Budget AMD CPU?

[Moparzrule]

AMD is still selling CPUs that use ddr4.... Why would they just up and stop selling am5 CPUs because you "could" get a new ddr6 platform

If that's what meant by ''AM5 Support'', that's not what the context of the post was about. The context is new CPU's still being able to use the same board.

 

[Moparzrule]

Uh huh. And CPUs can support multiple generations of DDR.

I'll see myself out, as the point is made.

Yeah, and it won't matter if it's a different socket, which is what my point is.

 

[arestavo]

Yeah, and it won't matter if it's a different socket, which is what my point is.

Uh huh.

 

[Tsumi]

The memory controller is in the CPU, not the motherboard. No current CPU can support DDR6 because DDR6 spec hasn't even been released yet. While it's *possible* that AMD could release another CPU that has DDR5 and 6 support, but I highly doubt it. When DDR6 comes out, you'll need a new board, CPU, and ram to run it. It's extremely unlikely that AMD will do that while still being on socket AM5, I believe it's way more likely they'll make a socket AM6 to coincide with DDR''6''.

And I have shown by my timeline that AMD would have to be on top of the DDR6 release when AMD has generally lagged supporting the new DDR standard by 1-2 years.

You absolutely can argue that it would make sense for the new architecture to be on DD5 to focus on architectural changes while the refresh after that will be DDR6, focusing on improving the I/O die. It can go either way and only those in the know at AMD can say for sure.

 

[travm]

If that's what meant by ''AM5 Support'', that's not what the context of the post was about. The context is new CPU's still being able to use the same board.

So they'll just stop making new CPUs for am5 cause?....
Just like am4, new am4 CPUs were launched after am5.

That's exactly what the context of the post was about.

 

[zandor]

So they'll just stop making new CPUs for am5 cause?....
Just like am4, new am4 CPUs were launched after am5.

That's exactly what the context of the post was about.

Yes, but none of the most AM5 AM4 cpus were better than what came before AM5 launched. The last faster than something older launch on AM4 was the 5800X3D, which was several months before AM5. AM4 Ryzen 9 hasn't gotten an upgrade since 2020. AM4 is still around and they've launched new models far more recently than the 5800X3D, but it's a budget platform now. The ongoing support is useful if you have a lower end chip and want an upgrade, but if you have a Ryzen 9 or 5800X3D there is no upgrade path other than switching between productivity (Ryzen 9 12 or 16 core) and gaming (5700X3D).

 

[travm]

Yes, but none of the most AM5 AM4 cpus were better than what came before AM5 launched. The last faster than something older launch on AM4 was the 5800X3D, which was several months before AM5. AM4 Ryzen 9 hasn't gotten an upgrade since 2020. AM4 is still around and they've launched new models far more recently than the 5800X3D, but it's a budget platform now. The ongoing support is useful if you have a lower end chip and want an upgrade, but if you have a Ryzen 9 or 5800X3D there is no upgrade path other than switching between productivity (Ryzen 9 12 or 16 core) and gaming (5700X3D).

So this is exactly what supported through 2027 means. It should be expected that am5 transitions to budget platform after am6 launches. Doesn't mean you still can't buy new upgraded chips. If you're on the bleeding edge you need to upgrade every 8 months anyway, you should know this.

But if you buy a 7600 today, you can upgrade to a 10900x3d in a few years, even after am6 launches.

 

[bobzdar]

I think we'll get at least one more gen on AM5 before AM6, possibly 2. AM4 was zen1, zen1+, zen 2, zen 3. So far we have zen 4 and zen 5 on AM5. We'll get a zen 6 on it, with zen 7 likely on AM6. Given sales trends, my thought is that at some point all ryzen 7 and 9 chips will get v-cache (maybe that's a 6+?). CPU's are not bandwidth starved currently, like at all. Only thing that could move things up is proliferation of on-die graphics, which is a real possibility. AMD can't really go for more CU's on package without running into large bandwidth constraints even though they could easily put more on there (see PS/Xbox).

 

[TordanGow]

So this is exactly what supported through 2027 means. It should be expected that am5 transitions to budget platform after am6 launches. Doesn't mean you still can't buy new upgraded chips. If you're on the bleeding edge you need to upgrade every 8 months anyway, you should know this.

But if you buy a 7600 today, you can upgrade to a 10900x3d in a few years, even after am6 launches.

That was my line of thought. I sold off my I7-7700k / board / ram and went with this.

Improved performance today and all the newest connectivity options. Pcie5 for gpu and an NVME for later. The board has pretty solid power delivery so in 3-4 years I can drop in whatever the best chip is for the platform at end of AM5 cycle and get another 5+ years out of it.

All in after selling existing parts it's about a $270 upgrade.

A 7600x / x870 / 32g ddr5 / 1 tb nvme for just under $420.