Database Of U.S. Internet Pirates Will Be Decentralized

Shotglass01 said:
This is going to be an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. I just can't wait till the ISP's start getting kickback from their customers. This has such awesome fail all over it.

The ISP's will incur additional costs since they have to monitor and notify. They'll get pressure from the RIAA/MPAA about enforcement, they'll get kickback pressure from customers.

Yea, this is going to fly.
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not likely, backlash, remember, according to ISP's, the %5 of users are using %95 of the bandwidth, i would venture to guess well over.... %80+ of an ISP's user base doesn't even know what a torrent is or how to get one or download one.

Remember, we here are a few compared to the masses

Seraphical said:
How is this even a problem? There are totally legitimate sources to download Win7 (and possibly Vista) ISO's from... for free. If the issue is WindowsXP then there are much larger issues at hand...
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ya www.microsoft.com / technet the only legit place, there are no others.
 
MrGuvernment said:
If someone hacks into your secured wireless network - maybe, but if your left your network wide open with no effort to secure it, again, your fault
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Disagree on this. I can leave my car doors open and have my car stolen. The cops will still try to catch the thief. It does not mean I am smart, it just means, to me, that open wireless networks are no invitation to use them.

MrGuvernment said:
not likely, backlash, remember, according to ISP's, the %5 of users are using %95 of the bandwidth, i would venture to guess well over.... %80+ of an ISP's user base doesn't even know what a torrent is or how to get one or download one.
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I'm counting on it. My expectation is that they'll be sending out millions of notices to people who have no idea what is going on. It really won't matter much if they are or are not torrenting. I believe they won't discriminate much with the notices. They may just see bit traffic and send one. A) Mom and dad get the notice since the kid is doing it, B) they are doing it, call and bitch that they aren't, C) unsecured networks being used for bit traffic, D) infected computers being used. It's going to upset a lot of folks.
 
wizdum said:
I assume all these people were given due process of law and allowed to face their accusers?
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Oh yeah, it's right there in the Fifth Amendment. "No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, property, or Internet connection speed, without due process of law."
 
oh well,ill be listed somewhere else. i got 3 strikes with mediacom in 6 years and only received one notice. they didn't even have the heart to tell me my internet was going to be shut off. funny they still wanted to charge me for it even after they killed it.

so far so good with dsl, slower but its been more reliable.
 
MrGuvernment said:
not likely, backlash, remember, according to ISP's, the %5 of users are using %95 of the bandwidth, i would venture to guess well over.... %80+ of an ISP's user base doesn't even know what a torrent is or how to get one or download one.

Remember, we here are a few compared to the masses



ya www.microsoft.com / technet the only legit place, there are no others.
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That's something i've been wondering. How can using 100% of your alloted bandwidth be depriving others? You got a 1mbps package, you make the most out of it, and they cap you. You cannot get 2mbps out of a 1mbps connection. Can i sue for false advertisement?
 
Shotglass01 said:
Disagree on this. I can leave my car doors open and have my car stolen. The cops will still try to catch the thief. It does not mean I am smart, it just means, to me, that open wireless networks are no invitation to use them.
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If a car was used in a bank robbery, first thing cops would do is check the owner. It may not necessarily mean the owner was the robber, but his input will lead to the actual perpetrators.
 
Azhar said:
As for crapware, Start Menu > Control Panel > Programs and Features > Uninstall crapware
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There is a much quicker method to get to "uninstall crapware". I didn't even notice it myself until about 6 months ago.

Open computer>top menu "uninstall or change a program" >ta!da! :)
 
The constitution will be unconstitutional in the future the way it looks now. Very grim.
 
Gnasher said:
There is a much quicker method to get to "uninstall crapware". I didn't even notice it myself until about 6 months ago.

Open computer>top menu "uninstall or change a program" >ta!da! :)
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I never noticed that before /facepalm
 
If you noticed the part about this being a distributed database, this is not on accident, this is pushed by the Government. Legally the Government cannot have one large database, as that would be considered a violation of privacy.

So they used the FBI to push all the ISP's and other groups to make their own databases, that the FBI can access. Just like they did with private data of US citizens for the War on Terror.

Laws now bypassed.

This is how the current US Government operates. They cannot pass the necessary Amendments to the Constitution to legally partake in their violations of privacy and other Civil rights and liberties, so they reinterpret and work around them. This is what led to Guantanamo. The Drug War. Torture. Wiretapping the entire internet.

I'm no longer proud to be an American.
 
Lol, from the article:

The ISPs will then notify these offenders and tell them that their behavior is unacceptable. After six warnings the ISP may then take a variety of repressive measures, which include slowing down the offender’s connection.
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Six times? Lol.

Also, if they slowed down my connection because I allegedly pirated shit? I'd just cancel and get a new account/ISP. I don't think the ISPs are going to be too keen on this action if it starts cutting into their profit margins.
 
MavericK96 said:
Lol, from the article:



Six times? Lol.

Also, if they slowed down my connection because I allegedly pirated shit? I'd just cancel and get a new account/ISP. I don't think the ISPs are going to be too keen on this action if it starts cutting into their profit margins.
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I was warned twice for downloading the new Deus Ex game. The hilarious part about it is its the steam client install, meaning I still have to add it to steam, pay to unlock it to play it. I used the torrent because I was getting a speeding 5kbps, switched to torrent and was getting 2meg+. I got 2 warnings for that... Good thing I won't be on that connection for much longer!

I love getting told I'm pirating when I'm not.
 
HOCP4ME said:
Oh yeah, it's right there in the Fifth Amendment. "No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, property, or Internet connection speed, without due process of law."
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Torrentfreak is blocked on my university connection(ugh), I thought the list would be a breach of privacy. As long as they are privately accusing people of breaking the law with no proof, then its fine.
 
There are SOOOO many ways to avoid this. 2 or 3 have already been mentioned and there are many more ways. YOU CANNOT STOP PIRACY, QUIT TRYING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. Learn about tech and than reply back. It's IMPOSSIBLE (yes, some things are impossible to do regardless of some cliche saying that says otherwise) impossible... impossible... to stop piracy. You are NEVER going to do it unless you stop downloads and email (like I said, this is impossible, as well).

The only thing they can do is make a system which catches the idiots who think they are slick by downloading torrents. I have seen many newbie non-tech people go from p2p apps like napster/bearshare/limewire/etc onto torrents because its basically just as easy.

What would be smart, is if they teamed up WITH the people who designed the torrent system. And learned of ways to catch the obvious people downloading..... leaving the people in the know alone and in the dark, where they will remain no matter what.
 
BBA said:
:confused: Something tells me you have never had a car stolen.
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I second this. police just don't car about auto theft. It will show up eventually or by the time its reported stolen its already chopped.

I just plan to overflow the database by running porn crawlers 24/7 so they don't notice my torrent traffic. my weakness is tv shows... I would get hulu but no internet up north.
 
Yeah man... what stops a big group of bots to spam their "list" or enabling innocent people with a remote-client virus to become "pirates" just because a hacker used their system unbeknownst to them?

This is just a huge idiotic idea from someone who CLEARLY does not know how these systems work. Much like other govt jobs, most of the people have ZERO CLUES as to solve the problems. Like most politicians..... They will complain, complain, and complain some more with their time.... but bring no LEGIT solutions to the table.
 
Originally Posted by Seraphical View Post
How is this even a problem? There are totally legitimate sources to download Win7 (and possibly Vista) ISO's from... for free. If the issue is WindowsXP then there are much larger issues at hand...
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MrGuvernment said:
ya www.microsoft.com / technet the only legit place, there are no others.
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LOL! Wrong. 100% solid fact, you are wrong.

You can pay $0, and you can get legit, update worthy, working keys for ANY Windows 7 program (Win7 enterprise included). To add, I have no job or school "hookups" to get it at that cost.

All it takes is 5 minutes on this forum (or google) if you want to know how. I do not wish you do anything illegal, of course.

That is all.
 
Dylan80 said:
LOL! Wrong. 100% solid fact, you are wrong.

You can pay $0, and you can get legit, update worthy, working keys for ANY Windows 7 program (Win7 enterprise included). To add, I have no job or school "hookups" to get it at that cost.

All it takes is 5 minutes on this forum (or google) if you want to know how. I do not wish you do anything illegal, of course.

That is all.
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If it's legit, why don't you enlighten us.
 
BBA said:
:confused: Something tells me you have never had a car stolen.
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@dmin said:
I second this. police just don't car about auto theft. It will show up eventually or by the time its reported stolen its already chopped.

I just plan to overflow the database by running porn crawlers 24/7 so they don't notice my torrent traffic. my weakness is tv shows... I would get hulu but no internet up north.
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You are missing my point. I never said they'd catch the thief, only that they'd go after him/her. That could mean anything from showing up to take a report to actually arresting the perp. The only point I was making is that there's no free invitation to use an unsecured network anymore than there is to drive off in an unlocked car.
 
That means that, if an ISP does not receive any ISP notices from rights holders concerning a subscriber’s account for a 12 month period, all prior ISP notices and copyright alerts from the subscriber’s account may be expunged.
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the subscriber's account may be expunged

Funny it says may and not must/will.
 
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