Corsair: 650D

[joejoejoe123]

Few questions and comments for the general population and for Redbeard since he is a customer service master:

1. In General: Regardless of the fan issues, my temps in this case are incredible. As I mentioned, I have the top exhaust fan completely disconnected, the front intake connected to the mobo, and the rear 80mm or 120mm (can't remember what it is) doing its thing. Haven't tested load temps yet because I've been too busy playing with hardware, but for those wondering about cooling ability:

CPU: Currently at idle on an i7-860 at 3.5ghz (with speedstep on) with 4 cores at 25-30-32-34. Numerous degrees cooler on every core moving from my horribly cramped Antec P180. Did I mention it has more than enough room for a Thermalright Silver Arrow? Yeah, it does. Killer.

Video card: Gigabyte GTX460 SOC Edition is hovering around 27-30C with basic 2D usage.

Hard drives: I have 2 WD Caviar Black 1TBs, one which is the new 6gbps version, a 2TB Caviar Green, and an old Seagate 750GB. Everything is around 29-30C. Might move the bays cages around and see if that has any change on temps or air turbulence since they are right next to the intake.

As noted, this is with the top fan completely inactive, and the front fan set to whatever the mobo is doing. I'm curious as to how the stock Corsair fans will work once I get the fix since I had the buzzing issue. The fan controller worked, but on medium and low the buzzing and rattle was truly unbearable. If you set it to high, the sound was much more "clean," but the airflow was CRAZY. I'm more than willing to sacrifice a couple degrees in the name of silence, but I will wait to change fans until after I get the final fix from Corsair. Props to them for being proactive about it.

2. For Redbeard: What is the recommendation for the USB 3 cables if I don't have extra ports to plug them into? I have two USB 3.0 ports on my backplate but I'm already using those. Are there internal add in cards that I can plug it into directly inside the case? Right now they're just curled up in the space for other optical drives. Great feature, assuming you have the spare ports on the back, but having an internal USB 3 connector would have been nice, although I know it's not quite the industry standard. You guys are ahead of the game, so I can't fault you for that at all.

3. Any recommendations for how to best manage the cables on the non window side? I've never used a case with cable routing like this, and the interior looks flawless and I might actually buy a cathode for the first time in a decade since it's so sexy, but the wires on the back are so bundled that the side panel is actually bulging somewhat. The HDD connectors are meant to be facing the back, correct? Not 100% sure what is causing the bulging issues (that sounds weird) but I guess I can try to tape things down. Hopefully I don't have to buy "slimmer" cables or whatnot.

I think that's all for now. Installation was a breeze, aside from the optical drive bay covers being a bit stubborn and I was afraid I was going to break something, and the mentioned cable bulging. Absolutely in love with this case, and I actually look forward to tweaking things and working with it for quite a while. It is going to be a long time until a new case comes along that really challenges this one.

 

[Redbeard]

2. For Redbeard: What is the recommendation for the USB 3 cables if I don't have extra ports to plug them into? I have two USB 3.0 ports on my backplate but I'm already using those. Are there internal add in cards that I can plug it into directly inside the case? Right now they're just curled up in the space for other optical drives. Great feature, assuming you have the spare ports on the back, but having an internal USB 3 connector would have been nice, although I know it's not quite the industry standard. You guys are ahead of the game, so I can't fault you for that at all.

3. Any recommendations for how to best manage the cables on the non window side? I've never used a case with cable routing like this, and the interior looks flawless and I might actually buy a cathode for the first time in a decade since it's so sexy, but the wires on the back are so bundled that the side panel is actually bulging somewhat. The HDD connectors are meant to be facing the back, correct? Not 100% sure what is causing the bulging issues (that sounds weird) but I guess I can try to tape things down. Hopefully I don't have to buy "slimmer" cables or whatnot.

As for the USB 3.0, they make USB 3.0 PCI-E add-in cards. Like this one

As for the cable management, the trick is zip ties. Zip ties and patience.

 

[joejoejoe123]

As for the USB 3.0, they make USB 3.0 PCI-E add-in cards. Like this one

As for the cable management, the trick is zip ties. Zip ties and patience.

I did see that add in card, but I would still have to route the cables outside the case.

This looks more suitable:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815201035

That would allow for a fully internal connection, but the price is steep. I might just have to wait until I really need it or for USB 3.0 to become more mainstream and not use the front headers yet. That's the price you pay for being on the cutting edge, I suppose.

As for the zip ties, yes. Going to sit down soon and play with ties, cables, and probably some tape. I can't complain much since the bulging isn't to the point where I think it is causing too much stress on the hinges, so hopefully I get it sorted out. The interior is just so beautiful compared to the rat's nest I had gotten used to, it's amazing. I'll post a before and after pic once I tweak things. Random question, if it comes to the point where I want to use tape, what should I go with? Electrical tape? Masking tape? Gorilla Glue?

The SATA power cords for HDDs that came with the Corsair HX620 have a very stiff bend in them when you hook them up, and this might be pressing against the side panel. Guess I need to see what kind of spacing and arrangements make that easier. Didn't even think to move the drive bay forward a little.

Thanks Redbeard! If only other companies had people working for them that are as diligent as you. But then again, Corsair are who they are for a reason.

 

[computergeek485]

i'll probably buy the 650d once it has the internal mobo header for usb 3

 

[joejoejoe123]

i'll probably buy the 650d once it has the internal mobo header for usb 3

Maybe Cosair will send out a free kit upgrade for that as well

 

[Eluder79]

I picked up my 650D tonight, but likely won't be using it until next week when my B3 stepping P67 board arrives.

Redbeard, I was wondering, have you guys confirmed if you will be releasing new USB 3.0 front panel connectors that work with the motherboard headers? I really hope so, as like others here, my board has these and therefore I would have a total of 4 ports (2 back IO, 2 front panel) if a motherboard header cable was available. Since I have yet to build the case, I can't comment on the potential buzzing fans, but hopefully mine won't have the issue, but we shall see soon enough. Do you know when the fix will be available for us to 'order', should it be needed?

Thanks!

 

[dalearyous]

mine is out for delivery but i won't really have time to do anything with it until Tuesday

 

[MeanBruce]

650D Madness Baby!!! Poor Mr. Redbeard comes here and solves all the world's issues! I used the Noctua inline resistors both blue and black coded and the fans are working fine! No buzzing no noise all components cool and quiet! The Noctua grommets also fit perfectly inside the Corsair circle grommets and I have not used the fantroller! All is cool and will be fine until the 20th! Maauuhn is this case ever beautiful! My first Corsair case the AX850 is just made for this case! I noticed my HX850 is graphite black but my AX850 is Obsidian Black just perfect couldn't be happier!!! Instead of spending money on color graphics for the shipping box, Corsair goes with a monochome look and puts the money into triple thick cardboard, so smart! Ok back to tweeking !

 

[andiron]

I appreciate the fact that Corsair wants to take care of it's customers. With that said I also think it's a bit of a slap in the face that they are taking so long to provide the kit to fix the buzz problem. If they are already shipping 650D cases that do not have the problem then why can't they take care of their first customers first. IMNSHO....they should delay shipping until they get the problems fixed....and they should fix the problems for those that already purchased their cases. I'm in the process of trying to return my case...waiting on Newegg Customer Support to reply. I plan on following through on Monday. I'm going to try to return my case...then buy a few weeks down the road when problems have been fixed. If their going to make me wait I'm going to send it back to them and let them sort the repair out for themselves. Of course...it will be interesting to see how the shipping is handled...that may affect my decision. Ultimately, I'm not pleased with the priority shown so far. Action speaks louder than words and it's been a week now waiting for Corsair to make the kit available. Am I alone in thinking this is bad form on Corsair's part?

 

[MeanBruce]

Dude just don't use the fan controller until the week of the 20th it's just 8 days. Pick up some Noctua or other brand fan attenuators for 3 bucks can always use them later OR mount some Cooler Master Megaflow 200mm fans in the meantime they mount right up, or any fans you have lying around. Don't let you know this issue spoil the case for you, it's just too darn good! I am working on an ODD stealth mod for the DVD/blu-ray drive. I have heard 3M foam squares work well, think I will try some Velcro squares, I just can't ruin the elegant look of the aluminum front by adding in a DVD faceplate. Gonna make it stealthy! Sure I wish Corsair offered a stealth mod kit but they are not gonna wipe our rear ends the rest of our lives just because we purchased a case. Real enthusiasts make it work! I am sure Mr. Redbeard would aggree, customer support only goes so far sometimes ya have to use your own brain!

 

[Patonb]

650D Madness Baby!!! Poor Mr. Redbeard comes here and solves all the world's issues! I used the Noctua inline resistors both blue and black coded and the fans are working fine! No buzzing no noise all components cool and quiet! The Noctua grommets also fit perfectly inside the Corsair circle grommets and I have not used the fantroller! All is cool and will be fine until the 20th! Maauuhn is this case ever beautiful! My first Corsair case the AX850 is just made for this case! I noticed my HX850 is graphite black but my AX850 is Obsidian Black just perfect couldn't be happier!!! Instead of spending money on color graphics for the shipping box, Corsair goes with a monochome look and puts the money into triple thick cardboard, so smart! Ok back to tweeking !

How'd you go about the fix with Noctua? They just plug straight in?

This is just to slow them down eh, without a humm?

 

[joejoejoe123]

Dude just don't use the fan controller until the week of the 20th it's just 8 days. Pick up some Noctua or other brand fan attenuators for 3 bucks can always use them later OR mount some Cooler Master Megaflow 200mm fans in the meantime they mount right up, or any fans you have lying around. Don't let you know this issue spoil the case for you, it's just too darn good! I am working on an ODD stealth mod for the DVD/blu-ray drive. I have heard 3M foam squares work well, think I will try some Velcro squares, I just can't ruin the elegant look of the aluminum front by adding in a DVD faceplate. Gonna make it stealthy! Sure I wish Corsair offered a stealth mod kit but they are not gonna wipe our rear ends the rest of our lives just because we purchased a case. Real enthusiasts make it work! I am sure Mr. Redbeard would aggree, customer support only goes so far sometimes ya have to use your own brain!

I agree. The case is so nice that waiting a week pretty much to have the fans fixed is essentially a non issue for me. As mentioned, my temps are more than fine even with the top fan completely disconnected. If somebody is so impatient about what Corsair is doing to fix the problem (which is already above and beyond what many other companies would do) then perhaps they should reconsider buying products immediately at launch. That is the price you pay to have something brand spanking new. You have options. Deal with it. New technology often has issues, and this is fairly minor in my opinion.

MeanBruce, I agree with you about the aluminum front. Unfortunately I needed my optical drive right away and while it is black and doesn't exactly clash, it's not brushed aluminum. I've been needing a new optical drive anyways, so maybe I'll look into something that is more compatible with the looks. I'm definitely interested in all your upcoming mods, as I haven't really invested much time in tweaking a case in years. Once I see what the end result is of the Corsair fan fix, then I'll look into getting different fans. Like I said, silence is my thing. The gloves are coming off though. I'm gonna make this thing as perfect as I can. It's already pretty close and light years beyond my P180.

Also a question about what was included in the kit:

The 8 rubber grommets and big screws. Are these for additional fans for later installation, or are these something that I missed in the default setup? The three stock fans were already totally in place. Wondering if I skipped something...

 

[andiron]

Dude just don't use the fan controller until the week of the 20th it's just 8 days. Pick up some Noctua or other brand fan attenuators for 3 bucks can always use them later OR mount some Cooler Master Megaflow 200mm fans in the meantime they mount right up, or any fans you have lying around. Don't let you know this issue spoil the case for you, it's just too darn good! I am working on an ODD stealth mod for the DVD/blu-ray drive. I have heard 3M foam squares work well, think I will try some Velcro squares, I just can't ruin the elegant look of the aluminum front by adding in a DVD faceplate. Gonna make it stealthy! Sure I wish Corsair offered a stealth mod kit but they are not gonna wipe our rear ends the rest of our lives just because we purchased a case. Real enthusiasts make it work! I am sure Mr. Redbeard would aggree, customer support only goes so far sometimes ya have to use your own brain!

Okay man I understand your point....BUT...this is my first build. So I'm already needing a baby sitter! And while I don't expect Corsair to be the one to hold my hand...I do expect to get the advertised product. A case, as described, complete with fan controllers and fans....all working properly!

Let's call it like it is...an embarrassment that they missed this and sent cases out. Not one person at Corsair tested these fans? Really? Quality control anyone? Try a build first perhaps?

Okay...aside from my present venting....haven't been wanting to be ugly. It's not my ultimate goad to slam Corsair. But I think it's important for them, and us as consumers, to call it like it is....and have them put things right. And I don't think it out of line to voice my opinion about how I feel as a customer.

Yes...it's a beautiful case...but it came delivered complete with a STUPID mistake! AND....If they can fix the cases going out to new customers...why not make the same fix available to those of us that already purchased? Perhaps it's harder to get the kits together than to change the manufacturing process? I guess this point is not worth arguing over but those of us waiting to pull the trigger and buy on day one got hosed unnecessarily. imo

Now because of my lack of experience...I'm not even sure what an attenuator is? Yeah...I'm embarrassed for being ignorant...but I don't know. Also, I would be okay with replacing fans...but it is my understanding from past conversation that other fans don't fit. (at least not the higher CFM thicker fans) And why are we paying extra to fit this thing with aftermarket fans anyway?

If I could get as much CFM out of a slower spinning thicker and more quiet fan...and it would be a reasonable cost...I would consider this route. Even though once again I think it's lame that they didn't design it this way in the first place.

So basically it sounds like you are suggesting that I do what they should have done... and put a higher CFM/ lower RPM fan in the front? Yes? Also...while I'm asking questions... can you tell me if it's a good idea to replace the top fan with dual 120/140s? It is my understanding from researching the 600T (same inside) that a negative case pressure is created when this happens....and that the top exhaust works better than the front fan can push. One guy even tried reversing one of the top fans on the 600T and said his temps lowered a bit. I would worry that a recycling of air in and out of the case could occur with that configuration?

Look, I'm obviously not so tech savvy...but I am picky and did do my homework. This is indeed a beautiful case...great features...just what I wanted. Great size wise....with filters, window, plenty of great inside features, hot swap dock, USB 3.0. ...and supposedly better ventilation than the 600T...complete with a way to control fan speed. Again...a very nice case...but I think it should be for over $200! Simply put...I expect to buy one with working fans. I also expect any company...including Corsair...to have worked out some of the bugs/details that enthusiasts like yourself work out here in a matter of days.

Lastly, I don't know the significance of March 20th. I must have missed it?

Ultimately, I'm pissed at having to repair their mistake... But I'm also pleased that are willing to stand behind their product. So I guess it's a bit of a wash. If they were a little more apologetic and a little faster to get the kits out...and pass on information about this issue I would have probably never said this much.

PS. I'm hoping to learn from guys like you as well...perhaps a fan mod will be the best alternative? And as for waiting...this is most likely what will happen....since Newegg charges a restocking fee and I will most certainly have to pay shipping. And on a lighter note...yes...your optical drive cover mod sounds really cool! I hope you post pic and description when you've figured it out.

 

[andiron]

I agree. The case is so nice that waiting a week pretty much to have the fans fixed is essentially a non issue for me. As mentioned, my temps are more than fine even with the top fan completely disconnected. If somebody is so impatient about what Corsair is doing to fix the problem (which is already above and beyond what many other companies would do) then perhaps they should reconsider buying products immediately at launch. That is the price you pay to have something brand spanking new. You have options. Deal with it. New technology often has issues, and this is fairly minor in my opinion.

MeanBruce, I agree with you about the aluminum front. Unfortunately I needed my optical drive right away and while it is black and doesn't exactly clash, it's not brushed aluminum. I've been needing a new optical drive anyways, so maybe I'll look into something that is more compatible with the looks. I'm definitely interested in all your upcoming mods, as I haven't really invested much time in tweaking a case in years. Once I see what the end result is of the Corsair fan fix, then I'll look into getting different fans. Like I said, silence is my thing. The gloves are coming off though. I'm gonna make this thing as perfect as I can. It's already pretty close and light years beyond my P180.

Also a question about what was included in the kit:

The 8 rubber grommets and big screws. Are these for additional fans for later installation, or are these something that I missed in the default setup? The three stock fans were already totally in place. Wondering if I skipped something...

Your right...buying a new product can be a risky thing. Being an early adopter is not always the best course. But really....are our expectations so low that we don't expect working fans? Now it's my fault for buying on day one? Corsair isn't going above and beyond what other companies would do. This is what any company should do....and at the very least! They know they have to do it...or the press would be bad...the reviews would suffer....just as indicated by the two reviews on Newegg right now.

I saw this post just after my last one. My point is...guys...we don't have to hammer Corsair...or be ugly....or be unfair....but if you don't hold some expectations....some level of demand for a product to be delivered as advertised...then what has all this come to? I'm not going to make apologies for Corsair. I think what they have here is an awesome case. It should have come with working fans/fan controllers. That's as basic as it gets.

 

[joejoejoe123]

Your right...buying a new product can be a risky thing. Being an early adopter is not always the best course. But really....are our expectations so low that we don't expect working fans? Now it's my fault for buying on day one? Corsair isn't going above and beyond what other companies would do. This is what any company should do....and at the very least! They know they have to do it...or the press would be bad...the reviews would suffer....just as indicated by the two reviews on Newegg right now.

I saw this post just after my last one. My point is...guys...we don't have to hammer Corsair...or be ugly....or be unfair....but if you don't hold some expectations....some level of demand for a product to be delivered as advertised...then what has all this come to? I'm not going to make apologies for Corsair. I think what they have here is an awesome case. It should have come with working fans/fan controllers. That's as basic as it gets.

Andi, here is my advice to you:

I understand your frustration. Trust me. Been there many times with many products. Recently had a laptop order canceled because of the Sandy-Bridge glitch. Not to sound too philosophical, and while yes you do have basic rights and standards that should be met as a consumer, we live in an imperfect world. These things happen. Accept this, and then examine the options you have. Corsair is well above standard, but these things will pop up time to time. There are other companies out there slower to fix the problem, companies who will actually ignore the problem and deny you support, and companies that will charge you for the fix. Corsair is none of those.

This is your first build, so I know that you are extra frustrated and it has definitely put a damper on your excitement. But like I said, you have options. There will be a fix, and it will be soon. Since you are new to the game, think of it as a challenge. You didn't get everything in perfect order. Okay. Take the initiative and see what you can do as a builder to make this thing just how you want it. That may involve waiting for the Corsair fix and it may involve buying 3rd party fans or accessories. Don't get pissed, get excited. You want to learn to build? Jump in feet first right now. Read the forums, check out Newegg and FrozenCPU, look at what you can do. Don't think about the fan problem as a negative, think about it as a positive; an opportunity.

As for the 120/140s, I would personally wait and see what the fan fixes do. Then see what your temps and noise levels are like and go from there. Don't let one a small sample influence your decision so greatly that you really think you need to upgrade something when it might not make any real significant difference.

 

[andiron]

Andi, here is my advice to you:

I understand your frustration. Trust me. Been there many times with many products. Recently had a laptop order canceled because of the Sandy-Bridge glitch. Not to sound too philosophical, and while yes you do have basic rights and standards that should be met as a consumer, we live in an imperfect world. These things happen. Accept this, and then examine the options you have. Corsair is well above standard, but these things will pop up time to time. There are other companies out there slower to fix the problem, companies who will actually ignore the problem and deny you support, and companies that will charge you for the fix. Corsair is none of those.

This is your first build, so I know that you are extra frustrated and it has definitely put a damper on your excitement. But like I said, you have options. There will be a fix, and it will be soon. Since you are new to the game, think of it as a challenge. You didn't get everything in perfect order. Okay. Take the initiative and see what you can do as a builder to make this thing just how you want it. That may involve waiting for the Corsair fix and it may involve buying 3rd party fans or accessories. Don't get pissed, get excited. You want to learn to build? Jump in feet first right now. Read the forums, check out Newegg and FrozenCPU, look at what you can do. Don't think about the fan problem as a negative, think about it as a positive; an opportunity.

As for the 120/140s, I would personally wait and see what the fan fixes do. Then see what your temps and noise levels are like and go from there. Don't let one a small sample influence your decision so greatly that you really think you need to upgrade something when it might not make any real significant difference.

Fair enough. And I am willing to accept your words and your advice. As much as I'm willing to do this is as much as I also demand for others to step up to the plate. Perhaps this is why I got so bent out of shape. Please understand, I don't hate Corsair...don't plan on another case...etc etc. And I do want to learn. And I dont mind a few bucks for some modding...if it helps. In other words...I'm willing to accept a product for what it is...even if the ventilation isn't so great. But if it's buzzing like a mofo...well then....makes me wonder who's watching the hen house? LOL Did anyone up at Corsair bother to turn the fans on and operate them? Did someone make a switch at the last moment?

Okay....getting revved up again. Seriously, I'm going to chill. I appreciate your points. I'm sure in the end this will be a fantastic case.

 

[dalearyous]

it sounds like everyone is making a big deal out of nothing. and if corsair is willing to fix the problem for free who cares? better than most companies.

i can't say enough of how awesome this case is.

 

[Redbeard]

And while I don't expect Corsair to be the one to hold my hand...I do expect to get the advertised product. A case, as described, complete with fan controllers and fans....all working properly!

Let's call it like it is...an embarrassment that they missed this and sent cases out. Not one person at Corsair tested these fans? Really? Quality control anyone? Try a build first perhaps?

You're 100% right. No excuses. We missed it in production. We're doing what we can to fix it.

Once somebody drops the ball, all you can do is try to pick it up and move it in the right direction again, and we dropped the ball on this.

No excuses, just a guarantee that I'll do whatever I can to make it right to anybody that bought a 650D.

 

[andiron]

You're 100% right. No excuses. We missed it in production. We're doing what we can to fix it.

Once somebody drops the ball, all you can do is try to pick it up and move it in the right direction again, and we dropped the ball on this.

No excuses, just a guarantee that I'll do whatever I can to make it right to anybody that bought a 650D.

Well this certainly hits home in a personal way with your reply. You sound like a truly honorable guy and a great representative of your company. I'm sorry about the harshness of my stance. And you too sir are 100% correct. Sometimes things happen...people make mistakes or overlook things....everyone... myself included.

We're all human. It's how we handle our mistakes and difficulties that defines who we are as people (or as a company). You just changed my definition. And you also made me aware of how quickly I came to make judgment.
I got upset because I perceived something that obviously isn't true. With your reply any perceived slight towards me as a customer has been erased. Now, in my book, the buzz issue is just an accident..And you are just a great guy from a great company doing your best.

Not much more I can say. What you just said really pretty much leaves me as speechless as I ever get!

From zero to 100 in two seconds....I have the highest opinion of you, your company, and products. I feel like I bought the case from a good friend!

Thank you!

Edit: Btw....my excitement and pride in owning this case just hit an all time high! I think this case will be awesome for my first build ever!

 

[pwrusr]

1. In General: Regardless of the fan issues, my temps in this case are incredible. As I mentioned, I have the top exhaust fan completely disconnected, the front intake connected to the mobo, and the rear 80mm or 120mm (can't remember what it is) doing its thing. Haven't tested load temps yet because I've been too busy playing with hardware, but for those wondering about cooling ability:

CPU: Currently at idle on an i7-860 at 3.5ghz (with speedstep on) with 4 cores at 25-30-32-34. Numerous degrees cooler on every core moving from my horribly cramped Antec P180. Did I mention it has more than enough room for a Thermalright Silver Arrow? Yeah, it does. Killer.

How's HDD noise compared to the antec180?

 

[faulkton]

Dude just don't use the fan controller until the week of the 20th it's just 8 days. Pick up some Noctua or other brand fan attenuators for 3 bucks can always use them later OR mount some Cooler Master Megaflow 200mm fans in the meantime they mount right up, or any fans you have lying around. Don't let you know this issue spoil the case for you, it's just too darn good! I am working on an ODD stealth mod for the DVD/blu-ray drive. I have heard 3M foam squares work well, think I will try some Velcro squares, I just can't ruin the elegant look of the aluminum front by adding in a DVD faceplate. Gonna make it stealthy! Sure I wish Corsair offered a stealth mod kit but they are not gonna wipe our rear ends the rest of our lives just because we purchased a case. Real enthusiasts make it work! I am sure Mr. Redbeard would aggree, customer support only goes so far sometimes ya have to use your own brain!

What are you doing for the odd? I took the drive apart and painted both the bezel and the metal casing. I like the look for the metal casing but still not happy with the bezel. I ordered a lian li aluminum bezel i'm going to try to make work with a dremel. What's you plan?

You're 100% right. No excuses. We missed it in production. We're doing what we can to fix it.

Once somebody drops the ball, all you can do is try to pick it up and move it in the right direction again, and we dropped the ball on this.

No excuses, just a guarantee that I'll do whatever I can to make it right to anybody that bought a 650D.

This is why i buy corsair.

Now please just make some accessories ... like 5.25" odd bezels and maybe a 5.25 intake fan/hd cage/cooler

 

[cheapo]

Will Frys or Microcenter be getting this case?

 

[Redbeard]

Will Frys or Microcenter be getting this case?

Microcenter has them now. Fry's will have them next month.

 

[computergeek485]

I saw the 650d at PAX east at the corsair booth, it reaffirmed my desire to get one of these. The booth also showcased how sexy the sp2500 2.1 speakers sounded in game (crysis 2 multiplayer).

 

[joejoejoe123]

How's HDD noise compared to the antec180?

I would say it is the same, if not better.

However, when I upgraded my case, I also upgraded my drive from the 32MB version of the WD Caviar Black 1TB (FALS) to the 64MB version (FAEX). I cloned the one to the other, and the FAEX seemed to make a high pitched sound that I hadn't noticed before with the older drive, and I sure wouldn't say it is normal. I replaced the drive with another, and it had the same issue.

As for all the other drives, which are the original 1TB being transferred to, a 2TB Caviar Green that is constantly being hit with files big and small, and a 750GB Seagate for random backup, I can't say I notice them at all. The noise from the front fan is the most prominent noise, and that should be rendered a non-issue soon enough.

I will probably look into various silencing options for the hard drives (and the case in general) once I get things figured out. I'm not sure what exactly will work with the way the drives are mounted in the trays. I haven't ventured into HDD silencing before, but as I mentioned before I will do what I can to kill the acoustics of whatever is in this thing.

Having the full side panel would be great instead of a window so I could get sound dampening material over it all. We'll see.

 

[hardal]

650D Madness Baby!!! Poor Mr. Redbeard comes here and solves all the world's issues! I used the Noctua inline resistors both blue and black coded and the fans are working fine! No buzzing no noise all components cool and quiet! The Noctua grommets also fit perfectly inside the Corsair circle grommets and I have not used the fantroller! All is cool and will be fine until the 20th! Maauuhn is this case ever beautiful! My first Corsair case the AX850 is just made for this case! I noticed my HX850 is graphite black but my AX850 is Obsidian Black just perfect couldn't be happier!!! Instead of spending money on color graphics for the shipping box, Corsair goes with a monochome look and puts the money into triple thick cardboard, so smart! Ok back to tweeking !

lol @ 650D madness

i so wanna get one now too after searching for it.

 

[KRAZYD0NUT]

Just got the 650D middle of last week. built is finish.

overall i'm happy with it, just as many have mention, same issue with fan controller.

I ended up not using any of the stock fan. both my new 200mm fan are conected via molex, and the 2 noctua 120mm fan works with fan controller via adapter.

I will try to get picture out tonight

 

[MrSneis]

**OMG I can't post the link**

N*CIX has a nice pre-built "limited edition" 650d rig with a 6990, gigabyte p67a-ud7, Corsair ax850, h70, etc. up for grabs starting today @ $3k. Nice looking rig, impressed by the choice of hardware myself but not a fan of red paint scheme.

 

[dannn]

This case looks very nice! Might be my next case if I ever decide to replace my Fractal R3.
I hope there is an option for no side window.

 

[KRAZYD0NUT]

Pic: quick from iphone, sorry kinda large, didn't have tiem to resize.

spec:

Case: 650D / Cpu: 965 O.C. 4.0 Ghz / Mobo: Asus Crosshair Formula IV
Ram: Mushkin Ridgeback Redline 2gb x4 / Psu: Cougar cmx 700w
Cpu cooler: Cooler: H50 w/ 2 noctua PF-12 / Video card: 6950 x2
HDD: 40gb intel SSD (boot drive) / seagate 500gb x2 raid 0

no drive bay mount, i like the clean look, external dvd drive for me when needed.

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here a picture of my 600t if some people are still in doubt if both internal are the same.

 

[dalearyous]

nice pics. my case came friday but i finally will have time to build tomorrow. will post pics of it alongside 700d

 

[fantomau]

Nice, everything tucked away nicely?

 

[KRAZYD0NUT]

Nice, everything tucked away nicely?

I found cable tucking was more roomy (from back panel) on the 600t, via the concave case design. i never had a 700d or 800d to compare this too.

overall i didn't have any problems. compared to my antec 902 and 1200, the rubber groument, makes the biggest difference in overall cleaness.

pros.
Lots of room, fit big video cards, better air cooling then 600t, fan filter, love the HDD mounting (makes it easy to hide cable)

again I love this case, getting a D-series in a mid-tower is what i been asking for. IMHO looks of this case is a big win for me.


a few cons (some might disagree with me)

overall construction and sheet metal doesn't feel as thick or as sturdy as the 600t.
yes i know the 600t is mixed plastic and metal case. side panel feels very cheap and thin when compared.

no option to mount 2x 120mm in the front. (not planning to anyway)

fan controller is garbage (i wasn't expecting outstanding result, well just something that works, like on the 600t)

no rubber feet in the rear (i'm just digging for a con here), since most of the weight sits in the rear, this shouldn't be a problem. Also 1 of my front rubber feet fell off during shippment, simple fixes with super glue.

 

[Redbeard]

a few cons (some might disagree with me)

overall construction and sheet metal doesn't feel as thick or as sturdy as the 600t.
yes i know the 600t is mixed plastic and metal case. side panel feels very cheap and thin when compared.

no option to mount 2x 120mm in the front. (not planning to anyway)

fan controller is garbage (i wasn't expecting outstanding result, well just something that works, like on the 600t)

no rubber feet in the rear (i'm just digging for a con here), since most of the weight sits in the rear, this shouldn't be a problem. Also 1 of my front rubber feet fell off during shippment, simple fixes with super glue.

Thanks for the feedback. Let me answer a few of the points.

1) The sheet metal sides are the same thickness on 600T/650D, but because the 600Ts are a compound curve, they gain stiffness and rigidity. The 650D is a flat sheet, meaning that by nature it's a bit more wobbly.

2) The front fan mounts are something we'll look into for future cases - lots of feedback on that.

3) I have a fix for this soon, hopefully it'll fix your issue.

4) Thanks for the heads up on the rubber feet - I'll bring it to engineering to make sure they look at the adhesive for them so they don't fall off the case. That's just ridiculous.

 

[joejoejoe123]

Alright, time to post some pics:

Specs:

Case: 650D / CPU-i7-860 @3.5Ghz / Mobo: Gigabyte P55A-UD4P
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 2x2GB / PSU: Corsair HX620
CPU cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow / Video Card: Gigabyte GTX460 SOC
HDD: 1TB WD Caviar Black/2TB Caviar Green/750GB Seagate

 

[thinkdiesel]

nice

 

[DOOMHAMMA]

How difficult would it be to stealth a dvd drive on this case? Would it be noticeable/sticking out?

 

[joejoejoe123]

How difficult would it be to stealth a dvd drive on this case? Would it be noticeable/sticking out?

Not sure. I need a new dvd/blu ray drive, so I'm gonna look for one with a brushed aluminum front as I don't need a totally stealth look. A guy on the Corsair forum is working on a stealth mod though.

 

[nbuubu]

Not sure. I need a new dvd/blu ray drive, so I'm gonna look for one with a brushed aluminum front as I don't need a totally stealth look. A guy on the Corsair forum is working on a stealth mod though.

I'm really interested in this too. Shame the case didn't come with stealth cover options direct from Corsair, it sucks to have such a pretty front marred by cheesy dvdr and lightscribe logos.

 

[KRAZYD0NUT]

I'm really interested in this too. Shame the case didn't come with stealth cover options direct from Corsair, it sucks to have such a pretty front marred by cheesy dvdr and lightscribe logos.

external drive FTW...

I know what you mean, "it's like looking at a extremely hot chick, then noticing 1 of her breast is off proportion"