max, not the un-Max version that now sells for less) ... excellent board
I have a 3600X in my second rig and also I bought a 3700X for my brother (gave him my old computer, which was still very good).
No doubt, people are excited to get lots of cores for an affordable price.
AMD will have to make some progress on laptops though, it is very hard to find decent AMD laptops, Intel dominates there.
not sure that's a really good recommendation being that it has a weak vrm + no vrm heatsink. doesn't give you much of an upgrade path to or OC ability for newer "many"core processors.
Thanks for stating the obvious. If the data was reversed, I'm sure you'd be Maybe you would find feedback more to your liking in a Dell forum? You could then sit around talking about all your kick ass OEM Intel boxes instead.
It really hasn't been that way for a long time before Ryzen, the last time I would have considered AMD as a good bang for the buck high performance option was (pre-C2D) AM2. I don't think most DIY people have been buying $1000 Intel CPUs but many have been buying $200-$500 Intel CPUs because AMD hasn't had a good option in that range, especially for gaming which is what most people build their own system for. I mean just look at how long it took after Ryzen first launched for motherboard manufacturers to start putting some effort into their AMD boards again.
maybe you have another make/model in mind because reviews laud the beefy VRM section and here's a photo showing the VRM heatsinks on the Tomahawk Max
sorry there is a heatsink on it but still. might want to check out the Ryzen motherboard spreadsheet.
looks ok for 8 core tops. but what i was saying is there's just no upgrade path to any of the newer many-core chips that's all. and as you can see most of the b450's and even x470's aren't even recommended for 3rd gen 8 core.
That list says it's fine for a stock 3950X and even ok for a 3950X overclocked and drawing twice the current as stock provided you have good airflow, it's certainly more than enough for a 2700X with plenty of room to upgrade.
but hey, for a little over a $100 guess it aint bad for an 8 core as long as you get the max version.
exactly
X570 is a whole 'nother beast all together (as per the list you posted X570 VRM supplies twice the current of the B450).
with the B450 vs X470 vs X570 at least with MSI all the VRM use quality components so the main difference is that a B450 can't handle a Ryzen 12-core CPU but the X570 can but then ... what gamer will be using 12 cores for gaming over the next few years? We're barely entering the 6-cores for gaming plateau and in 2-3 years we'll be on the hunt for that next eye candy coated MoBo and selling what we bought today
Anyone who does more than just playing games. Which is a lot more people these days..what gamer will be using 12 cores for gaming over the next few years? We're barely entering the 6-cores for gaming plateau