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I understand my current rig is still pretty viable however it's been about 2.5 going on 3 years on my current CPU/RAM/MOBO. I'd like to modernize my system to get the latest features and I'm really wanting an 8 core system. More and more games are taking advantage of the extra cores plus I'm kind of getting bored of my system and want something NEW with some fancy RGB lighting LOL. I just upgraded to some Corsair ML120 Red LED fans for my top quad radiator and back exhaust. I want to convert over to a red themed setup and getting a new MOBO/RAM/CPU combo with LEDs would really tickle my fancy!
oh ok don't know yet about any AM4 boards just have to wait and see, but pretty sure Asus, MSI, all the major guys will have em.
Asus typically does, but MSI and Gigabyte mess it up somehow by either using a realtek or killer or making one 100m.
To save money (one 10Gb and one 1Gb chip would be less expensive than two 10Gb chips, and possibly less than a single 10Gb duplex chip) or reduce complexity (and thus, cost of development).Yes, I don't understand why they do this. I have an MSI x99 and it has one Intel LAN, and one realtek LAN. Why do they put two different LAN ports on them?
There is zero reason to develop a consumer board with 10gE, if you absolutely want it then most the workstation boards have decent options. Honestly I'd rather add that feature unless I was running a server board.To save money (one 10Gb and one 1Gb chip would be less expensive than two 10Gb chips, and possibly less than a single 10Gb duplex chip) or reduce complexity (and thus, cost of development).
Because of royalties and possible over stock of chips. It's easy to advertise a product over another competitor even if the integration sucks.Yes, I don't understand why they do this. I have an MSI x99 and it has one Intel LAN, and one realtek LAN. Why do they put two different LAN ports on them?
That's cool, I was just trying to answer his question...wasn't saying anything about why having it is necessary or not.There is zero reason to develop a consumer board with 10gE, if you absolutely want it then most the workstation boards have decent options. Honestly I'd rather add that feature unless I was running a server board.
That's cool, I was just trying to answer his question...wasn't saying anything about why having it is necessary or not.
That said, if you have gigabit fiber, NAS with SSDs, and one of those $300 routers that can keep up, a single 1Gb port may choke where a 10Gb port wouldn't. Though, you'd have to be streaming or copying something large over the net and from your NAS at the same time to do it. I don't know of a home usecase for dual 10Gb.
if you want to overclock any amount ya gotta get B or X level motherboards. Sounds like a B level is what you are looking for, for the time being just have to wait and see what the motherboards are capable of, since there are no reviews yet
I don't see the X370 as a long term SLI/CFX or multi gpu solution -> 8x/8x PCIe 3 will eventually show limitations. Already with 2x TitanX that has been shown (can't find the link at the moment). Faster GPU's in the future will need more bandwidth. Now I do believe one GPU for the next 3-5 years will not be limited by 16X PCIe 3. So for current generation and upcoming AMD generation, multi-GPU should be fine with X370 is my thoughts. Plus if you don't use top end cards that would probably extend to the following generation as well.X370 supports SLI/CrossFire while B350 doesn't.
I definitely won't be ordering Day 1 since I want to see how reliable these motherboards are.
Also in the past some board makers had some sort of doubling thing going on with the phases to make things look better than what they really were. Some boards that looked like they had 8 phase were really 4 with some doubling BS. They didn't perform like other boards that really had 8 true phases.
Still nothing out of corsair on cooler compatibilty re: h115i
Thanks, that's good to know. I was surprised to see AsRock suddenly getting so much better while Asus/MSI offer less phases for a similar price on the low end. We'll see when the products come out, but right now I'm waiting to decide between ASROCK A320M PRO4, MSI A320M PRO-VD and Asus Prime B350M-A. I only consider mATX boards, so it's a more limited landscape options-wise.
Is Microcenters employees really that uninformed about the products that they sell? (Or do some just not care?) I call one to see what they can tell me about the Ryzen release, whether they are going to have any on March 2nd or at the very least, when online purchases for in store pickup might be available. Now, with the NDA, I figured he could not tell me much but, he says they are not told anything and will not know until the day of the release itself.
The person then went on to claim in could be 2 weeks before they get anything. I asked him when the release date of the 7700k was and when they started selling it. I had to push him along to just look that information up and he really did not seem like he wanted to be bothered. I even asked him if they start selling stuff at the same time as Amazon and Newegg and he could not even be bothered to research that.
Maybe they have a Business desk like the old CompUSA that actually know what they are talking about? Yes, I know the NDA but dam, it was almost worse than pulling teeth with this guy.
Yes. No information on it. Supposed to be an announcement but so far nothing.I imagine it would because I have already purchased my Noctua AM4 bracket and I am receiving it today. Have you tried calling them?
Thanks, that's good to know. I was surprised to see AsRock suddenly getting so much better while Asus/MSI offer less phases for a similar price on the low end. We'll see when the products come out, but right now I'm waiting to decide between ASROCK A320M PRO4, MSI A320M PRO-VD and Asus Prime B350M-A. I only consider mATX boards, so it's a more limited landscape options-wise.
ASRock hasn't gotten any better, they still use low end components and double their phases to make the marketing sound better than it is. I'm not saying they have bad boards, I've used lots of them with good success. But they've always been big on doubling so they can put a big number on the box, but in reality a Gigabyte or Asus board with less phases can still deliver more power at a higher temp.
Well, I now have my NM-AM4 mounting kit sitting here on my work desk. Come on AMD, get this stuff released already!
The ASRock B350 boards seem to have the most power phases with 9+2, vs the competition that ranges from 5-7... The ASUS B350-Plus is supposedly only $89, but the battery placement is kind of wonky.
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Only two boards that I've seen have 8 pin + 4 pin power connectors for extra cpu power. One Asus and one MSI. Those may make a difference for really pushing the limits of the 8 core cpus.
Also in the past some board makers had some sort of doubling thing going on with the phases to make things look better than what they really were. Some boards that looked like they had 8 phase were really 4 with some doubling BS. They didn't perform like other boards that really had 8 true phases.
We'll need to wait for reviews and personal experience to see what really works and what doesn't.
Only Biostar has a z370 ITX board so far. z300 SFF boards are probably gonna take awhile to come out.Is there a good mini ITX motherboard out for Ryzen ?
I personally never had an issues with the last ASRock board I had other than vdroop, the name brand equivalents at the time suffered from it as well, it was an 880G.ASRock hasn't gotten any better, they still use low end components and double their phases to make the marketing sound better than it is. I'm not saying they have bad boards, I've used lots of them with good success. But they've always been big on doubling so they can put a big number on the box, but in reality a Gigabyte or Asus board with less phases can still deliver more power at a higher temp.
I'm kind of curious what the B350-Prime is like for the money, I mean if it dies not a big deal, pair it with a 1600X and viola.Yeah, but now you have me thinking about this board and a 1700 for my personal work computer.
I agree, especially when you need to draw large power chunks. Intel CPUs have low power requirements so you saw makers like MSI dump a bunch of cheap MB's out with great OC potential.Iirc, most motherboard manufacturers since z97 (x99 being one of the exceptions), have been using cheaper vrms. The quality of the phases matters more than the quantity.