DC Vault

[Jathanis]

I'm running a 3.4 GHz P4 with Hyperthreading turned on, and I can crunch 2 SHA-1 WUs every 30 minutes - they run rather smoothly, only take 6-10 MB of memory each, and are worth 10 pernts each, regardless of the pernts claimed on upload (most of my claims are for 3-4, so it goes rather quickly). In addition, these projects only have a quorum of 1, so the results get validated very quickly on upload, mostly within 10-15 minutes, tops. No waiting days for someone with a slower computer to finish that last WU in your quorum of 3 to validate results...

So if Crypto is where you want to throw some CPU power, SHA-1 would be a great choice! A dedicated 3GHz+ dual core Intel could probably be close to a 1000 ppd machine on this project...

 

[Jathanis]

I would say definitely. As metallicafan said, they're nice small units, but still have a nice 10 day deadline. Primegrid units are about the same except a 7 day deadline.

Just as a warning, DON'T go into the Primegrid settings and enable the Woodall Prime Search - it appears to be worth several hundred pernts per WU, but each work unit takes days to finish - my current one is only at 50% after 17+ hours of run time on my P4, and the one that's running on my 1.4 Pentium M is MUCH worse... Last time I'll cruch those for a while!

 

[alan2308]

Just as a warning, DON'T go into the Primegrid settings and enable the Woodall Prime Search - it appears to be worth several hundred pernts per WU, but each work unit takes days to finish - my current one is only at 50% after 17+ hours of run time on my P4, and the one that's running on my 1.4 Pentium M is MUCH worse... Last time I'll cruch those for a while!

Thanks for the heads up. I switch between projects a lot, so smaller units are preferred.

 

[Jathanis]

To add to my previous observations, here's another conclusion I've come up with - use older, slower CPUs on the Docking WUs - they get scored by the total time spent, so the same WU is worth more on an older CPU... For example, since the WUs appear to be valued at about 350 seconds per credit, if a fast CPU cranked out the WU in 5000 seconds, it would be awarded about 14 pernts, but the same WU on a slow CPU taking 10,000 seconds would be awarded 28 pernts for the same unit. Granted, it takes longer, but the result seems to be old and new CPUs getting the same ppd. I'm planning on testing this theory tonight when I get home by running similar WUs on multiple computers at speeds from 1.4 to 3.2, and will report back then. But in essence, I'm pretty sure that this project (and I assume there's others like it) don't award fast CPUs or penalize slow ones. This is the kind of attack plan we can start working on - I'll go "troll" the forums of some of the others, and see what info I can "borrow" for us to use as a foundation!

 

[alan2308]

So my old i486, Pentium MMX, and Cyrix MII should be useful running Docking@Home then? Too bad I tossed out that Pentium II a while back.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Another project that goes by time only is EulerNet

 

[Kendrak]

So my old i486, Pentium MMX, and Cyrix MII should be useful running Docking@Home then? Too bad I tossed out that Pentium II a while back.

I have a 600mhz celeron lappy sitting here on the desk

It's waiting for a memory upgrade. Currently has 32 MB of RAM

There is a 128mb stick on it's way. How the hell did we run anything on this equipment?

 

[alan2308]

I have a 600mhz celeron lappy sitting here on the desk

It's waiting for a memory upgrade. Currently has 32 MB of RAM

There is a 128mb stick on it's way. How the hell did we run anything on this equipment?

Code monkeys actually thought about resource utilization back then. When the glass keeps growing, you worry a lot less about how much water you keep pouring in.

Look away from Redmond for a second in comparison. The PS3 has a whopping 256MB of RAM in it and yet I can still run Ubuntu or Fedora on it.


Far be it from me to be on topic but another update, another 1500+ point jump. Our goal for hitting #50 was what, Valentines day? I figure that with about 2000 points each day (our overnight updates are less, some projects don't update overnight) we'll be around #44, assuming that no other teams make serious changes. Think we can do 40?

 

[metallicafan]

Well I think that its safe to say that our ranking in RC5-72 will be going up. In one day of processing I have done 13X the work that our team did back in 2003. I guess technology has come a long way in the past 6 years!

It might not show up on the Vault for a day or two though. I still need to officially "join" the team.

 

[alan2308]

I tried to get going on Wieferich@Home earlier today, but I couldn't register. You can't do anything until you register. On this one, there's so few teams, I could actually scroll down the list and see we definitely don't have a team.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Well I think that its safe to say that our ranking in RC5-72 will be going up. In one day of processing I have done 13X the work that our team did back in 2003. I guess technology has come a long way in the past 6 years!

It might not show up on the Vault for a day or two though. I still need to officially "join" the team.

I also have been doing work for RC5-72 today and tonight, I hope it will show up in the morning so I can join our team.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

I tried to get going on Wieferich@Home earlier today, but I couldn't register. You can't do anything until you register. On this one, there's so few teams, I could actually scroll down the list and see we definitely don't have a team.

Wieferich@Home now has a [H]ard|OCP team, there should be points there tomorrow.
You need to download the client to register.

 

[metallicafan]

I also have been doing work for RC5-72 today and tonight, I hope it will show up in the morning so I can join our team.

Sweet - I think the stats update every evening (7pm EST)? I dont think that I will get around to joining the Hard team until tomorrow sometime. Have you been using the GPU client? What kind of card?

I used a 8800GS and it seemed to do pretty well. I started out at stock speeds and tonight I upped the SPs by about 100MHz. See if I see a little boost for tomorrow. If we get 4 or 5 GPUs going we could move up in this project REALLY fast. I have an ATI card in my main rig but i may have to swap it out for another 8800GTS i have laying around here.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

i swear i dont effin get it.. every god .... project i try that supports cuda refuses to friggin use my gfx card.. its starting to piss me off..

 

[alan2308]

Wieferich@Home now has a [H]ard|OCP team, there should be points there tomorrow.
You need to download the client to register.

I downloaded and installed the SMP client, filled out the registration page, but it gives an error every time I hit Register.

Edit: And I'm still getting it. "Problem with recieved registration data. Please try registration later."

i swear i dont effin get it.. every god .... project i try that supports cuda refuses to friggin use my gfx card.. its starting to piss me off..

Right now I believe its only SETI and GPUGRID that support CUDA with Einsten and I believe its Leiden Classical that have announced that support is coming. And from what I saw, SETI's GPU work is very sporadic. I grabbed a few units right off the bat, and then didn't see any more for the rest of the time I was on SETI.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Sweet - I think the stats update every evening (7pm EST)? I dont think that I will get around to joining the Hard team until tomorrow sometime. Have you been using the GPU client? What kind of card?

I used a 8800GS and it seemed to do pretty well. I started out at stock speeds and tonight I upped the SPs by about 100MHz. See if I see a little boost for tomorrow. If we get 4 or 5 GPUs going we could move up in this project REALLY fast. I have an ATI card in my main rig but i may have to swap it out for another 8800GTS i have laying around here.

I use the GPU Client RC5-72 2.9102.508b2 beta on a 8800 GTS 512mb (G92) 765/1944/2070 on Vista64 with 181.00 drivers, and works great.
I got my points updated this morning and joined our HardOCP team so next time it updates I should be there.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Right now I believe its only SETI and GPUGRID that support CUDA with Einsten and I believe its Leiden Classical that have announced that support is coming. And from what I saw, SETI's GPU work is very sporadic. I grabbed a few units right off the bat, and then didn't see any more for the rest of the time I was on SETI.

Thats weird because I get 400 Seti Cuda units each day.
Be sure to turn off AstroPulse in your Seti account preferences if you want to only run the Classic units that support Cuda.

 

[Wheresatom]

I am not sure if I should just make a new thread for this, but I figured I would just tag on to the end of this thread real quick. My SWIMBO has moved in with me and agreed to have some form of DC on her computer as long as it didn't:

1. Take me much time for upkeep.
2. Slow down her computer while she is trying to use it.
3. Open a doorway for the government to watch everything she does on her computer.

So, with that in mind, I am thinking a BOINC compatible project might be best, and I can set it to only compute when she is not using the computer. What projects do we need help with in the DC vault that fit these criteria? Preferably I think it would be best to keep it towards medical research too. That type of thing is a bit closer to her heart.

 

[metallicafan]

i swear i dont effin get it.. every god .... project i try that supports cuda refuses to friggin use my gfx card.. its starting to piss me off..

What GPU client are you trying to run? What gfx card do you have? Maybe we can help you out.

 

[metallicafan]

I am not sure if I should just make a new thread for this, but I figured I would just tag on to the end of this thread real quick. My SWIMBO has moved in with me and agreed to have some form of DC on her computer as long as it didn't:

1. Take me much time for upkeep.
2. Slow down her computer while she is trying to use it.
3. Open a doorway for the government to watch everything she does on her computer.

So, with that in mind, I am thinking a BOINC compatible project might be best, and I can set it to only compute when she is not using the computer. What projects do we need help with in the DC vault that fit these criteria? Preferably I think it would be best to keep it towards medical research too. That type of thing is a bit closer to her heart.

In all honesty I would probably recommend WCG. It a good stable project with some very good projects (some of which are medical research). It would be low maintenance, you could show her the website and let her pick the projects she wants to run. And unlike some of the other smaller projects you can be sure this one will never run out of work.

 

[Kendrak]

I am not sure if I should just make a new thread for this, but I figured I would just tag on to the end of this thread real quick. My SWIMBO has moved in with me and agreed to have some form of DC on her computer as long as it didn't:

1. Take me much time for upkeep.
2. Slow down her computer while she is trying to use it.
3. Open a doorway for the government to watch everything she does on her computer.

So, with that in mind, I am thinking a BOINC compatible project might be best, and I can set it to only compute when she is not using the computer. What projects do we need help with in the DC vault that fit these criteria? Preferably I think it would be best to keep it towards medical research too. That type of thing is a bit closer to her heart.

The government (and ceiling cat) are always watching!

 

[alan2308]

I am not sure if I should just make a new thread for this, but I figured I would just tag on to the end of this thread real quick. My SWIMBO has moved in with me and agreed to have some form of DC on her computer as long as it didn't:

1. Take me much time for upkeep.
2. Slow down her computer while she is trying to use it.
3. Open a doorway for the government to watch everything she does on her computer.

So, with that in mind, I am thinking a BOINC compatible project might be best, and I can set it to only compute when she is not using the computer. What projects do we need help with in the DC vault that fit these criteria? Preferably I think it would be best to keep it towards medical research too. That type of thing is a bit closer to her heart.

My projects list thread has everywhere that we are as a team, and links to more information about the projects in the second post. I would start with a look over what the projects are first.

From a standpoint of purely helping our DC-Vault position, the only two projects that you cannot make a significant difference is F@H (where we have the full 10,000 points) and SETI (where we have 9921 points and need to jump over 400 places for the last 79 points).

One last thing to consider is that there are some projects that I can't remember the last time I've seen a work unit (Proteins@Home, The Lattice Project), there are some that will put new work onto the server but it only lasts for a couple weeks (SIMAP), and malariacontrol.net requires an invite to participate, and none of us have figured out how to get one yet.

Even F@H and WCG have occasional work hiccups, so I suggest attaching to at least 2 projects to insure that you will always have work without having to adjust settings every time you go idle. Go to the site of the project(s) that you care less about and set the resource share to something like 10 or 20 so that when you do have work from all the projects that you're attached to, your preferred project gets the majority of CPU time.

And Kendrak is right, ceiling cat is always on the job.

 

[alan2308]

One thing I've noticed thats a bit humorous, is that the SHA-1 Collision member listing is basically a who's who of the forum active DC Commandos. Everyone has done at least a little SHA-1.

So who is JT Croteau? Someone we know, or another "Stealth Commando?" I also see jim03, stargazer7, Mike Shedd, Rish, tlman, Mario, DarkCow and krische on GPUGRID that I dont know. Stop in and say hi guys!

 

[Tobit]

So who is JT Croteau?

That would be me and my little P4. It told me to use my real name and not a nickname, oh well.

 

[alan2308]

That would be me and my little P4. It told me to use my real name and not a nickname, oh well.

Well then, welcome aboard commando #8! And you can change that on your account page.

 

[alan2308]

The [H]orde is up to #81. Great work everyone, keep it up!

 

[sirmonkey1985]

it will keep moving up.. i have both my dual cores working on SH1 as well.. estimating about 100 projects a day.. havent been keeping track.. my 6400+ has already finished 60+ in less then 24 hours.. i got 22 of them waiting to report as well..

 

[Razor_FX_II]

it will keep moving up.. i have both my dual cores working on SH1 as well.. estimating about 100 projects a day.. havent been keeping track.. my 6400+ has already finished 60+ in less then 24 hours.. i got 22 of them waiting to report as well..

Wow, nice job!

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Watch the move in the next DC-Vault update under the RC5-72 project!

 

[alan2308]

Up 711 places with page after page of inactive teams still ahead. Nice work!

 

[Razor_FX_II]

I think I'll crank some RC5-72 out tonight on some Cuda devices.
Rough estimate about 1k units/hour. Let it run overnight.

Edit: Put in 9301 blocks overnight

 

[alan2308]

I downloaded and installed the SMP client, filled out the registration page, but it gives an error every time I hit Register.

And I'm still getting it. "Problem with received registration data. Please try registration later."

Its weird, I'm still getting this error. I downloaded and tried the standard client and the SMP client, same thing with both. So I guess I'll just play with something else for now. That's the beauty of being ranked low, there's always somewhere else you can turn your attention and help.

 

[Wheresatom]

That does sound weird. I have completed a few units of SHA-1, Shinhenge, and Cosmology(almost finished at least). I should be showing up on those pages soon then.

WCG still wont kick in on gridrepublic. Because of that I have a unit sitting at 94% complete now. Oh well.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Its weird, I'm still getting this error. I downloaded and tried the standard client and the SMP client, same thing with both. So I guess I'll just play with something else for now. That's the beauty of being ranked low, there's always somewhere else you can turn your attention and help.

Could it be firewall related?
I get a very similar error when I try to register Dimes.
Oh well I have plenty to do elsewhere.

 

[metallicafan]

I think I'll crank some RC5-72 out tonight on some Cuda devices.
Rough estimate about 1k units/hour. Let it run overnight.

Edit: Put in 9301 blocks overnight

Nice! I should be "joining" the team tonight when the update goes I think. I should be adding another 12K blocks or so. How many GPUs were you using to get 9300 blocks overnight? Just wondering how this scales. I might try to start up a couple more GPUs this weekend.

 

[metallicafan]

That does sound weird. I have completed a few units of SHA-1, Shinhenge, and Cosmology(almost finished at least). I should be showing up on those pages soon then.

WCG still wont kick in on gridrepublic. Because of that I have a unit sitting at 94% complete now. Oh well.

Hey thanks for the help Wheresatom! Welcome aboard!

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Nice! I should be "joining" the team tonight when the update goes I think. I should be adding another 12K blocks or so. How many GPUs were you using to get 9300 blocks overnight? Just wondering how this scales. I might try to start up a couple more GPUs this weekend.

I ran these systems for about 6 hours and each were doing cpu projects at the same time.
1st system - 8800 GTS 640mb (G80) and 9600GT 512mb (G94) did 2006 blocks combined
2nd system - 8800 GTS 512mb (G92) did 2095 blocks
3rd system - 2x GTX 260 did 5200 blocks

 

[metallicafan]

I ran these systems for about 6 hours and each were doing cpu projects at the same time.
1st system - 8800 GTS 640mb (G80) and 9600GT 512mb (G94) did 2006 blocks combined
2nd system - 8800 GTS 512mb (G92) did 2095 blocks
3rd system - 2x GTX 260 did 5200 blocks

Sweet, How do you tell how many blocks each client has done? I installed it a couple days ago but I've been so busy I havent had time to mess with it much.

 

[Razor_FX_II]

Sweet, How do you tell how many blocks each client has done? I installed it a couple days ago but I've been so busy I havent had time to mess with it much.

Bring the console up and under one of the menu items (3rd from the left I think) is a choice to view throughput.
Select that and it will change from the console view to a running graph and details that shows your buffers, average speed, time, errors and how many blocks you have done.

 

[alan2308]

Could it be firewall related?
I get a very similar error when I try to register Dimes.
Oh well I have plenty to do elsewhere.

Damn, I thought I had the firewall off for something else. Too late now though, I already uninstalled it.