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It's funny how attitudes can change so quickly. If you would have asked this question a month ago I bet most people's responses would have been, "Yes it sucks - HARD!"
Now a few decent games come out and Sony shows some of its tricks at GDC and now the most defiant answer you get to this question is, "Of course the PS3 doesn't suck but I think that the 360/Wii is better."
I guess Sony is actually doing something right! It also shows something about the kind of people who contribute to this forum, many may be fan boys (me included), but they are generally fairminded and are not afraid to give props when due. It says a lot about the caliber of the posters around here!
It's funny how attitudes can change so quickly. If you would have asked this question a month ago I bet most people's responses would have been, "Yes it sucks - HARD!"
Now a few decent games come out and Sony shows some of its tricks at GDC and now the most defiant answer you get to this question is, "Of course the PS3 doesn't suck but I think that the 360/Wii is better."
I guess Sony is actually doing something right! It also shows something about the kind of people who contribute to this forum, many may be fan boys (me included), but they are generally fairminded and are not afraid to give props when due. It says a lot about the caliber and maturity of the posters around here!
A temporary lieu of Sony's stupidity, and people seem to have magically forgotten how bad they are, and that the console has very few games while being far more expensive than the Wii or the 360. At $600, you can almost go buy an SLI 8800GTS setup, or a GTX and more RAM, to pump up your PC's gaming FAR more than the trumped-up graphics (that aren't really that good) of the PS3 can deliver. Or, you can go buy a 360 and several games, or a Wii+360, or a 360+half an LCD HDTV (there are sometimes deals for $500/32" LCD HDTV lately... I got a nice one for $475 shipped recently). I'll say it again... the PS3 is simply a horrible option right now for the money. It offers nothing more than the 360 except an anemic line-up, and has worse online for the forseeable future. The Wii is more fun, although different, than the PS3, to most people, but the 360 just does a crushing job of making the PS3 look silly. It's not that there's anything WRONG with the PS3, it just hasn't evolved like the rest of the industry has (new controls, or better online + more graphical horsepower). Instead, it just delivers more of the same, period.
...people seem to have magically forgotten how bad they are, and that the console has very few games while being far more expensive than the Wii or the 360. At $600, you can almost go buy an SLI 8800GTS setup, or a GTX and more RAM, to pump up your PC's gaming FAR more than the trumped-up graphics (that aren't really that good) of the PS3 can deliver. Or, you can go buy a 360 and several games, or a Wii+360, or a 360+half an LCD HDTV (there are sometimes deals for $500/32" LCD HDTV lately... I got a nice one for $475 shipped recently). I'll say it again... the PS3 is simply a horrible option right now for the money....
...It's not that there's anything WRONG with the PS3, it just hasn't evolved like the rest of the industry has (new controls, or better online + more graphical horsepower). Instead, it just delivers more of the same, period.
Right, so you say the 360 is better because it is cheaper and then say it is better because it has better online. Four years of XBL costs $200!!!! So, which is it!?!? You can have one or the other, NOT BOTH! Great argument!
Ok, I saw this and thought it fits well with the topic here, so I'm going to throw it on to the table for discussion.
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6167180/index.html?tag=topslot;title;1
Remember, don't shoot the messenger. ( dodges bullets )
exactly.. not gonna happen. Porn was released on laserdisc and we all know how that turned out, the porn industry does have alot of clout, but mainstream consumers have more.
after GDC it looks like Sony really has stepped up to the bar. if you can say that what they are doing with Home and Little Big World is gay then you deserve to have no console.
<removed> -Rich.
Right, so you say the 360 is better because it is cheaper and then say it is better because it has better online. Four years of XBL costs $200!!!! So, which is it!?!? You can have one or the other, NOT BOTH! Great argument!
i dont see why people think its so expensive...think of it like this ps3's free online play equals out the price say you buy a 360 and use the online for 5 years thats about $600 = ps3.........
F1 is garbage. The reviews are horrible. Tekken 5 is a cool download only port, and VF5 will be out for the 360 and is a timed exclusive only. Motorstorm is moderately fun, but has only 8 tracks and mixed reviews. Personally I like it, but it's a fairly ho-hum racer with cool visuals but not much depth.
A) Quality of online
B) Not everyone even buys the online, and if so, not neccessarily for 5 years
C) Online is not considered part of a console's price typically
Someone talking about why didn't the PS3 bring something new to the controller... uhm... Bluetooth wirless + SIXAXIS (you don't like it? I don't care) and the ability to be up to 7 players.... what exactly did X360 redevelop with their controller? Make it white?
I know this is your rant but this is a little silly.
The sixaxis isn't anything new. MS introduced it long time ago with the Sidewinder PC controllers. It sucked then. It sucks now. Maybe later a FEW games will take advantage of it. But as it stands, it's the true Gimmick of controllers and features.
And the wireless capabilities of the PS3 controller and the 360 controller is a moot point. They are both wireless and both turn on the system. At least with the 360 with any new update I don't have to plug in the controller with a cable. It's also a super comfortable controller that most people like.
Does the X360 do WiFi? My PS3 does... and having to connect the controller to the PS3 to update I see as a security feature. I live in an apartment and if anyone were to have a PS3 below or to the sides of me, they might be able to power mine on, and who knows what could happen, but having to plug the controller in means I have to be in the room with my PS3 to update it, and I like that.
Of the few games that are out that can take advantage of SIXAXIS it works really well, and thats doing more than what the X360 controller is doing. flOw (though cheap) is an excellent game that uses basically ONLY the SIXAXIS (all buttons on controller are used for boost) MotorStorm Demo (i havent been able to pick up full game yet) allows me to use the controller as a steering wheel... though not perfect, in time they might be able to get more control out of the controller.... As for super comfortable, I've been gaming with PS1 controllers for I don't know how long, so I am accustomed to the PS3 controller.
I know this is your rant but this is a little silly.
The sixaxis isn't anything new. MS introduced it long time ago with the Sidewinder PC controllers. It sucked then. It sucks now. Maybe later a FEW games will take advantage of it. But as it stands, it's the true Gimmick of controllers and features.
And the wireless capabilities of the PS3 controller and the 360 controller is a moot point. They are both wireless and both turn on the system. At least with the 360 with any new update I don't have to plug in the controller with a cable. It's also a super comfortable controller that most people like.
Sixaxis is not the gimmick. Its an added capability. If it is in fact an added gimmick feature, that only makes the Wii controller 100% gimmick. As most of its games dont use the controller properly either. Tacked on like 90% of wii game reviews complain.
Sixaxis is not the gimmick. Its an added capability. If it is in fact an added gimmick feature, that only makes the Wii controller 100% gimmick. As most of its games dont use the controller properly either. Tacked on like 90% of wii game reviews complain.
QFT. The sixaxis functions as a normal controller, whereas the wii one relies on the motion sensing. The wii controller doesn't even have enough buttons to play snes games comfortably.
um...ok
Thats why you get the classic controller for snes games.
Ohh so now just to play regular games we have to go buy an EXTRA controller?!? the humanity!
(yes i have 2 classic controllers)
Just making a point.
All of that aside netrat. I was just thinking about this. Its funny, you have a ps3/wii maybe a 360 i dont know, i also do. But isnt it interesting the different views owners of both systems can have. I think that just further puts this whole console vs console argument into another level of insanity. Its obvious that we all have our different tastes in what we enjoy and each system can cater to any of those.
Yes you have to buy new controllers. So what? You also never had one machine able to play ever classic system and play your newer games too.
Yes, like my sig says I have all 3 and love all 3. I honestly don't get the full on hatred of each seeing how they all offer great choices.
I think it's laughable to say the 360 controller sucks when the PS3 controller really isn't offering anything mindblowing while taking away features (rumble). I'll admit I did get sidetracked with the wii argument.
Sixaxis is a gimmick. If you don't have games using it or hardly using or don't work well, what's the point? Thats a gimmick. That's what people don't get when comparing Wii to sixaxis. And actually most of the games do work fine. The control and design of the wii controller started ground up.
Don't point me to reviews of ports of a game. I'm so sick of that
Zelda, Rayman, Excite truck, Dragon Ball Z, SSX Blur, Wario, Sonic, Kororinpa: Marble Mania are all getting decent reviews and all work with the controller in mind.
I hate the rumble feature, I hated the Rumble Pack for N64, and turn it off for all my games. Its more of a destraction to me than anything. Rumble feature means the controller is probably going to weight a bit more... Right now they are super duper light.... I'm just glade that they made the contoller like the PS2 instead of that silly looking boomarang looking thing.
The system just came out what do you expect? It's a secondary function so of course it's not going to be used in all the games. Wii's motion stuff is it's primary use of it's controller so you would expect more games with it (also some suck like Madden). If you want more games that support Sixaxis then guess what.....WAIT!!!!! Your all some impatient people.
No one cares about the cost of the online for $3/mo. when it provides such a great service. The PS3's is free, but who knows if it's going to be any good. Also, I'm quite sure they won't be providing an XBL-level experience for free, knowing Sony. Online is an add-on feature, not a part of the unit's cost. Truth stings, I guess , I don't know why you're so uptight about which console is "better". I'm just stating my opinion, but you cannot seem to refrain from flaming with hyperbole consistently. Meh .
GoldenTiger said:A temporary lieu of Sony's stupidity, and people seem to have magically forgotten how bad they are, and that the console has very few games while being far more expensive than the Wii or the 360. At $600, you can almost go buy an SLI 8800GTS setup, or a GTX and more RAM, to pump up your PC's gaming FAR more than the trumped-up graphics (that aren't really that good) of the PS3 can deliver. Or, you can go buy a 360 and several games, or a Wii+360, or a 360+half an LCD HDTV (there are sometimes deals for $500/32" LCD HDTV lately... I got a nice one for $475 shipped recently). I'll say it again... the PS3 is simply a horrible option right now for the money. It offers nothing more than the 360 except an anemic line-up, and has worse online for the forseeable future. The Wii is more fun, although different, than the PS3, to most people, but the 360 just does a crushing job of making the PS3 look silly. It's not that there's anything WRONG with the PS3, it just hasn't evolved like the rest of the industry has (new controls, or better online + more graphical horsepower). Instead, it just delivers more of the same, period.
Damn dude, you are a HYPOCRITE!!!!! You say " I don't know why you're so uptight about which console is "better". I'm just stating my opinion, but you cannot seem to refrain from flaming with hyperbole consistently. Meh ."
And yet I was responding to this post from you:
Oh yeah, no flaming or hyperbole in that post! (except maybe one or two bits in bold ) I never even said that the PS3 was "better" I simply stated that it was incorrect to say that the 360 was cheaper AND had better online because then you are not factoring the cost of online. You have just proved to me that you are probably a 12 year old. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You're the one bringing the hyperbole and flaming to this thread! I guess I made my comment that people on this forum were all classy and mature too soon. You are doing a great job proving to everyone that your opinion is worthless.
I don't understand how people can say XBL is SOOO much better than PS3 free online. PS3 online provides me with a buddy list, players met, message inbox/outbox, games that support MP I've had no problems with.... I mean what exactly makes XBL SOOO much better in terms of quality?
and having to connect the controller to the PS3 to update I see as a security feature. I live in an apartment and if anyone were to have a PS3 below or to the sides of me, they might be able to power mine on, and who knows what could happen, but having to plug the controller in means I have to be in the room with my PS3 to update it, and I like that..
I hate the rumble feature, I hated the Rumble Pack for N64, and turn it off for all my games. Its more of a destraction to me than anything. Rumble feature means the controller is probably going to weight a bit more... Right now they are super duper light.... I'm just glade that they made the contoller like the PS2 instead of that silly looking boomarang looking thing.
This made me laugh out loud. . . . Worried someone might aim their controller nefariously through the wall to....what....update your console? omg no!