Dead Island (Perspectives)

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Perspectives are strange and the mind a complicated thing, but there are certain things that are just factual as well, so as a mix of both I'll say this: Dead Island is nowhere near as bad as what people claim, period.

I've been gaming since I was a kid (I'm 38 now) in all genres, and heavily in FPS and RPGs for most of my adult life. I'm a self-proclaimed graphics whore and I've more than a firm grasp on mechanics, how a game feels and what makes a good game.

No, I'm not saying Dead Island is the lord of all games, but the fucking thing is fun, the mechanics are pretty damn streamlined for PC in terms of inventory and the skill tree system, it looks beautiful, and both combat mechanics and movement feel good, are pretty damn tight.

It wasn't just all the bugs that people have complained about, unless as usual, someone's negative perspectives on one aspect of a game, brings out the cyclops in them and they look at the entirety of something jaded.

It's the best damn zombie game I've played in recent years, and the most realistic.

L4D is not realistic nor fantastic, though it is fun. DayZ is nowhere near realistic in terms of zombie appearance or mechanics, just in every other way. WarZ... ha ha, we'll leave that alone.

Dead Island's zombies look excellent, the animations and movement are great (when you're actually in-game, you see how realistic the body movement actually is), very realistic, and the breaking-down of flesh, limbs, sinew, bone, dismemberment and hit detection etc are all excellent. The zombies themselves look excellent, and their different movement and attacks etc give it variation.

I only have two gripes: vsync is not working no matter what I try (even though they implemented it in the PC version now; also altered the files but it's not working, so I'm getting a little annoying tearing) and there is no nighttime, though I know there are times when it gets darker out in the cities later on in the game.

Yet, what's odd, is that the atmosphere is still there, it's still pretty solid, lonely, a little creepy, despite it always being daytime thus far. Also, surprisingly, the voice acting is damn decent. Another thing I didn't expect.

How they would not implement nighttime in this is just brainless on their part, but as for the game as a whole, I'd actually have to endorse it, no shit, and I never thought I'd say that, given I've avoided it like the plague since it was horrendously ported to PC.

So, there are factual things regarding the game, such as mentioned above, that actually make it great. It's becoming seriously addictive.

As for the personal perspective part, I'm finding it less tedious to do the countless fetch quests in Dead Island, compared to running around the island in Far Cry 3, which felt so god damned boring to me I couldn't even finish the game. Far Cry 3 looks gorgeous, though honestly only a couple of notches above Dead Island with the game maxed. But, it just felt empty and lifeless, even despite the wildlife running around, which didn't really make it feel more alive.

The lack of enemy AI in FC3, in terms of human enemies, made the entire world feel empty. So, while seeing some fire spread over a hundred yards is pretty, and the environment beautiful, just capturing radio towers and hunting relics, with occasionally running into some bandits along the way, bored the shit out of me, and I love open-world games, including the first Far Cry, and some aspects of the second.

I can honestly say that Dead Island is far more entertaining (especially the physics and deformations of bodies), a lot more entertainment value in general, including with the combat, and thus far it's been a damn blast.

Who'd have thunk it, eh?

Well, if anyone has gone with the negative "hype" over the game, I'd actually suggest you reconsider. I never thought I'd be saying this about Dead Island, but this is how you make a zombie game... minus the stupid absence of any day/night cycle, which is just stupid.

As for being swarmed by zombies, it's far more tense and feels like you're actually in danger, and you've got to have quick reactions. The combat is actually tight, and I'm seriously shocked. I've not felt really threatened in any zombie game. Yet, at the same time, if you're quick, use a kick here, followed by a swing there, go for an arm or a limb instead of just the head for the larger zombies that punch you (i.e. tactics) it's damn fun. It's also pretty damn visceral... the chopping, the bludgeoning, the gore...

I'm a little shocked at the rant here, but that's because I'm shocked by the game. It's actually pretty damn good!

Well, there's a different perspective for the seemingly countless many (myself included, to that I admit) who thought the game was just boring, annoying shit. It's actually quite the opposite.

Everyone is different, though, so I don't expect anyone who's played it and hated it to change their mind. Just like I don't expect I'll ever be returning to FC3, which bored me rather quickly, and I wasn't the only one, so everyone's different, of course. But, there's my take thus far, for anyone who's not really tried it and only been hit with the negative hype.
 
Ok well

I personally thought

it was a pretty f

ucking shitty game. Hope

this helps.
 
I got it for $5 during Christmas and have 17 hours in it, playing with a friend has made it quite fun. I am not a fan of the console elements, shitty FOV, inventory that is clearly meant for a controller, dead island helper fixed most of the issues though.

I think for $5 it is worth playing as long as you get the dead island helper.
 
dead island is a shitty eastern european game that despite itself is one of the best games of the year. dead island is also one of the best coop games of the year.

awesome game.
 
dead island is a shitty eastern european game that despite itself is one of the best games of the year. dead island is also one of the best coop games of the year.

awesome game.

Best said. Dead Island is almost MST3K good in that it's awesome wrapped around a shitty game. They made a really great game poorly. I played long after the bugs were cleaned up. As a PC gamer thats status quo. I know buggy games aren't cool anymore but hell half the PC games I played growing up were buggy as hell. That stuff doesn't bother me.

What killed me about Dead Island is that it has possibly the worst story and characters of any game I've played in years.

Despite itself Dead Island is creative with the zombies, has excellent artwork, tons to explore and the combat/coop is a 8/10 at worst 10/10 at best. I would recommend it to most anybody who likes zombies and rabid fun co-op.
 
Best said. Dead Island is almost MST3K good in that it's awesome wrapped around a shitty game. They made a really great game poorly. I played long after the bugs were cleaned up. As a PC gamer thats status quo. I know buggy games aren't cool anymore but hell half the PC games I played growing up were buggy as hell. That stuff doesn't bother me.

What killed me about Dead Island is that it has possibly the worst story and characters of any game I've played in years.

Despite itself Dead Island is creative with the zombies, has excellent artwork, tons to explore and the combat/coop is a 8/10 at worst 10/10 at best. I would recommend it to most anybody who likes zombies and rabid fun co-op.

Actually the characters were awesome. They were each an asshole in their own special way.
 
ill give props to the thread creator for the informative and thoughtout post


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Ok well

I personally thought

it was a pretty f

ucking shitty game. Hope

this helps.

Crazy question, but why the hell are you breaking off words like that.

I didn't mind Dead Island, but the bugs were pretty bad at release. Ended up returning it back to Steam with a few buddies.
 
Never played it, but now I'm kinda interested. I think I will pick it up if it's cheap enough.
 
Another person here that really likes this game. I like the loot system, mods, maps, graphics, and dismemberment.

Not a fan of some of the missions and the driving. Overall a game worth getting if it 10 bucks or less :)
 
Thanks for the review. I never bit because of rants I had seen here and elsewhere on how it was poorly implemented for PC.

My brother had it on PS3 and had a blast playing, although he did run into a few issues.

If Steam has it for cheap I will definitely snatch it up and try it out now.
 
I bought it on release for ~$35 or so. Wasn't worth that, but it's worth $10 or whatever it's going for these days.

It had a lot of problems on release, but it's pretty fun overall.
 
MavericK96 said:
I bought it on release for ~$35 or so. Wasn't worth that, but it's worth $10 or whatever it's going for these days.

It had a lot of problems on release, but it's pretty fun overall.


speaking of which, has the bug issue been improved since launch?



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Just know that for PC you might need to disable hot keys or sticky keys or something otherwise the game will have a stutter when you strage or move the mouse. It's annoying to do but if you get the Dead Island Helper app and just run that and configure it then it'll automatically disable and enable the feature whenever you play/quit the game.

I don't think the stutter is a problem if you use a gamepad.
 
This game is more RPG oriented than L4D correct?

Thinking of picking up one of these for some co-op LAN fun with the guy on the couch.
 
This game is more RPG oriented than L4D correct?

Thinking of picking up one of these for some co-op LAN fun with the guy on the couch.

What guy on the couch? You have a guy that lives on your couch? Or he came with the couch?
 
This game is more RPG oriented than L4D correct?

Thinking of picking up one of these for some co-op LAN fun with the guy on the couch.

there are skill trees which has passive skills, upgrades to skills, and activated skills, etc.. Basically the white guy specializes throwing, the black guy in blunt type weapons, asian girl in melee blades, and aussy girl in guns. But they don't have to use those, infact it's not always best to use your character's 'preferred' weapon. There are many situations where you take what comes. (you might want an increased weapon durability mod). Each type of player character has their own 3 hierarchies of skills which have some overlapping going on but not completely. Their adrenaline mode is different for each person too. Pretty fun, and yeah I don't remember it falling into the repetitive monotony trap like a lot of other "RPGs" will do.
 
I had fun with Dead Island. My major issues with the game were the bugs during launch week and the fact that the game gets progressively more linear and less interesting as you advance the plot. Also, they could've made the guns more powerful.

You do get a lot of game for your money though, your looking at 25-50 hrs to complete the game.
 
Got it for the sale price with 2 buddies. Played some last night. I bought it on release a while back, but got it refunded promptly because everyone I knew quit and it was stale as shit playing alone.

It's a ton of fun with other people. Unless you have a friend who takes the car in the first mission and tries to off-road with it down the stairs, and gets it stuck. :mad:
 
I was on the fence when it was just recently $6 on steam.... I'll grab next sale.
 
I loved this game. I like everyone else saw the trailer and it looked amazing then the release and the tragedy that was. I got it...I guess last Christmas sale for $? and it was worth every penny of that question mark.

The setting was great, the difficulty was pretty good, the zombie variety was nice and the sounds were good. The zombie noises were great. I wish they played up some more of the quest lines. The only zone I didn't like was the jungle. I got out of there as fast as I could. Something about it was just...terrible for me. I thought the beach zone was fucking phenomenal. I was a little disappointing the rest of the game wasn't as awesome as that area but the change in zones ramped up the difficulty. The city with its narrow passages was much more challenging with having to strategize your moves and your fights. I loved it. I died quite a few times in the city but that was pretty much it. I made it to the prison before my hard drive crashed and got distracted with other games so I never got to finish it :(

My biggest complaint is the weapon deterioration. It's so fast it's comical. And when you finally get the best blade mod in the game it changed every weapon you modded into the same model.
 
I kind of forgotten about this game after launched due to the bugs people were talking about at launch.

Anyway now I've gotten myself a copy from Steam sales. Will give it a go when I feel like it.
 
I got it cheap from Steam a few months ago and I like it.
I've only gotten through the beach area where you radio everyone to meet you.
I had a couple of false starts due to my unfamiliarity with the rpg equipment screen but now I am moving forward.
I think I paid $7.00 or so for it and it's worth it everytime I smash some weirdo's head in with a stick.
 
My biggest complaint is the weapon deterioration. It's so fast it's comical. And when you finally get the best blade mod in the game it changed every weapon you modded into the same model.

Ahah, I agree with the weapon deterioration. A METAL PIPE is bent to the point of it being impossible to fix, after just a few bashes into a zombie's body. It's pretty ridiculous.


Also, speaking of bugs, I saw a few posts about it, but no real solution. When you're using a VOIP software and playing the game, the characters all echo when they talk. I'm getting it, but my friends aren't. It's very annoying, and very odd...
 
There is a tweak you can make in one of the game files to reduce deterioration, just turn off the VAC protection in the game before doing so.
 
Not a bad game not a great game, though it had one of the best trailers i have seen in years
 
I just got this for $6.50 or whatever it was in the Steam sale and I am not feeling it.

I see the potential, but there are so many little things that detract from enjoying it. Why does my character move like I am driving a go cart? What sort of crazy person designed the inventory and skill UIs? Why is nothing explained (I'm picking skill points for "fury mode" while having no idea what that is)? Shit breaks way too fast. The game has insane screen tearing, even with vsync on.

The game should be awesome, but it just isn't.
 
I just got this for $6.50 or whatever it was in the Steam sale and I am not feeling it.

I see the potential, but there are so many little things that detract from enjoying it. Why does my character move like I am driving a go cart? What sort of crazy person designed the inventory and skill UIs? Why is nothing explained (I'm picking skill points for "fury mode" while having no idea what that is)? Shit breaks way too fast. The game has insane screen tearing, even with vsync on.

The game should be awesome, but it just isn't.

If you look past all the crazy shit they decided to throw into the game (like making the mouse sensitivity slider affect not only the game itself, but the menu system), it's pretty great to play with others. If you're playing it alone, it's a snoozefest, and pure shit in my honest opinion.

One thing that does really bug me other than the mouse sensitivity, is the fact that when you gear up to run, it's an entire ordeal. I realize it's somewhat going for a realistic path, where it tries to imitate someone running, but it just feels woozy and annoying. Other than that though, the game is awesome fun with a few other people you usually game with. Lots of opportunities for mayhem.
 
speaking of which, has the bug issue been improved since launch?

"The bug issue"...can you be more specific?

If you are asking if there are less bugs than there were at launch, then yes. I'm not sure if they actually fixed everything, though.
 
The fuck did I just read?????

I bought DI when it was on sale like 2 days ago. Buddy and I are having some great fun :)

It does piss me off how fast melee weapons degrade though. Kinda makes having to go back to the base to repair a chore, especially if you're far out without a fast travel =/
 
Crap, I need this. I think this'll be the first thing I do when I get on steam tonight. The FoV was annoying me to no end. What's it at default, anyone know?

I don't remember what the default was, been a while since I played. I game at 1920x1080 and an fov of 82.5 seemed to be the sweet spot.
 
I don't remember what the default was, been a while since I played. I game at 1920x1080 and an fov of 82.5 seemed to be the sweet spot.

82.5 you say? I'll try that. Can't be any worse than what it is now...a.k.a. terrible.
 
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