Comcast Deceptive? No Way!

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I have the distinct honor of telling you that I have never been a Comcast customer, but I am with Frontier now, so don't feel like I got one up on you. It seems that the State of Washington is tired of Comcast and its BS with its customers.

Comcast engaged “in a pattern of deceptive practices,” the state claimed Monday, saying it believes Comcast committed more than 1.8 million individual violations of the state Consumer Protection Act, affecting 500,000 state residents.
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1.8 million counts of deception. That is going to be hard for Frontier to top.
 
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I'm sure that this works as a red blanket on a bull, Comcast management will try to do a better job of screwing their customers ....
 
My GF and literally moved to KC for Google Fiber. Couldn't be happier. It's a joy and freedom everyone should have.

I know in the future internet will decide where we move. Absolutely.

Here in KC, Comcast / Time Warner or whoever they are these days send us junk mail weekly asking us to come back to their service. It's just a losing battle for them since their pricing and speed does not come close to what Google offers.

A new dirty tactic these cable companies are using is they are going to the developers of new apartment complexes and getting them to sign multi-year agreements to be the only provide of internet service. I just read something about that being a problem here in Kansas City suddenly and new tenants of these apartments are pissed when they are finding out. It's not even being disclosed until the leases are signed.
 
SixFootDuo said:
My GF and literally moved to KC for Google Fiber. Couldn't be happier. It's a joy and freedom everyone should have.

I know in the future internet will decide where we move. Absolutely.

Here in KC, Comcast / Time Warner or whoever they are these days send us junk mail weekly asking us to come back to their service. It's just a losing battle for them since their pricing and speed does not come close to what Google offers.

A new dirty tactic these cable companies are using is they are going to the developers of new apartment complexes and getting them to sign multi-year agreements to be the only provide of internet service. I just read something about that being a problem here in Kansas City suddenly and new tenants of these apartments are pissed when they are finding out. It's not even being disclosed until the leases are signed.
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While I would love Google Fiber where I am, the fact that they already track everything I do, but then I would be actually funneling all my traffic through them makes me skittish.
 
Shmee said:
While I would love Google Fiber where I am, the fact that they already track everything I do, but then I would be actually funneling all my traffic through them makes me skittish.
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They kinda already watch all yer traffic. But in regards to downloads, get a vpn.
 
SixFootDuo said:
A new dirty tactic these cable companies are using is they are going to the developers of new apartment complexes and getting them to sign multi-year agreements to be the only provide of internet service. I just read something about that being a problem here in Kansas City suddenly and new tenants of these apartments are pissed when they are finding out. It's not even being disclosed until the leases are signed.
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This isn't new. This has been happening for at least 10 years or more.

The same exact thing happens with housing developments.
 
Who cares what anyone tracks. At the end of the day that's just fact. If it helps them make money, who cares. If it help's them stop terrorist attacks, awesome, keep kids safe, even better. So on and so forth.

I am not going to go thru life worrying about if they know where I got gas at in Colorado on vacation. I am not going to worry about if they know I left a bad review on yelp for some Indian buffet I tried out and thought was terrible.

I certainly don't care if they know I like watching Big Wet Titty Porn.

To be fair, I used to have your stance but it's just a fight no one will ever win. Do they track you name and have you on some top 100 list for your area? Doubtful. They are only interested in your general date. It's never anything personal.

Even Snowden himself said they don't track personal data, that they track metadata, etc. searches, etc. Maybe faces and soon, iris scans. At the end of the day, even if you sold dime bag ditch weed, you're going to be safe, 99.9% of us humans are good people.
 
cyclone3d said:
This isn't new. This has been happening for at least 10 years or more.

The same exact thing happens with housing developments.
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News to me but makes perfect sense. I was unaware of this since I am mostly always living in homes. I just read a local story here in KC where it's becoming a problem.

I hope Google gets their LOS high-speed antenna up and running soon.
 
75,000 of the eligible 500,000 state residents will get a check for $2.98. Lawyers on both sides will get millions. Comcast will use their arsenal of lawyers and accountants to find a way to make everything tax-deductible.
 
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"Big Wet Titty Porn" would be a great name for a rock band.

Credit: SixFootDuo
 
I feel deceived by them on a daily basis. However, the quality of my connection is better than advertised, and they're the only half-decent provider in my area. I just don't like their pricing tactics.
 
I get the complaint, SPP is suppose to cover inside wiring - but if the wire was/is fished thru a wall.. Comcast charged for "fishing/custom work".....

The problem for Comcast is 95% of new homes have all the wiring "FISHED" thru the walls. but they STILL sold the Protection plan based on "it cover INSIDE WIRING" when it only cover "SOME" of the indoor wiring.


I agree this is a Industry wide problem, Heck even QWEST offered me a Protection plan for phone wires. but wouldn't FISH them. they would just Drill thru a wall.
 
I believe you on Comcast's deceptive practices, I've never used them; but I can't see the connection with the midrange graphics card market that the linked article talks about.
 
My friend just got a letter in the mail that began with the sentence

“Introducing a Terabyte Internet Experience”

Couldn't help but laugh at Comcast. Ditched them years ago for RCN and never looked back. What a piece of shit company.
 
SixFootDuo said:
My GF and literally moved to KC for Google Fiber. Couldn't be happier. It's a joy and freedom everyone should have.

I know in the future internet will decide where we move. Absolutely.

Here in KC, Comcast / Time Warner or whoever they are these days send us junk mail weekly asking us to come back to their service. It's just a losing battle for them since their pricing and speed does not come close to what Google offers.

A new dirty tactic these cable companies are using is they are going to the developers of new apartment complexes and getting them to sign multi-year agreements to be the only provide of internet service. I just read something about that being a problem here in Kansas City suddenly and new tenants of these apartments are pissed when they are finding out. It's not even being disclosed until the leases are signed.
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Wouldn't hold up in a court of law. The property owner would get in trouble under the Anti-trust, & Rico act which doesn't allow this kind of racketeering. (Price fixing and collusion to limit choice to a private entity)

If this is truly the case, then I'm sure the EFF and ACLU (as much as I hate them) and the FTC would have a word or two to say about this.
 
SixFootDuo said:
Who cares what anyone tracks. At the end of the day that's just fact. If it helps them make money, who cares. If it help's them stop terrorist attacks, awesome, keep kids safe, even better. So on and so forth.

I am not going to go thru life worrying about if they know where I got gas at in Colorado on vacation. I am not going to worry about if they know I left a bad review on yelp for some Indian buffet I tried out and thought was terrible.

I certainly don't care if they know I like watching Big Wet Titty Porn.

To be fair, I used to have your stance but it's just a fight no one will ever win. Do they track you name and have you on some top 100 list for your area? Doubtful. They are only interested in your general date. It's never anything personal.

Even Snowden himself said they don't track personal data, that they track metadata, etc. searches, etc. Maybe faces and soon, iris scans. At the end of the day, even if you sold dime bag ditch weed, you're going to be safe, 99.9% of us humans are good people.
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Someone was murdered about 6 blocks from your house.

Unfortunately for you, you were the only active google device and car in the area. Since you don't have an alibi, and are poor, guess what, you're f'd even if you didn't do it.
 
DigitalGriffin said:
Someone was murdered about 6 blocks from your house.

Unfortunately for you, you were the only active google device and car in the area. Since you don't have an alibi, and are poor, guess what, you're f'd even if you didn't do it.
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Not to mention unauthorized use of the data. The NSA had a huge amount of misuse by employees using their data to spy on significant others or love interests. So much that it actually got a name "LoveInt"...

Then there's the risk of unauthorized external access. Once data exists anywhere, it can be hacked into and exploited, either for identity theft purposes or to better design a fake phishing emails to steal money or information directly from you or your employer. Blackmail could even be a risk. "I don't do anything wrong, I have nothing o worry about". Well, maybe you don't want your employer to know that you've been looking around at other employment opportunities...

Also, there are potential future applications. They sell their data to any number of third parties. So registered kid develops an algorithm that shoes that people who buy product X or visit website y are more likely to be a higher credit risk. You get rejected for your next car loan or mortgage and you don't know why.

Privacy and data mining ARE a huge deal, and those who trivialize this are moving us further and further down the road of complacency until we find up in a real life twilight zone.

The truth is the world is full of companies, banks and individuals looking to maximize how much they can take advantage of you, and big data let's them do this even more effectively.
 
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SixFootDuo said:
Who cares what anyone tracks. At the end of the day that's just fact. If it helps them make money, who cares. If it help's them stop terrorist attacks, awesome, keep kids safe, even better. So on and so forth.

I am not going to go thru life worrying about if they know where I got gas at in Colorado on vacation. I am not going to worry about if they know I left a bad review on yelp for some Indian buffet I tried out and thought was terrible.

I certainly don't care if they know I like watching Big Wet Titty Porn.

To be fair, I used to have your stance but it's just a fight no one will ever win. Do they track you name and have you on some top 100 list for your area? Doubtful. They are only interested in your general date. It's never anything personal.

Even Snowden himself said they don't track personal data, that they track metadata, etc. searches, etc. Maybe faces and soon, iris scans. At the end of the day, even if you sold dime bag ditch weed, you're going to be safe, 99.9% of us humans are good people.
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They don't need your personal data, Metadata is you and with it they can determine who you are, what you eat, when you sleep and whether you prefer hefty blondes, skinny brunettes or big wet breast pron when you fap it.
 
I had a particularly interesting experience with Comcast, Verizon and Frontier here in WA state. I live in a zipcode that Comcast owned while across the street is a zipcode that Verizon owned. (I do not use the word "owned" lightly here.)

Verizon came to our condo complex offering to install their new FIOS service and the complex accepted; Verizon strung new cable throughout all the buildings, and immediately offered us the phone and Internet part of their packages, but the TV part of their offerings wasn't available yet, because they needed to negotiate the TV license for that city, even though they had the license for our entire county/region. This regional licensing part is hazy to me, being bits and pieces that I got from tech guys and threads on dslreports forums. The "negotiations" dragged on for several years. Scuttlebutt had it that Comcast was paying off the city to not issue TV licenses to Verizon.

Then Verizon suddenly left the West Coast ("too rural") and sold all their stuff to Frontier. After awhile, Frontier offered us TV service! So we took it, said goodbye to Comcast. When I asked the tech guys if Frontier had finally gotten the license from the city, they said "well, we have the license for the region so we're just going forward with the installs here". I wondered at the time if the city would just let them do that, and in conversations with tech guys later on, apparently they didn't let them do it for very long and Frontier had to stop new installs in our zipcode and we were one of the lucky few in this zipcode with Frontier.
 
evilsofa said:
I had a particularly interesting experience with Comcast, Verizon and Frontier here in WA state. I live in a zipcode that Comcast owned while across the street is a zipcode that Verizon owned. (I do not use the word "owned" lightly here.)

Verizon came to our condo complex offering to install their new FIOS service and the complex accepted; Verizon strung new cable throughout all the buildings, and immediately offered us the phone and Internet part of their packages, but the TV part of their offerings wasn't available yet, because they needed to negotiate the TV license for that city, even though they had the license for our entire county/region. This regional licensing part is hazy to me, being bits and pieces that I got from tech guys and threads on dslreports forums. The "negotiations" dragged on for several years. Scuttlebutt had it that Comcast was paying off the city to not issue TV licenses to Verizon.

Then Verizon suddenly left the West Coast ("too rural") and sold all their stuff to Frontier. After awhile, Frontier offered us TV service! So we took it, said goodbye to Comcast. When I asked the tech guys if Frontier had finally gotten the license from the city, they said "well, we have the license for the region so we're just going forward with the installs here". I wondered at the time if the city would just let them do that, and in conversations with tech guys later on, apparently they didn't let them do it for very long and Frontier had to stop new installs in our zipcode and we were one of the lucky few in this zipcode with Frontier.
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That is corruption, plain and simple.

I'd like to see state and federal suits put an end to local monopolies like this once and for all. it's criminal.
 
SixFootDuo said:
new dirty tactic these cable companies are using is they are going to the developers of new apartment complexes and getting them to sign multi-year agreements to be the only provide of internet service. I just read something about that being a problem here in Kansas City suddenly and new tenants of these apartments are pissed when they are finding out. It's not even being disclosed until the leases are signed.
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This is exactly what happened in my loft building. For over a year, the residents were told GF was coming. We were sent periodic updates, pricing plans, early sign-up offers, only to finally be told Comcast had an exclusive agreement to provide fiber service to us. Every time I check with Comcast, I'm told we won't get their fiber.

It's enraging. :rage::rage::rage:
 
1.8 million individual accounts x 2K per violation = 3.6 billion + 74 million... = 3.674 billion...
 
Wyodiver said:
75,000 of the eligible 500,000 state residents will get a check for $2.98. Lawyers on both sides will get millions. Comcast will use their arsenal of lawyers and accountants to find a way to make everything tax-deductible.
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no one will get anything, they'll do what they did last time this was brought up and threaten to move their data center hubs out of Seattle and Spokane, Washington to Oregon and the state will bend at the knee and nothing will happen. the state has willingly allowed comcast to have a 80% monopoly in the state for a reason and that's because they make millions in state taxes off comcast every year.
 
Being in Detroit I am stuck with Comcast or Uverse for internet. The highest speed I can get from Uverse is 6 Mbps DSL. With Comcast I get their 105/20 extreme and I get 125/25. To be honest Copmcast has been pretty good in my area. The only times I lose internet is if some Ahole hits a pole or maintenance. ATT can kiss my ass since they screwed us over a long time ago. I even dropped Directv because ATT bought them out.
 
SixFootDuo said:
My GF and literally moved to KC for Google Fiber. Couldn't be happier. It's a joy and freedom everyone should have.

I know in the future internet will decide where we move. Absolutely.

Here in KC, Comcast / Time Warner or whoever they are these days send us junk mail weekly asking us to come back to their service. It's just a losing battle for them since their pricing and speed does not come close to what Google offers.

A new dirty tactic these cable companies are using is they are going to the developers of new apartment complexes and getting them to sign multi-year agreements to be the only provide of internet service. I just read something about that being a problem here in Kansas City suddenly and new tenants of these apartments are pissed when they are finding out. It's not even being disclosed until the leases are signed.
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That is something the tenant is responsible for asking before they sign the lease.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
no one will get anything, they'll do what they did last time this was brought up and threaten to move their data center hubs out of Seattle and Spokane, Washington to Oregon and the state will bend at the knee and nothing will happen. the state has willingly allowed comcast to have a 80% monopoly in the state for a reason and that's because they make millions in state taxes off comcast every year.
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Except before companies like Google weren't around to snap up all the clientele and pay those same taxes, if not more plus local community donations and such. Ontop of better newer networks so that the huge digital companies there have much better service to get work done faster and cheaper :p
 
Vercinaigh said:
Except before companies like Google weren't around to snap up all the clientele and pay those same taxes, if not more plus local community donations and such. Ontop of better newer networks so that the huge digital companies there have much better service to get work done faster and cheaper :p
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i wish, sadly google fiber will never come out to my area because this city is to damn old and laid out like a 2 year old playing with lego's making it far to expensive to lay fiber and charter will never try to compete with comcast. even though charter's customer service is complete garbage they'd most likely push comcast out of this area if they tried to compete with them..
 
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sirmonkey1985 said:
i wish, sadly google fiber will never come out to my area because this city is to damn old and laid out like a 2 year old playing with lego's making it far to expensive to lay fiber and charter will never try to compete with comcast. even though charter's customer service is complete garbage they'd most likely push comcast out of this area if they tried to compete with them..
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If they won't someone will. Plenty of money to be made in proper fiber networks, at every level. Given the go ahead to do so is all people really need, as proven repeatedly.
 
I love how they say it's not a monopoly but in my area I have no other alternative to Comcast. I hate them above all other utility provider but lets face it, the internet is somewhat of a necessity in todays age.
 
SixFootDuo said:
Even Snowden himself said they don't track personal data, that they track metadata, etc. searches, etc. Maybe faces and soon, iris scans. At the end of the day, even if you sold dime bag ditch weed, you're going to be safe, 99.9% of us humans are good people.
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Edward Snowden would only be able to comment on what he did or what his office did. Didn't he say that there were many more subcontractors doing the work he did ?
If anything Snowden commented on the vast amount of data that is rather questionable regarding USA not spying on their own citizens, the idea was and is that Snowden did not like this and how far it went from his own personal experience, does not mean that others did or do not go further (I'm not scaremongering here, just saying that expecting the worse case is a far better scenario (from the people that do not spy on their own citizens)).
 
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