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Counter-strike finally toppled

piscian18

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As much as it pains me to accept it, it's real. Don't worry two weeks from now Counter-strike will be back at the top, but it's weird to see because in the 5 years I'm been a Steam subscriber this is the first time I've seen it happen. I guess at least in a way you can definitively say PC gaming is not dead. :)


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*note these stats do not include playing in offline mode.
 
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Wow, those numbers are incredible. The difference between the #3 and #4 position is staggering.
 
lol Who cares? I think what's more amazing is that after 10 years CS/CS:S/CS:CZ has that many players. IWnet won't even be up for 10 years.
 
SixtyWattMan said:
lol Who cares? I think what's more amazing is that after 10 years CS/CS:S/CS:CZ has that many players. IWnet won't even be up for 10 years.
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Actually whats even more amazing than that is the fact that even with all the bitching about COD-MW2 it still tops the steam charts with MP :D.
 
That wont last, MW2 can never be a competative game, and it's the clans and communities who base their play around competition that keep the game going for long periods of time, casual player get bored after a few months and move on.

CS is one of the most competative games ever, simply due to being designed in way that allows individual players to display a lot of skill, the engine and netcode is quite well written for dealing with split second timing.
 
PrincessFrosty said:
That wont last, MW2 can never be a competative game, and it's the clans and communities who base their play around competition that keep the game going for long periods of time, casual player get bored after a few months and move on.

CS is one of the most competative games ever, simply due to being designed in way that allows individual players to display a lot of skill, the engine and netcode is quite well written for dealing with split second timing.
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I agree with ya on that, i just found it amazing that it even topped the chart to begin with. The way everyone talks bad about the game and yet that many people are actually playing the MP part of it, amazing.
 
It was quite a big release for them, now to wait and see how the numbers fair over time. Online communities are pretty fickle, will the numbers and gaming clans last long enough for it to survive?
 
MisterSparkle said:
It was quite a big release for them, now to wait and see how the numbers fair over time. Online communities are pretty fickle, will the numbers and gaming clans last long enough for it to survive?
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With no dedicated servers, there status won't last long at all. Plus it's hard for any company to compete against games like CS. They are older games that were coded well and will play on just about any PC with no real need to upgrade.
 
piscian18 said:
Don't worry two weeks from now Counter-strike will be back at the top, but it's weird to see because in the 5 years I'm been a Steam subscriber this is the first time I've seen it happen. I guess at least in a way you can definitively say PC gaming is not dead. :)
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Yup, CS will eventually bounce back to the top. I have also never seen a game topple it from the top of the charts since 2005. Great to see that lots of people are enjoying MW2... it's a fabulous game.
 
03grandam said:
But by your definition, that wouldn't explain why CS:S and CS was on top.
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Yes it would, you see CS and CS:S are good fun games with great modding/mapping communities, dedicated servers, and leagues. The CS community might even be around for another 10 years while IWnet will be a a piece of history that people will look back on and laugh.
 
piscian18 said:
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

As much as it pains me to accept it, it's real. Don't worry two weeks from now Counter-strike will be back at the top, but it's weird to see because in the 5 years I'm been a Steam subscriber this is the first time I've seen it happen. I guess at least in a way you can definitively say PC gaming is not dead. :)


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For now

MW2 just came out

CS has been out for like ten years since its original inception. They'll come back to CS. It's happened before.
 
SixtyWattMan said:
Yes it would, you see CS and CS:S are good fun games with great modding/mapping communities, dedicated servers, and leagues. The CS community might even be around for another 10 years while IWnet will be a a piece of history that people will look back on and laugh.
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Seriously, how hurt are you over the whole MW2 debacle on PC? Because I've probably seen 100 posts from you on the issue.
 
03grandam said:
With no dedicated servers, there status won't last long at all. Plus it's hard for any company to compete against games like CS. They are older games that were coded well and will play on just about any PC with no real need to upgrade.
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DS was the reason I didn't buy. As I live in Australia on an odd schedule, I like to find servers with low ping, good maps, with admins that kick out those who cuss and whine.
 
theNoid said:
Where do I go in Steam to see these stats?
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Click the link then the drop down link at the bottom of the page.

Really struggling not to inject myself in this thread. While it's not in my price point for the content you get I'm still very intrigued about MW2. It is a beautiful game. I'm sure IW is fully aware of the simple 3 list request and if they add those things then I'll seriously consider picking it up.

On topic. From what I've seen more and more people are jumping on CSS band wagon slowly leaving behind the CS trail. I think based on the player stats Valve has noticed people aren't really making a home with Left4Dead. It could be partially due to the Mod community just now picking up L4D to play with. The stats say HL3 and a CS3 would definitely be a game changer.
 
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MisterSparkle said:
It was quite a big release for them, now to wait and see how the numbers fair over time. Online communities are pretty fickle, will the numbers and gaming clans last long enough for it to survive?
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I agree

One advantage MW2 had was that CoD was already a popular franchise, that alone was enough to bring the amount of MW2 sales we see. For now, its new so of course everyone who bought it would be playing it at the moment

Whether the game is really a solid one, whether it is capable of sustaining such amount of interest over a long period, only time will tell
 
I wouldn't consider this a defeat. CS players are just split between two versions of the same game. If they never would of released the Source edition, there would be 160k playing the original.
 
Hah, I didn't even realize people played the first counter strike anymore until just now.
 
Counterstrike is and will always be the multiplayer fps king on the PC. It has a great modding community and professional gaming leagues. I don't see anything coming out besides Counterstrike 3 that will take its crown. As for MW2 , well , every dog has his day, or week. I'm sure CSS will be back on top next month once the luster has worn off.
 
03grandam said:
But by your definition, that wouldn't explain why CS:S and CS was on top.
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Look at it this way.

Sure, whatever crap Britney Spears shovels out (or whoever the kiddies are listening to these days) might be on the top of the sales for a month, but ten years from now, do you think that her no-talent pop crap will be doing anywhere near as well as a quality album like, say, Pretty Hate Machine by Nine Inch Nails?
 
Daggah said:
Look at it this way.

Sure, whatever crap Britney Spears shovels out (or whoever the kiddies are listening to these days) might be on the top of the sales for a month, but ten years from now, do you think that her no-talent pop crap will be doing anywhere near as well as a quality album like, say, Pretty Hate Machine by Nine Inch Nails?
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I wouldn't equate it quite so negatively. I'd say a lot teens are or were recently into Linkin Park. Enough so that they've been on Rolling Stone Magazine covers and gotten rave reviews. Will anybody still listen to them in ten years? Unlikely. Will people still be listening to NIN in ten years? Definitely.
 
So you're saying a lot of people play MW2 because they need a video game to keep them occupied while they cut themselves?
 
Is there any doubt to Counter Strike being the game of the decade?

Amazing how long that game has been popular.
 
Cs is a good game for all the reasons already said in this thread but it's still played by a lot of kids with no money and old computers. That is a big reason why it's still so popular.
 
87k? theres like 200+ on live and ps3 at any given time except late week nights.. even halo is usally around 100-150 in evening time. is there really that many more console gamers? i really did not notice.
 
There were probably more people playing CoD4 online than CS also, it just didn't require Steam so it didnt show up in the stats.
 
As the OP mentioned, CS and CS:S will be back on top in maybe a month or so. The novelty will wear off, as it always has, and the non CoD players will move back to their games like CS:S etc.

If MW2 supported dedicated servers, didn't disable useful cvars (like FoV ffs), supported competitive play, had the ability to record, and most importantly wasn't modern campfest 2 where camping is the primary method of play for most players - then it may have had a chance of staying at the top with the other big boys.

Note: imo it's not the players fault the game is such a camping fest, it's the fault of the map design where some key areas on many maps have like 10,15,20 different spots you can get shot from - it's really over the top and ridiculous, specifically designed so any skill-less noob can just hide in one of a hundred dark spots and get a kill. I hate to sound stereotypish but IW really overdid themselves catering to console kids.

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LOL- There are usually 600-900,000 playing MW2 on Xbox live when I'm on.
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No shit sherlock, console gamers don't have real competitive FPS games to choose from. As a fan of competitive CS, watching a console "competitive" match like Halo or whatever is like watching retarded monkeys flinging poop at each other. This isn't an insult at the players, but the fact is "console-gamepad-controller" and "competitive" does not compute.
 
There's no reason why it shouldn't be on top though. I had a few friends buy the PC version. I gave them a funny look and the only response was "What?"... I then asked why they bought it despite all the negatives. They honestly had no idea that there were no dedicated servers etc. Also, these same friends think a Phenom II is the best processor out right now, better than the i7 / i5's.
 
Intel_Hydralisk said:
There's no reason why it shouldn't be on top though. I had a few friends buy the PC version. I gave them a funny look and the only response was "What?"... I then asked why they bought it despite all the negatives. They honestly had no idea that there were no dedicated servers etc. Also, these same friends think a Phenom II is the best processor out right now, better than the i7 / i5's.
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Another "If you like MW2 you must be an idiot".

Well thank Zeus for idiots! I love the CoD series and MW2 has been no different. It's a fun game and I'm glad its on the PC and hope to see it continue on the PC.

I didn't like the consolization of the game any more than anyone else but I'd rather see games on the PC than not. It some people don't like it then fine. Don't buy it. But to rail against those who do and indeed hoping that AAA title like this would fail on the PC is just childish for a TRUE PC gamer and enthusiast.

The beuuty of a Windows PC is the breadth and depth of its software library and all that it supports. Why be against the heart and soul of the PC? How does that serve an enthusiast? If you are afraid that others will go IW's route in the future then perhaps I can see your concern.

There are the market realities of PC gaming. It is a smaller market and AAA titles are unfortunately targeted for consoles. Yeah that sucks. But if PC gamers continue to be a good size market, although smaller than consoles, you'll still see stuff for the PC. But if we don't buy stuff that'll not happen.
 
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